SandMonster Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 some bedtime reading there Should rule 24 be amended to refer to 'persons', or 'permit holders' rather than club members?
SandMonster Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 I can confirm it will be raining and there will be no wind on friday afternoon as I'm having a birthday BBQ organised for me:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
JohnDave Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 All looks familiar / sensible / workable to me Matt. 13. Follow all environmental codes and place litter in the bins provided. I know we are not all brilliant at this one. We were saying at the weekend that a bin at the sea end of the barrier would be good, where everyone parks. I don't know if there's a spare one that can be put there and emptied with all the others when the Rangers do their rounds?
carl999 Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 The rules are in need of a full review in my honest opinion, especially to fall into line with some of our future policy docs & taking into account how equipment is changing so rapidly, hopefully the licencee will assist in this matter and possibly set up a 6 monthly review with all 3 three clubs. Carl.
Bobby Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 ...Cobs is going to have to buck it's ideas up... It's the school disco - you spot Janet Erickson you've always adored - you wait and wait till at last at 9pm the slowies come on - you make your move. Patience Grasshopper patience.
snowey Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 Question. Will existing T numbers still be valid or do all beach users now need a new permit? Existing permits are valid as dated Thanks for asking for clarification 5. The permit holder is issued a KZ number from The Council This number is to be used as a beach registration number. The KZ number must be displayed at all times.
big-jon Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 All current permits and numbers will be used until they are replaced - I checked this yesterday. Thanks for keeping me on the ball Pete!
Match Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 It's the school disco - you spot Janet Erickson you've always adored - you wait and wait till at last at 9pm the slowies come on - you make your move. Patience Grasshopper patience. Its the school reunioun - Janet Erickson is now an absolute beast. You now realise Tommy Tucker did you a favour by getting in first that night at the scholl disco. You could never handle the 14 kids they have together or her 52 inch waist. Patience will see you right.
JohnDave Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 It's the school disco - you spot Janet Erickson you've always adored - you wait and wait till at last at 9pm the slowies come on - you make your move. Patience Grasshopper patience. You spot Janet Erickson and hang around the back of the disco drinking cider all night till you're so drunk you dare do anything. At 9pm the slowies come on and you lunge into her only to get slapped in the face and be left with a sore head and a dented pride. I like a sure thing.
Hathba Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 I assume all this happened at the meeting in June? Was there a club email about it from Wendy? If so, i didnt get it. I am totally shocked to be honest and reading about it here was not my ideal way of finding out but anyway is bad if the news is bad. 1st - a big thanks to Big Jon and the team for making it what it was/is. I have seen you take some 5h1t for making an effort to get something going and am grateful you all persevered. 2nd - Why? Why has this happened? I always thought TASKC were the voice of the kiters on the beach and know little of AOSPKC to be honest, no disrespect guys. So why has this come about? This is a sad day as far as i am concerned. Tim aka Silver Mercury Guy thanks to Bobby
Hathba Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 All looks familiar / sensible / workable to me Matt. 13. Follow all environmental codes and place litter in the bins provided. I know we are not all brilliant at this one. We were saying at the weekend that a bin at the sea end of the barrier would be good, where everyone parks. I don't know if there's a spare one that can be put there and emptied with all the others when the Rangers do their rounds? I take a bin to the beach with me, it is called my car. I have never witnessed a kiting person leaving litter on the beach, it is the bloody scumbags that unfortunately are also allowed on OUR beach. you know the kind? 'as soon as this enormous bag of maccy D boxes leaves my hand it is invisible, therefore i dont have to bin it' - SCUMBAGS!!! you may have seen them stuck in the sand at some point in their Fiesta GTI F(*KOFF TURBO BA5T4RD with rorty zorsts!! Sorry, i feel strongly about littering, i live in Wigan after all
PsychoCabDriver Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 sorry to be a bit dumb but what implications do all these changes have on water use? Who do I need to join whatever to use the water at ainsdale? New to the water soon so need a little clarification on that part. Cheers PCD
Bobby Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 Chris, rules are different for water use; Join the BKSA - cost £30 You used to be able to join the BKSA as an associate member with having BBC insurance - thats changing and I think you now have only 1 option to join as a full member. BKSA PO Box 7871 East Leake Leicestershire LE12 6WL Tel: 01509 856500 - membership enquiries are Wednesday afternoons only Email: Info@kitesurfing.org Web: www.kitesurfing.org Join the Ainsdale Kitesurf club - cost £5 When you join the BKSA on their website you have the option of joining the Ainsdale club. Buy an Ainsdale Kitesurf rash vest - cost £20 Once joined via the BKSA, approach the Ainsdale club for a rash vest - Contact Andy at the club on aworm@supanet.com or PM him on here at aworm ______________________________ I know I keep banging on about these rubber suits but I just love mine and just want you up and coming flounders to feel the love also and maybe grab a bargain. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330012099198&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:UK:1 A 3/2 L for a big bonny waterbaby - QuikSilver dude get thee in there .
garykf Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 PCD: you need to join the kiteclub and purchase a rash vest, cost £20. Then you need to join the BKSA and take out insurance with them, cost £30. Not sure if they are currently accepting BBC insurance but drop Andy (Aworm) a PM and he will fill you in all thats needed. see you on the water:) (big scary kite for a first timer though:eek: )
carl999 Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 sorry to be a bit dumb but what implications do all these changes have on water use? Who do I need to join whatever to use the water at ainsdale? New to the water soon so need a little clarification on that part. Cheers PCD Aworm usually deals with these answers but he is on holiday at the mo, I will ask Chris to seek some form of official statement from Sefton Coast & Countryside. Aworm has been seeking clarification for some time, I believe things will all be sorted when the licencee is in place, the sooner this happens the easier things will become, especially gaining your permits land or water. The changes are all probably to do with insurance & the issues surrounding club events insurance, each club on the beach has its own events insurance but its members must use a particular insurance. AOSPKC = BPKA (bbc) PKSF £15 AOSKSC = BKSA (no longer PKSF) £35 TASKC = Fed £28 (class 7 & 8 only i.e land) This leaves the users of Ainsdale with a fair choice of what insurance to purchase in my view and it also means all angles are covered Hope this answers a few important issues & hopefully all 3 clubs can help support each other during all events at Ainsdale!! Carl.
