chisp Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 Hi all. I've seen guys attach a rope to a harness then to a tree enabling to flyer to hang in mid air while flying a large power kite. >5m Anyone got any ideas / sugestions / links on attaching a harness to an mobile anchor ? Sometimes you cant get a car near enough or theres no trees to tie a rope too. edited. // I WILL NOT be trying this, thanks for all the input and advice. Cheers. Cris. Quote
Brother Dave Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 I went to a boat shop to get some rope 15m also fixed 2 metal eyes to the ends of the rope . Then attach karibinas to each end, then attach one end to my harness one to my sons and away he goes up 14m into the air and boy does he love it. And thats with a blade2 3m. I have seen people attach lines to all sorts and yes its alot of fun. GO FOR IT:D :D Quote
jamie828 Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 isnt that supposed to be one of the most dangerous things u can do with a kite. i hav read countless storys on this forum about people getting really hurt.it sounds fun but looks too dangerous Quote
Joelio Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 yup - broken legs, arns, concussion etc etc etc Quote
Brother Dave Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 Originally posted by jamie828 isnt that supposed to be one of the most dangerous things u can do with a kite. i hav read countless storys on this forum about people getting really hurt.it sounds fun but looks too dangerous Its the same if you where taking off, but you are attached to a rope. Also you only live once and no pain, no gain. I remember seeing a kite surf video where the flyer was attached to a winch and he was about 100ft in the air now that looked fun. so go for it:rolleyes: Quote
chisp Posted May 18, 2003 Author Report Posted May 18, 2003 Hi David, I saw the same vid with the guy in the air... sooo high! I also see your from Grangemouth, where did you buy your rope from ? South Queensferry ? I'm over in Edinburgh next weekend, so could make a purchase then. I think we'll start with 5 metres and see how it goes. Dont fancy a broken leg / arm / ankle. Cheers. Cris. saltnsauce Quote
Joelio Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 I suppose i would do it - with a huge kite in moderate winds (10-15mph with a blade II 6.4+????) but not attatched to anything - people holding onto the rope. That way i'll get jolted less, they'll be able to bring me down easier, and with a larger kite a small drop in wid wouldn't create a large drop in Joelio Quote
spooky Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 Good to see that despite a number of threads relating to safety, ensureing that advice offered is correct (rather than being sketchy and room for error by the person acting upon it) we still seem to be encorageing stupidity!! Alot of people seem to think that just because they have flown in certain condtion or with a certain set up, that they are suitabley qualified to offer advice on ALL aspects!! Trust me teathered flying is not something that you should under take at the best of times, let alone with limited experience of kite flying! Especially with small kites as this means you are flying in strong winds where if something goes wrong it willl do so hard and fast. NO ROOM FOR ERROR!!!! If you are doing teathered flying you need to be in CONTROL at all times, ie you deside when to go up and down, not the wind when a gust comes through!! Also when teathered you become part of the line so you go where the line goes! Try this attach something to one of your lines about 10m up and see what happens to it, as you move the kite about the object will get thrown all over the place, including upside down!! Now most people have problems controling a kite when they are the right way up, up side down means you will screw up and pull the wrong line and down you will come fast and DEAD!!! Sorry if I sound a kill joy, but this will lead to injuries and bans. You want to go high? Then do it under control either with static jumps or with a mountain board, people will be more impressed with you jumping 15 foot under control with an ATB than being lifted 20 foot teathered when it does not look like you are doing anything (which you are usually not as the wind is in charge!!) Jon Quote
Chris-Aer Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 If you insist on tethered flying (I personally suggest you don't) then as suggested tether yourself to other people (three or four ideally) who you trust 100%, not a solid object. Also remember that the weakest part of the line is most probabily you. The first thing to snap will probabily be your grip on the handles. Also a good idea to ensure you have stronger lines than usual and that they are free from any fraying (snap leads to ouch) These are tips for if you insist on doing this but if you are wise you will stick to other activities. Quote
chisp Posted May 18, 2003 Author Report Posted May 18, 2003 Hi Points taken on board. I was enquiring and will perhaps avoid trying tethering now, thanks for replies. Cris. Quote
schmik1599968584 Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 It would probably be a good idea to start off with a 1.5m rope.... that is, your feet would barely be off the ground. That way its not too far to fall. Other than that get a 20m kite.... i think they are called paragliders! schmik Quote
spooky Posted May 19, 2003 Report Posted May 19, 2003 "Start with a short rope, so you will not have far to fall"? This may be true but if something brakes you will not just fall, as you are under load you will be catapulted into the ground (which way up is not garrentted??) so you will hit with more force, so even from a low hight you will get hurt! Jon Quote
Agger Posted May 19, 2003 Report Posted May 19, 2003 Well done spooky some sensible advice on this subject :) Quote
tom1599968574 Posted May 19, 2003 Report Posted May 19, 2003 you do hit the ground harder. my advice would be to use the biggest, slowest kite you can get your hands on. blades are too fast, even the big ones. huge kite in moderate winds (10-15mph with a blade II 6.4+????) we use the 20m nasa wing in that wind! (and im about 10stone!) found that is the best kite by far. it is so slow, it boosts you up there with no probs what so ever cos of the torque from 20 square metres then it just hangs you there and brings you down so slowly. the 7.2 blade gets you up there then it stops and you come down pretty fast! as for an anchor, dont fix yourself to something solid, something will break cos there is no give and you will die. go for a couple of heavy people! people will be more impressed with you jumping 15 foot under control with an ATB than being lifted 20 foot teathered when it does not look like you are doing anything with the rope attatched to the back of your harness, you can spin, invert and do a fair amount of air tricks. quite easy to put in a big combo when your in the air for 30 seconds! tom ps, i assume you are using a very sturdy harness and lines. we have snapped two loops off a caving harness, each rated at 110kgs in a wind that weas too light to lift me of the ground. Quote
