PaulLaurie Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 Saturdays looking promising so far crossed fingers etc.
snowey Posted February 6, 2009 Report Posted February 6, 2009 I hope the beach is still there! First free weekend with wind for ages..... Hope to be there fairly early. Anyone else?
carltb Posted February 6, 2009 Report Posted February 6, 2009 be good to see you pete. ill probably be there about 11ish
Dragon Danny Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 Hi lads, To fly at Ainsdale will BKSA Insurance gain me the ability to join AOSPKC? As I will be local to your beach 2 weekends of the month every month throughout summer, and would like to come down for a fly on the Sat and Sun?
big-jon Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 You dont need to join a club to use the beach, although of course if you wanted to join AOSPKC you could, but I dont think you can with BKSA To use the beach you need a permit, which you can get from the Ranger office at the back of the beach (turn left down a side road, just after Pontins and before the beach). Any insurance will do as long as it is for £5 mill. Come down and join in the fun, just watch out for those blowkarts!
Dragon Danny Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 Oh I see! Awesome, yeah its 5 Million mate. before I come down for the first time I will post on here and will make sure I get a Permit, then jump into the water! Will be a month or 2 yet, as my contract doesn't start until April, plus its too cold for me in the water at the moment (confessed wimp in the cold) Cheers for the reply.
tigertim Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 Hello Ainsdalers, Just incase this hasn't been communicated, it will be the 1st round of the PKA National Series (kite buggy racing) on Sat 7th and Sun 8th March. This will be in the kitezone, not the other end due to birds. I understand Sefton Council have asked that no other land based kiters use the Kitezone this weekend - sorry thems the breaks . I think it means its fine to kitesurf and set up outside of the zone as usual but you may need to check this with Sefton. Sorry if this is a hassle - just one weekend. Cheers, Tim
CeeJay Posted February 18, 2009 Report Posted February 18, 2009 Low tides and good winds this weekend, if the Dales off wheres everyone going for a land sesh?
garykf Posted February 18, 2009 Report Posted February 18, 2009 Have Sefton given any indication that it will be ok to setup kitesurfing outside the usual zone. Going to be a lot of pee'd of people if not......been ages since we've seen a buggy down at ainsdale:eek:
carltb Posted February 18, 2009 Report Posted February 18, 2009 will the course be the entire length of the beach? if not, setting it up abit south of the zone would work for everybody. the zone just left of the barrier is the set up and launch zone anyway.
CeeJay Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 Right, I switched from BPKA to BKSA insurance this year. I sorted it out online and got an email with my new insurance details. Can I get my new permit with this email or do I have to wait for the documents to come through the post?
CeeJay Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 Forget that last question, i gave Gill a ring. Seems the email is fine. Its going in an envelope tonight
carltb Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 nice 1 cj itll be good to see a new face at the dale.
tigertim Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 Have Sefton given any indication that it will be ok to setup kitesurfing outside the usual zone. Going to be a lot of pee'd of people if not......been ages since we've seen a buggy down at ainsdale:eek: From what I understand the set-up area is supposed to be just to the right of the zone anyway... so can't see it being a problem. I'm sure it will all work itself out on the day.
tigertim Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 will the course be the entire length of the beach? if not, setting it up abit south of the zone would work for everybody. the zone just left of the barrier is the set up and launch zone anyway. Carl - I think the wind and the beach condition on the day will dicate the course. From what I understand the zone is closed for all land-based activity except racing for this weekend. They'll have to just sort it out on the day.
carltb Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 no probs ill just have to get wet!!!!!!!!! (i also kiteboard)
CeeJay Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 nice 1 cj itll be good to see a new face at the dale. Or not hahahaha Ive been down there many a time I;ve got a black/red/white frenzy, yellow/black phanny and most recently a couple of Ion2's and a blue CKB And i normally chat to you too
efff Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 right ive got my insurence now just need a permit then you will have somebody else to avoid, can i send off for a permit or do ihave to go get one in person, sorry if its been sked before
carltb Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 JAN 09 KITE ZONE, AINSDALE-ON-SEA – RULES These rules have been developed in consultation with Kite Zone users to ensure the health, safety and well being of all beach users. 1. Observe and adhere to all national sporting body (BPKA, BKSA, BFSLYC, BLSA) codes of conduct and guidelines as well as local regulations, club rules, local advice, Sefton Council byelaws and CAA restrictions. 2. You must have a valid permit from Sefton Council. You must be able to produce your permit for inspection at any time. It is your responsibility to maintain a valid permit and to comply with these rules. 3. In order to acquire a permit, you must: i) produce valid insurance (minimum of £5million cover required) ii) sign an indemnity form iii) sign to confirm receiving the rules and zone maps (Summer and Winter) 4. Stay within the agreed zone at all times. Use of any other part of the Sefton foreshore, either in the ownership of Sefton Council or of any other agency is not permitted and could render your insurance invalid. 5. Trading, teaching or touting for trade at, or in relation to, Ainsdale beach is not permitted, other than by the Council’s authorised licencees. (Legal action may be taken.) 