Hi jelly man thanks for the advice, ive been told by another person that the back tip is a bad idea as well so i think i will leave that well alone. I have been flying kites for a few months now, got a firebee and a blade so i kinda get the jist of flying. Ive also flown a couple of kite surfing kites before aswell, im not looking for a kite right now, just kinda looking around to see what would be best for me.