Problem with jumps

[tracker]

I can pendulum quite happily now and now learning jumps on the board. The problem it not that i am getting high enough as there is plenty left in the kite. I am only doing a couple of feet at the moment but i find that my gut muscles are killing just after a few small jumps almost feels like i have pulled them.

 

My feeling is that i am not relaxing into the jump enought but was wondering is the weight if my board adding to the factor being a nosno with 10" wheels. My harness is a kitewaist not the sit type. The kite is a naish element.

 

Advice please.

[Afro1599968737]

which muscles hurt?

[Afro1599968737]

you do need a level of core fitness for kiteboarding, this includes your stomach muscles

you will get used to it, and can speed up the process by doing more excercise that focuses on these muscles

 

(yes your board is heavier than most, but only by a few kg... by all means try a lighter one, but i dont think it will help very much)

[stug45]

board doesnt make any difference

i can go as high as lighter friends with lighter boards....its all about technique. how much are you "sending" the kite?

[weazel]

i've been using a quasar2 deck with 9" tires and just changing the tires and hubs made a big diffrence, i imagine because less weight is pivoting from your ankles and manovering and ajusting is so much easyer now. building a trampa deck now cos the quasar is usless for air and bottoms out

[tracker]

I though that might be the case i do do a fair amount of excersise but i only weight 9 stone wet through so i night have to start doing sit ups with a weight or just jump more and get used to it.

 

Cheers

[tracker]

i've been using a quasar2 deck with 9" tires and just changing the tires and hubs made a big diffrence, i imagine because less weight is pivoting from your ankles and manovering and ajusting is so much easyer now. building a trampa deck now cos the quasar is usless for air and bottoms out

 

 

I do have some 8" wheels but will need spacers for them to fit my nosno might see if i can find somthing to fit.

[weazel]

i've been using a quasar2 deck with 9" tires and just changing the tires and hubs made a big diffrence, i imagine because less weight is pivoting from your ankles and manovering and ajusting is so much easyer now. building a trampa deck now cos the quasar is usless for air and bottoms out

 

 

I do have some 8" wheels but will need spacers for them to fit my nosno might see if i can find somthing to fit.

 

 

but like everyone says it shouldnt make a diffrence onto the air you'll get, but i became alot more confident once i had some 8" on, i could slide easyer when getting gusts, where as with the 9" on i just dug in and i got dragged off

[Siimon]

TBH I find that happens with waist harnesses. After a really good session it'll hurt when I sneeze for a few days at least. Still, it's better than a seat harness crushing you.

[Maro]

It gets easier, just keep at it, soon you will be carrying a 6 pack:) , also as said above it's cos you're using a waist harness. A lighter board will of course make a bit of difference, specially to a smaller fella.

[Evertone]

I learned to jump using a no-sno board and like you I had pains in my stomach muscles. Turned out it was because I was trying too hard to physically jump and not using the kite enough by directing it back to 12 o'clock aggressively enough to get the lift. Once I learned to do this the weight of the board made little difference nor did the type of harness I wore (usually seat but sometimes climbing).

 

Relax and let the kite do the work

[plummet]

yeah i get sore gut muscles when i jump. i'm wearing a waist harness.... size of the board makes no difference as i get sore muscles when static jumping too.

 

infact i run 10" tyres on my board and i find they help my ability to jump!. i can hold more power and don't need to bother about landing in the soft as the tyres don't dig in.

 

anyway to jump higher do one or all of the following.

 

send the kite back further

redirect faster

carver upwind harder

physically jump higher on take off

board faster into the jump

go out in higher winds

use a bigger kite

[Cyprino]

My stomach was aching a bit earlier, i'd got my first proper jumps with the 16m Venom :D

 

All seems ok now, I use a dakine waist harness.

I wasn't going particularly high, but the whole feeling of jumping with a board is wicked

[air evo]

bunch of women;)

[austin]

i found that a climbing harness was best to start when learning to jump as it was a lot eaiser to get used to and meant no nasty aches or pains, jumping is all about confidence, what a lot of people will tell you to do is lean back into the kite and 'edge' against it so that you arn't going downwind too much, i liked to fix a target in the distance and aim for that so that you are really pulling away from the kite, keep aiming for the target and with the kite at 2 send it across the wind window to 10, at this point do not go downwind or you wont get much air at all it has to be one smooth movement. when airborn simply redirect land and check to see all your mates saw you,

if you need any help or advice we run free coaching sessions on the 3rd sunday of each month

[tsp13]

im not sure if this is right as i have never seen you ride. but...

 

try not edging up so hard so you go into the jump with more speed. and the more you edge up i find the lower you jump and the more strian on your body. you hardly need to edge up at all and make sure you land slightly down wind.

 

hope this helps. as i had the same problem but this fixed it straight away.

[tracker]

Yeah i think i have been edging up to hard to the point of almost stopping. Was out yesterday and got a few more jumps off again still only a few feet. But was a bit more confortable in the harness. Guess it just takes time.

[tsp13]

you don't realy need to edge up at all. and you need to be going fast, not nearly stopping. and don't worry that when you get higher it will hurt more if you don't land it as you have more time to think about the landing and get your board at the right angle so your landings should be better and so much smoother.

[Gizmo]

To be honest it happens.....it takes time to get you muscles used to it and trained...this sport uses muscles groups you dont use in other sports and although training in the gym will help it wont prepare you fully for it.

 

One other factor is the harness. Are you sure its the right fit and if so that it is tight enough to stop it riding up.

 

One more factor is your body position which is the most common cause of stomach aches in a waist harness. If it is wrong then you will suffer more. Rather than tell you it is easier to watch so get onto youtube/vimeo and the like and look for tutorials in body position. In short though you should let the harness take the pull of the kite and that pull should be transferred to your back. If you are sticking your backside out or down then your stomach is taking all the strain so make sure you keep you backside tucked in under your pelvis.

[The Geoff]

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One more factor is your body position which is the most common cause of stomach aches in a waist harness. If it is wrong then you will suffer more. Rather than tell you it is easier to watch so get onto youtube/vimeo and the like and look for tutorials in body position. In short though you should let the harness take the pull of the kite and that pull should be transferred to your back. If you are sticking your backside out or down then your stomach is taking all the strain so make sure you keep you backside tucked in under your pelvis.

 

In simpler terms, "lean back more"

[KaptainKremmen]

My stomach muscles always ache after a session. When I could fly regularly the aches went away and the six pack started to grow.

 

Not many people can work their Abs in the gym for the same amount of time you use them kiting

 

Pulling your knees up when you jump will make it worse ( but then the jumps won't look quite as high )