jdhot Posted May 12, 2011 Report Posted May 12, 2011 Wouldn't they have less traction? compared to the more comonly used tyre's. would these rims 'require' camber adjustment or will they be fine @ 90 deg ? I have a set of disc tyres and yes they certainly do have a lot less traction. They slip sideways very easily even with camber and slight tread on the tyres. They require very hard packed sand (for beaches) or they start to bog @ Marty don't know whether these would require camber for the lateral force on the bearings but would require camber for previous comment. This sort of setup is purely for serious speed attempts even though Nigel with his 98.? and Jason's high speed record weren't on disc's (correct me if I'm wrong) for general buggy the other setups are ideal. Big Foot Duro tyres on 4" rims on higher pessure work well for high speed, and work in soft sand too JD Quote
BGKD Posted May 12, 2011 Report Posted May 12, 2011 Unless you have a large enough area I'm not really convinced by discs, the lack of sideways traction will probably slow you down more than any other benefits you will gain from them. Cambering isn't just about the bearings, it improves the loading on the spokes from sideways force. Quote
Jason Posted May 17, 2011 Author Report Posted May 17, 2011 It's more the foot pegs that are turning me on... Would it be possible to attach S1 foot pegs to an S2 fork? Sorry failed to mention the S1 fork as a whole will fit the S2 Quote
BGKD Posted May 18, 2011 Report Posted May 18, 2011 Sorry failed to mention the S1 fork as a whole will fit the S2 Interesting.... how much work is there to fit it on a Vmax? Quote
Slartibartfast Posted May 18, 2011 Report Posted May 18, 2011 Dont think there would be an issue with rake angle as that is done on the swan neck not the fork, would just be the fit between top and bottom plate over said swan neck mate I was going to let this one slide through with out comment but since BGKD is asking about fitting them to the Vmax again I thought I'd make a quick mention of the difference between 'rake', 'offset' and 'trail'. 'rake' (as it is called on a motorbike) refers to the angle at which the axis of rotation is inclined. On a motorbike or buggy with straight forks this is exactly the angle of the front forks themselves. 'Offset' on a motorbike (or confusingly what is referred to as 'rake' on a push bike) is the distance the front axle is ahead of the axis of rotation. On a motorbike this is achieved with the triple clamps (the forks are always ahead of the pivot), on a push bike this is (traditionally) achieved by having the forks curve forwards. On the S1 the offset is achieved by having the front axle mounted in plates that extend forward of the forks. 'Trail' is the distance the wheels contact point with the ground is behind the axis of rotation. Trail causes the 'castor' effect where a car/bike/buggy tends to "steer it's self straight" when no input is given. The longer the 'trail' the stronger this 'castor' effect. The reason we have 'offset' is to reduce 'trail' and hence reduce the caster effect. The upshot of all this is that the more 'rake' you have and the bigger the front wheel is the more 'offset' one needs to keep the steering light. That's why when you see those custom Harley's with the exaggerated rake they have those tiny front wheels. As the rake becomes even more ridiculous you'll see these Harley's often end up mounting the front wheel on 'extender plates' (much like the S1 forks have) to reduce the trail even further. The reason I mention all this is that although the rake is indeed defined by your buggies down tube/swan neck the offset is defined by the forks themselves. Assuming they can be fitted I should imagine the S1's forks would wind up being fine on a V-Max I'm just pointing out that if the rake is significantly different there could be a problem as those S1 forks do have a pretty mean 'offset'. Clear as mud? Quote
BGKD Posted May 20, 2011 Report Posted May 20, 2011 S2 fork = $296AUD S1 fork = $455AUD are these the standard bigfoot forks or do they do midi fork, what's the price of liver stainless bf forks Quote
riotflyer Posted May 21, 2011 Report Posted May 21, 2011 are these the standard bigfoot forks or do they do midi fork, what's the price of liver stainless bf forks THE PRICE OF LIVER? have you gone mad or am I just missing something here. Quote
BGKD Posted May 21, 2011 Report Posted May 21, 2011 bloody spell checker on my tablet, you really have to keep an eye on it! Quote
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Slartibartfast Posted May 25, 2011 Report Posted May 25, 2011 Final production expected in May Pre-orders will be taken soon for buggies and wheels with delivery in June. How's the time frame looking? Would love one (or two) for the June long weekend... Any chance? (: Quote
Jason Posted June 1, 2011 Author Report Posted June 1, 2011 Looks like shipping in the next couple of weeks but not sure how many we will order as there are no buggy pre-orders. Maybe I will order none. Quote
Camarillobrillo Posted June 2, 2011 Report Posted June 2, 2011 Jason, I will put my pre-order in now.... Jasper Quote
Jason Posted June 2, 2011 Author Report Posted June 2, 2011 Going through the prices tonight for those who want non standard buggies. The S2 will accept up to Midi XL but not Bigfoot. Quote
JKS Posted June 2, 2011 Report Posted June 2, 2011 Is Chris making a fork to suit the new disc rim ? Quote
Jason Posted June 2, 2011 Author Report Posted June 2, 2011 17" rims will fit on any Bigfoot fork. Quote
Jason Posted June 2, 2011 Author Report Posted June 2, 2011 OK hopefully we have all items and options online now - http://www.briskites.com.au/index.php?l=product_list&m=34 Sorry for the delays. Quote
imjimbo Posted June 2, 2011 Report Posted June 2, 2011 @ jas.. any news on if they fixed the upside down logo on the pad covers. ie made a l and r cover ??? tis the only thing that annoys me bout mine Quote
Jason Posted June 2, 2011 Author Report Posted June 2, 2011 I discussed with him last season a redesign of the pads so the seams face down. I know they have implemented that but not sure about the Logo etc. New seat is improved material and offers higher adjustment for those that want it. Quote
Jason Posted June 2, 2011 Author Report Posted June 2, 2011 Forgot to mention the logos on my buggy aren't upside down. One side has logo at front and the other side has logo at the back. Quote
JKS Posted June 2, 2011 Report Posted June 2, 2011 Forgot to mention the logos on my buggy aren't upside down. One side has logo at front and the other side has logo at the back. Nice one Watson Quote
Slartibartfast Posted June 3, 2011 Report Posted June 3, 2011 Hmm, just poring over specifications. I note the S1 is rated to 130kg while both the mild and stainless S2 are only rated to 110kg. How strict is this rating? Anyone know what it is about the S1 that gives it the higher rating? Given I have a nice manly 120kg frame (prone to topping out at 130) should I be committed to the S1? Quote
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