6. Park only within the beach parking area. 7. Rig up / down only in the rigging area and keep clear of the rigging area if it is in use for set up or pack down. 8. No persons under the age of 16 to use Kite Zone without a responsible adult in attendance. Permits will only be issued to under 16’s via a responsible adult. 9. When the tide is 100m or less from the beach parking area, all power kite activity must stop until the tide has come in and then receded to at least 100m from the beach parking area. 10. Kite Zone may be closed due to other events taking place or to very hot weather or because of large numbers of other beach users, and is not set aside for exclusive use by kiters. 11. All Kite Zone users must take note of public access, fishermen’s access, horse riding and other activities and must operate at a reasonable speed and give way to all other beach users at all times. Do not overfly any pedestrians or animals with your kite. 12. Do not use captive harness systems unless supported by a quick release system 13. Do not use Kevlar lines 14. Do not enter or overfly the Power Kite School Zone if it is in use. 15. Always look before you gybe / tack – The upwind/downwind rule is always in operation. The upwind user keeps their kite high and the downwind user keeps their kite low. 16. If a head on collision is imminent, both users must turn right. 17. All users of all disciplines must assess the risks and hazards prior to each launch. Consider wind speed and direction, weather conditions and therefore appropriateness of kite size / rig. All hardware and equipment should be inspected for damage regularly; the user must have a continuous awareness of the tides; obstacles; other beach users and their own level of skill. All users must assess the risk on very busy days during the summer and not fly if the beach has a high level of other beach users in Kite Zone. Inexperienced users should always exercise extreme caution. JAN 09 18. Any users of Kite Zone, who intentionally cause nuisance, bring the use of the beach into disrepute, or drive at excessive speed on the beach may have their permits rescinded. 19. Sand stakes must be made highly visible when in use and removed when not in use. 20. Never set up, leave or launch a kite in the parking area or in the area in front of the winter beach parking area. All parked or unused kites should be packed or disabled. 21. No Jumping of landboards within the vicinity of other beach or Kite Zone users. 22. Have an emergency plan for yourself and others. E.g. contact the Coastguard 999. 23. These rules may be amended from time to time. 24. DRY Kite Zone • Aerial buggy freestyle may only be undertaken by holders of a special J-Permit (same rules as above apply). A competency test must be successfully undertaken in the presence of a qualified buggy instructor and written evidence produced to certify that levels of knowledge, ability, skill and competency are satisfactory. • Buggy to kite tethering is not permitted. • The use of kite killers is recommended for beginners. • Kite Zone users must not enter or overfly the safe pedestrian zone of 40 (forty) metres from the base of the sand dunes, which is identified by a post or sign marker at each barrier. • Protective headgear must be worn for all wheeled activities. Other appropriate personal protective equipment is recommended. 25. WET Kite Zone • Protective headgear and other appropriate personal protective equipment is recommended for kite surfing. • The use of kite leashes is compulsory. A disciplinary system is in place and breaches of these rules may result in the your permit being rescinded. These rules are underpinned by Sefton Council’s Seashore Byelaws And have been agreed by the Kite Zone User Panel. I have received and understand the above rules and the Kite Zone maps (summer and winter versions): Print Name: Date: Permit Holder Signature: Permit No: KZ
carltb Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 all kiteboarders, have a look at rule 25.!!!!!!!l
PaulLaurie Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 Hi all, Think I might take a trip down to watch the buggy & blo-kart racing, it should be cool assuming the wind plays ball. Just out of interest who is on the Kite Zone User Panel? Thanks, Paul
big-jon Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 Paul, the Kite Zone User Panel is made up of reps from the clubs on the beach and the interested parties, so you have a rep from the Blokarts, a rep from the Kitesurfers, Chris from the shop/training, myself from the Fed club/WSYC and Matt used to come along from AOSPKC. At the last meeting Gordon did wish to invite someone from the AOSPKC but he was unsure as to who to invite. I know he is wanting to get a rep from the club for the next meeting so if you can give me any contact details I will pass them on or you could send them to Gordon yourself. I know that at the last meeting that Matt went to the rules/regs were discussed in detail and they have not changed that much since that meeting and the new publication of them. If anyone has anything to say at these meetings they can have an input, I am not sure what the Kitesurfers feel about rule 25, but to be honest I did not really notice it that much although thinking about it I can see that it may be slightly contentious!? Hope that helps Paul? Come down and see the racing, its always fun, the Blokarts are great, they go fast and look cool when they go up on 2 wheels and dart about!
SandMonster Posted February 20, 2009 Author Report Posted February 20, 2009 and Matt used to come along from AOSPKC. At the last meeting Gordon did wish to invite someone from the AOSPKC but he was unsure as to who to invite. I know he is wanting to get a rep from the club for the next meeting so if you can give me any contact details I will pass them on or you could send them to Gordon yourself. When Matt resigned, Gordon and Dave Mac were given my e-mail & phone no as a replacement contact - I also attended some of the prior meetings with Matt - dunno why they didn't bother to get in touch...???
big-jon Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 Mike, I said at the last meeting that I thought you were taking over things at AOS, and Gordon did say that he would want you along, I will pass on your message and make sure you are told of the next meeting.
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