HELP! buggy accessories

[stiffy]

I'm a 6th form student studying product design and I intend to design and produce a series of buggy accessories.

These accessories will be removable and suitable for use on all makes of buggy, they will also attach without needing to make permanent alterations.

 

Below is a list of 15 possible accessories, I would much appreciate it if you could put a mark out of 10 (1 being lowest and 10 being highest) for each option in terms of how useful you would find each one;

 

 

1 - Back rest

2 - Belly pan

3 - Bottle holder

4 - Buggy tow system (to save carrying and dragging buggy)

5 - Camera mount

6 - Foot pegs

7 - Foot straps

8 - GPS holder

9 - Mobile phone holder

10 - Mudguard (front)

11 - Mudguards (back)

12 - Number plates

13 - Rail covers

14 - Seat belt

15 - Towing attachment

Also, could you say what kite buggy you have please http://www.powerkiteforum.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

 

Some of these are already in production; however I aim to improve on those existing designs.

 

It would be really appreciated if you could reply to this and leave your feedback.

 

 

many thanks! http://www.powerkiteforum.com/images/smilies/spin.gif

[craig.w1599968638]

Nearly all those things you listed are already being made by a few different people, not sure of anymore needed really or how design could be improved....

 

but...out of 10 i would give the RIPS belly pan i have one of the most important things i have on my bug...so 10 for that and also my mudgaurd (http://www.rcguards.co.uk) really stops the stuff flying up so 10 for that as well

 

???

[bonefish]

make me a mudgaurd for a flexi buggy

that would be cool

[shrimpo]

As Craig says a lot of them in production.

 

 

I would go for the following..

 

 

3 - Bottle holder 7

4 - Buggy tow system (to save carrying and dragging buggy) 9

5 - Camera mount 8

8 - GPS holder 10

15 - Towing attachment 6

 

The GPS holder, although Garmin do one for bikes,, I would look at something like a pouch,, I use an old phone holder, with the pcv fromt removed, and velcro straps to hold it on the down tube,,, it could do with some improvments, and if it fitted Garmins a lot of them out in use.

 

Buggy tow system,, ok most just use a bit of rope,, so scope on that one.

 

Camera mount,, most have ha 1/4 whit thread i nthe bottom, so it could be very generic, you would have to look at how to get rid of camera shake.

 

Bottle holder,,, not sure it is would be usefull, most use camel packs if thay want water with them.

 

Towing attachement,, a few been done, but don't think one that fits all bugs is a vailable, maybe apart from the one I made.

 

 

 

My bugs..

 

Phoon Mk1

V-max.

 

 

Let me know if you want photos of my GPS holder or tow kit...

 

Shrimpo

[Sparhawk]

1 - Back rest - Done, You cant beat a trikbitz

2 - Belly pan - Done, You cant beat a RIPS.

3 - Bottle holder - Really? No need.

4 - Buggy tow system (to save carrying and dragging buggy) Rope? Not sure you can re design that.

5 - Camera mount - Hmmm Potential

6 - Foot pegs - Errrr. Integral part of a buggy

7 - Foot straps - Done, whats available is available

8 - GPS holder - You mean a mobile phone case?

9 - Mobile phone holder - See above, not sure you needone on a buggy anyway - You cant hear it ring with your helmet on.

10 - Mudguard (front) - craig's mate (see above) already got that one nailed.

11 - Mudguards (back) - Don't be silly, why?

12 - Number plates - Limited market. Fascia Board works best

13 - Rail covers - Check Out Buggy bags stuff, Its sorted.

14 - Seat belt - OK You got me here, you may have a great idea for these, I can't see the need for one myself ;-)

15 - Towing attachment - Whats available is available.

Also, could you say what kite buggy you have please http://www.powerkiteforum.com/images/smilies/smile.gif I ride a pogona

 

Some of these are already in production; however I aim to improve on those existing designs. - Doubt that you can

 

It would be really appreciated if you could reply to this and leave your feedback. No problemo

[mick]

what about an ash tray. Saves messing the environment up if you're a smoker.

 

PL. XR with Jaguar five point cut down. No refinements at all.

[craig.w1599968638]

give bob a shout from here http://www.rcguards.co.uk his are top quality & super strong fibreglass

 

 

make me a mudgaurd for a flexi buggy

that would be cool

[-Olly-]

14 - Seat belt - OK You got me here, you may have a great idea for these, I can't see the need for one myself ;-)

 

i got on eiwht my comp buggy. tbh it just gets in the way and is really annoying

 

BUT

 

it could have potential for the few mad people that do buggy tricks and jumps

[TheBeast]

i made my buggy as my A level project for product design. but its similar in size to a peter lynn comp. I think youve got potential with the camera mount! maybe a cheap interchangeable mud guard. carefull with how many ideas your taking on, looks like youve been told to this as research for a first hand source of info. Keep the design simple as poss for whatever you do, the more technical the more there is to go wrong.