PaulLaurie Posted July 27, 2006 Author Report Posted July 27, 2006 I assume all this happened at the meeting in June? Was there a club email about it from Wendy? If so, i didnt get it. I am totally shocked to be honest and reading about it here was not my ideal way of finding out but anyway is bad if the news is bad. I was at the meeting in June and it wasn't decided then. What may have been a factor, although I don't know, is that noone apart from a few regulars turned up at the meeting and hence TASKC may have felt under supported and the effort they where making was not appreciated. I don't think the news is bad as such, just a change in procedure that will work out in the wash I'm sure.
PsychoCabDriver Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 thanks for the prompt answers ppl PCD
carl999 Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 You can no longer join the BKSA as an associate member i.e using your BBC/BPKA PKSF insurance, the rash vest are out of stock & the kite surfers are looking at a much cheaper option which could be something like a luggage tag, Aworm will let you know as & when things are sorted. This could leave a large amount of people having to purchase two types of insurance which is not the right way to go as I am sure many of you will agree BKSA / BPKA, both of these insurances cover all aspects of power kite sports. I Personally now have 3 people in my family who want to use the land & water at Ainsdale, the costs could be very heavy and more importantly discourage people from purchasing insurance. Clare received an e-mail from Mr McAleavy yesterday which could clarify a few things. I will ask Clare to post its contents later. Carl.
Match Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 I always thought TASKC were the voice of the kiters on the beach and know little of AOSPKC to be honest, no disrespect guys. So why has this come about? Find out more about us at www.aospkc.org.uk
WENPET Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 I assume all this happened at the meeting in June? Was there a club email about it from Wendy? If so, i didnt get it. I am totally shocked to be honest and reading about it here was not my ideal way of finding out but anyway is bad if the news is bad. You should now have an e-mail from Wendy and I about the events leading to this. This e-mail was not sent earlier as we were told not to make a statement yet, we were also told that any statement would be decided by the committee (never happened) so Wendy and I put the e-mail together. I think the beach has come along way in the last 2 years, lets reflect on what has been achieved and how far we have come. 2 years ago we had a retailer that did not come on the beach. Now we have a ghost retailer that no one can talk about (do they exist?) 2 years ago we had a permit system that all you had to do was show your insurance at the rangers office. Now ……. Exactly the same. 2 years ago it was decided that there would be one official club on the beach. Now you don’t even have to be a member of a club. 2 years ago SCC said they would put up signage. Now not much sign of the signs and it will take another god knows how long to get them as someone in there infinite wisdom has change the name to KITE ZONE. Just a point TASKC is still called The Ainsdale-on-Sea KITEBEACH Club (as to change the name would take a meeting of at least 20% of members as in the constitution). The beach is now exactly where it was 2 years ago, the difference now is that the SCC are willing to work with AOSPKC and this means thing may now improve as in my opinion if the main people of both TASKC and AOSPKC had worked together in an organised fashion thing would have been improved more. There has been a lot of good work done in AOSPKC with there documentation and I know Matt and Carl have worked hard to get where they are, in my honest opinion they were the missing pieces of the puzzle as far as TASKC was concerned. Wendy and I wish all users of Ainsdale and especially those that take up the task of trying to get thing organised all the best and we really hope things work out for all.
kitebiatch Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 lovely day out there today, not too much in the way of wind, lost my keys:mad: ,(thanks to those who kept an eye out),thankfully clare got my spare key to me...just in time for me to find the original set:o ...i hope sundays promised wind comes right.......wurzel
WENPET Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 I am just wondering what happens when SCC decide that you have to be a member of a club again? With TASKC only having FED insurance and AOSPKC only having BBC/PKSF what happens to the rest? And who is going to take on the static and sports kite flyers?
Chris k333 Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 Will i still be able to use my K333 number? as i never used T333 because im too lazy to make more numbers... KZ is silly >. John ill get my dad to talk to you so i can get lectured for 5 hrs on what i have to do.. since i lost your msn again... >.
Bobby Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 Cool dude day . Not a lot of wind but enough for the red one to give me some long cool runs along that shore edge and some not so cool wipeouts as the big guy switched on the power and showed me who's really in control. Thought John's baby was pretty awesome, not enough breeze to show it off proper and maybe not quite as powerful as the big one - but a 16 would deffo equal or maybe surpass the big guy. Good to see quite a few regulars down for a midday meet . Sweet Ainsdale afternoon topped off with a beers and natter evening. Nice one dudes . http://www.bobmcgee.com/images/kites/jon1.JPG Proud father http://www.bobmcgee.com/images/kites/cob.JPG Dig those undulations http://www.bobmcgee.com/images/kites/sun.JPG Can't see it but Proud Father was draggin' baby around out there somewhere . Late afternoon tomorrow and we may just get a Crackerjack Friday breeze.
kitebiatch Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 Anyone wishing to fly at ainsdale may contact the CCS (coast and country side service, Sefton) office to obtain further information, there is no need to be a member of any club to use the beach, those holding current permits are reminded that those permits are valid.
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