JP- Posted May 19, 2003 Report Posted May 19, 2003 I have never done it but would it be a good idea to have a bit of bungy in your rope so that your arms are not ripped off when the rope kicks in. Quote
burgy Posted May 19, 2003 Report Posted May 19, 2003 Originally posted by david furmage Its the same if you where taking off, but you are attached to a rope. Also you only live once and no pain, no gain. You are so far away from the truth dude, teathered flying is the most dangerous thing, It increases the loads on the kit & puts you in as part of the system. jumping is way different, your in free flight & the loads start to decrease as soon as you leave the floor. In my experance a kite in free fall is way less lightly to luff due to wind shifts etc. I remember seeing a kite surf video where the flyer was attached to a winch and he was about 100ft in the air now that looked fun. so go for it:rolleyes: & I have seen a couple of videos where it all went really bad. one guy ripped the tip off his LEI & another snapped a 900lb line. both were lucky to be over water & not the land. by all means try it but be aware of the risk & do it properly. Quote
fox 2 Posted May 19, 2003 Report Posted May 19, 2003 nice words spooky! yet another thread where dodgey advice was being given out! nothing more to add apart from ive done some stupid things but this i wouldnt try! i value my back and legs! Rather be able to walk! Quote
logicworkshop Posted May 19, 2003 Report Posted May 19, 2003 On a really sombre note, I have just heard that someone's son died at the weekend as a result of an accident whilst tethered kite flying. All of us involved in extreme sports have to take risk seriously. Too many people seem to work on the basis that they will take safety precautions just before they have an accident. If we don't take safety seriously then someone else will decide for us and it is easier for 'them' to simply ban the activities rather than police them. Listen to those that know what they're talking about and take note. Even kites are not worth dying for. Quote
koldo Posted May 20, 2003 Report Posted May 20, 2003 I once watched a guy with a 4.9m blade teather himself to his estate car... He was very careful setting up his kit...he had ski boots on and a harness and padding everywhere... His teathering rope was attached to the back of his harness and to the tow eye of the car... The teathering rope was about eight foot long...not very long that he couldn't do any damage or so he thought... The first big wind lifted him off the ground and dragged him around to the rear side of the car where he broke his right leg in two places with the force of being slapped into the car...the car also sufferered damage of a very dented rear panel and smashed side window... It did not end there...the guy was picked up again like a rag doll and dumped on the bonnet of the car which he reckons did the second break in his leg... But the pain did not end there... We bundled his kit into his car and I took him to A&E in mine and whilst we were away from the area some w*nker broke into his car and stole all his kit... Our sport is extreme enough without teathering ourselves to anything or anyone...but if you have to do it make sure you have a non kiting individual about that can take you to hospital...that way us kiters and stay and enjoy... Carlos K632 UK1 - 6 weeks out for torn ligaments...how long does a broken leg take??? Quote
madonkites Posted May 20, 2003 Report Posted May 20, 2003 When are people going to wake up to the dangers of kiting. Tethered 'jumping' has got to be one of the most dangerous activities. Even the most stable of kites will fold if a gust takes the kite beyond the edge of the window. A folding kite with 10 stone attached is just a dish rag that very soon becomes a death shroud. Combine a too bigger kite with inland thermals and you have a very explosive mixture. This thread is totally irresponsible given the recent accident in Suffolk where a man was killed by a gust of wind. If you don't care for yourself, think about the people you leave behind. Carl. Quote
Tom183 Posted May 20, 2003 Report Posted May 20, 2003 Also you only live once and no pain, no gain. You only DIE once too... "Every day is the first day of the rest of your life - except for one..." from the movie "American Beauty" Quote
tom1599968574 Posted May 21, 2003 Report Posted May 21, 2003 tethering yourself to something solid, i.e. a car is one of the dumbest things you could do. we have been manlifting for 5 or six years and never once been hurt. if your gonna use a kite that is fast, your gonna get hurt. if you dont use rediculously strong kit your gonna get hurt. if your not very good, your gonna get hurt, big time. pretty obvious when you think about it! tom Quote
Nick G Posted May 21, 2003 Report Posted May 21, 2003 There is some tethered flying on the power trip video, i had another look at it this morning, I can see the attraction of having a go at this, it looks awsome. But at the end of day it's not worth risking one's life or health. I love this pastime of are's to bit's, it certainly brings things home to one when something like this happen's. Tom you have hit the nail on the head. Nick G Quote
Guest MATT1000 Posted May 22, 2003 Report Posted May 22, 2003 i heard that this was the method of kite flying that that unfortunate soul who died this week was employing. be warned, very warned..... a seven year old......? be responsible people, or you'll ruin it for all of us..... Quote
penance Posted May 22, 2003 Report Posted May 22, 2003 Originally posted by david furmage I went to a boat shop to get some rope 15m also fixed 2 metal eyes to the ends of the rope . Then attach karibinas to each end, then attach one end to my harness one to my sons and away he goes up 14m into the air and boy does he love it. And thats with a blade2 3m. I have seen people attach lines to all sorts and yes its alot of fun. GO FOR IT:D :D i assume you want your son dead? did you know that a fall of 10foot will quadruple your body weight by the time you touch down i do hope your jokeing, if not you should be locked up for blatent disregard for your sons life Quote
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