[Adam F]

Great idea for a Cam mount, would love that.

[Active-8]

just go buy one from maplins for £5. clamp type with adjustable angles

 

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?TabID=1&ModuleNo=45385&doy=3m11

sorry i lied its a tenner

[Anne1599968726]

1 - Back rest - No thanks

2 - Belly pan - got one ta

3 - Bottle holder - YES PLEASE

4 - Buggy tow system (to save carrying and dragging buggy) - got it sorted

5 - Camera mount - No thanks

6 - Foot pegs - all buggies have these!!

7 - Foot straps - no thanks, not safe

8 - GPS holder - got one

9 - Mobile phone holder - are you serious?

10 - Mudguard (front) - got one

11 - Mudguards (back) - could be interesting

12 - Number plates - got em

13 - Rail covers - got em

14 - Seat belt - oh hell no

15 - Towing attachment - Vmax has one

Also, could you say what kite buggy you have please Libre V-max, well modded.

 

My buggy already has a bellypan (made by dangerous bob), a GPS holder and front mudguard (made by mrbuggy), race number plates (made by me) and my towing straps also come in handy for strapping my camelback onto the buggy. Its not ideal but hey, I DO NOT want a camelback strapped to ME so it goes on the bug.

An actual secure bottle holder would be good, though I'd be back to the problem of trying to drink with a full face helmet on.

I don't want footstraps (took mine off) because I like my ankles.

I don't want a backrest because all the ones I've seen are too high and I like my neck and shoulders, and I like being able to twist and lean in all directions.

I don't want a seatbelt because I don't want to jump with my buggy.

Don't want a camera mount.

Rear mudguards could be interesting.

The Vmax has a wee bit on the back axle for towing. God knows why, its easy enough to tie a bit of rope securely to an axle.

My siderail covers will need replacing sometime, but buggybags will be getting the honour of doing that.

 

A mobile phone holder? No. Just no.

[Sand-Yeti]

Sounds like a useful project.

 

I build my own buggies:

 

1 - Back rest

Part of my standard design.

2 - Belly pan

Use thick truck inner tube stuck under the seat. Belly pan not required for me

3 - Bottle holder

I use an insulated Camelbak fixed to my backrest. A bottle isn't practical when buggying. (Note too that I use a full face helmet). I need to frequently suck on water through a tube.

4 - Buggy tow system (to save carrying and dragging buggy)

Don't have & don't really need.

5 - Camera mount.

I put this as priority No 2 at the moment. It needs to be on a bracket mounted on the rear axle. Don't know if you can design it to absorb shocks?

6 - Foot pegs

Not really an accessory as they are part of a buggy anyway. Perhaps you mean fitting a foot plate to existing pegs?

7 - Foot straps

I have them already. Perhaps you could design a safety footstrap that opens in the event of an OBE. This does exist to some extent with Velcro style straps

8 - GPS holder

This would be my my priority No. 1 on this list. I used a Geko which was fine because it fitted in a mobile phone holder. I now use an Etrex and can't find a large enough mobile phone holder to accommodate it. Popeyethewelder has made a very nice GPS holder out of stainless plate. You should check out his site.

9 - Mobile phone holder.

Not needed. I carry both my walkie talkie & mobile in the back seat pocket.

10 - Mudguard (front)

Not required (never rains here).

11 - Mudguards (back)

Not required (never rains here).

12 - Number plates

Not required; no serious racing here

13 - Rail covers

I make my own covers but would put this a priority 3. You should include the side rail padding as well. Same should be for backrest.

14 - Seat belt.

I don't use one although sometimes It would be good to have one.

It must have a quick release feature

15 - Towing attachment.

Nice to have for the occasional visitor but don't really need it. I have made one but used it about twice in 6 years.

 

I think you should include body protection in your accessories. I don't know that a there is any specific body protection for buggiers. I think most of us use body protection from all sorts of other sports.

 

Good project and as you can see from the other posts there are people interested to have accessories. Pricing and distribution needs to be right though.

 

It's difficult for me to prioritize the whole list but have shown the items that do interest me.

[GIBBYDMG]

:confused:Hey Sparhawk if you had a flexi buggy with the cambered back axle you would definitely know why you would need rear mudguards. ( and not only for mud ).Gibby!!!

[shrimpo]

just go buy one from maplins for £5. clamp type with adjustable angles

 

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?TabID=1&ModuleNo=45385&doy=3m11

sorry i lied its a tenner

 

But how well do they work,, as when I have had a go,, you get loads of shake, that one looks a bit weak, and only for the small cameras.

 

I want one you can attach a standard vid (not dig) that will not look like its going to shake off,, some sort of gymble type thing... but not huge expense..

 

Shrimpo

[SandMonster]

1 - Back rest 0

2 - Belly pan 10

3 - Bottle holder 1

4 - Buggy tow system (to save carrying and dragging buggy) 2

5 - Camera mount 4 (where would you put it - I'm thinking on the down tube so you can operate the camera while riding?)

6 - Foot pegs 10 (not really an accessory - more an essential part of the bugg??? )

7 - Foot straps 10 (again essential)

8 - GPS holder 2

9 - Mobile phone holder 2

10 - Mudguard (front) 5

11 - Mudguards (back) 2

12 - Number plates 0

13 - Rail covers 7

14 - Seat belt 7

15 - Towing attachment 0 (if to tow the buggy?) or 4 (if a tandem kit?)

 

 

Hope this helps...

 

PS (I got a standard flexi buggy)

PPS (you left off wide wheels - useful (5/10) if you go on a lot of soft beaches)

[Sparhawk]

:confused:Hey Sparhawk if you had a flexi buggy with the cambered back axle you would definitely know why you would need rear mudguards. ( and not only for mud ).Gibby!!!

 

Hey Gibby!

 

I wouldnt get a flexi back axle with camber in place , cos they were ****

[R6Dno]

how about a "ground stake holder" just an idea

Libre special and peter lynn comp (tandem buggy)

[Active-8]

how about a "ground stake holder" just an idea

Libre special and peter lynn comp (tandem buggy)

 

i have a box full of them. £3 each.hehe

[8015]

Tornado MkII (backrest footpegs and sidrail covers are included)

 

1 - Back rest = 0 (built in to any decent race buggy)

2 - Belly pan = 3 (like the idea but it needs to be light and not drag on the ground, probably won't ever use)

3 - Bottle holder = 1 (Useful for non-race days)

4 - Buggy tow system = 9 (rigid tow system like xxracer would be good, 60kg buggy + 30kg kit towing downhill on a rope leads to getting run over quite often)

5 - Camera mount = 5 (but first I need to fix my ATC2000. I assume you mean video cam mount rather than stills?)

6 - Foot pegs = 2 (platform footrests so you can reach them with the DT in the optimum balanced position )

7 - Foot straps = 2 (far too easy to custom rig to your own preference. My design is ace, some people like tighter some like none at all)

8 - GPS holder = 1 (reinventing the wheel?)

9 - Mobile phone holder = 1 (reinventing the wheel?)

10 - Mudguard (front) = 10 (need to be customised to each fork design)

11 - Mudguards (back) = 7 (definitely thinking about these myself, not sure how important though)

12 - Number plates = 6 (easy to rig if you can find material, which is the biggest problem people have. Need to customise to siderails)

13 - Rail covers = 0 (I think buggybagman has the market stitched up, apart from those of us who are capable of making our own of course)

14 - Seat belt = 0 (illegal in racing and damn stupid if you aren't a jumper, and they are all insane anyway)

15 - Towing attachment =1/2 (sometimes I have so much kit for race events that I need to tow a second buggy to carry it all, well I don't I just keep piling it up and tying it on...)

[diddy dave]

ive got a i-pod on my buggy with speakers on the back axle

[SandMonster]

Stiffy, I'm curious whether the responses were useful.....?

[shrimpo]

Stiffy, I'm curious whether the responses were useful.....?

 

 

As he only posted the once,, I don't think so....

[tigertim]

Interested in:

 

Buggy Tow system to fit a Tornado. Like Boater said it needs to be rigid but how about one that breaks down to save space in the car. One which has a harness too???

 

Front 3D Mudguard for Tornado

 

Towing attachment? Maybe. Nice cheap and easy one. Could be a way of getting the Mrs into buggying

[8015]

Front 3D Mudguard for Tornado

 

As soon as I finish tidying up my flat and move to larger premises I will commence work on a mould for just such a thing. Don't have the space to do it now, and can't see me getting the flat on the market before xmas now, so feel free to buy something inferior as a stop-gap

 

Jim