rodpacker

damn looks like I won't be able to make it this weekend either - too much on (((((( SUX! I'll try to go next week though if anybody is up for it!?

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Hi Joel, sorry for the delay. I have tried to answer your PM but got denied to send you PM's? Anyways, THANKS A LOT for your effort! I REALLY do appreciate! However, I talked to the ebay seller I mentioned above and ended up buying that Savage2 - it should be here within 10days - YEEEEW! (Luckily enough there is a dealer over in France that sells these - for a limited time - for almost half the RRP in Europe AND sending to Australia means that they don't have to chuck on VAT which is basically as much as the shipping via Fedex => I am paying the same price I would if I bought it in Europe - woooo! Anyways, they've got a bunch of them for sale in various sizes atm if anybody is interested, let me know) Whilst looking into the Savages I found that the kite advertised here is supposed to be AMAZING and I have seen people getting bladelike hangtime with this kite. I am taking a bit of a risk getting the new one as there is no reviews on it anywhere as of yet - at least I couldn't find any - and am paying $100 more - let's see if it's worth it. However I can highly recommend the Savage 1! Good luck selling it, I think the only reason why it's still here is cause the brand isn't established as of yet, BUT will be soon! People, grab a bargain! cheers

thanks joel

Hm, I could be interested BUT just checked eBay in Europe and I can get a BRAND NEW 4.5m Savage 2010!!!!!!!!!! for 210Eus which according to YahooCurrencyConverters converts to 301AUS$. (+20Eus shipping). Considering this is has been a DEMO kite for a while AND it is the OLD model, I think - no offenses - this is quite a bit overpriced. Maybe I'm wrong cheers

Hi Goshen, thanks a lot for the link. Looks like I gotta hurry cheers Rodpacker

Hi Ant, cheers for your post, glad this is informative to others then me, too Hm, these damn depowers seem to really be good - not saying I didn't believe any of the others before, don't get me wrong ... but u know the steady drop hollows the stone I'll have a look into the outlaw cheers rodpacker

Nigel, Thanks and yes u're right. I had a closer look the one on eBay seems to be a 4.9m as can be seen on the pic. Didn't notice that before. However - unless he changed it now - the table I posted (not sure why it is formatted like that now as it was formated as a proper table in the thread editor window) is taken from that auction and there he had a 5m listed and highlighted red ... however doesn't matter I guess u guys are right and there is no 5m I haven't heard of one anywhere else either. Thanks a lot for the in depth explanation of the depower kites!! Makes sense now. I'm still thinking about using a fixed bridle for most of my landboardind and snowkiting stuff and if I want more/the depower and bar feeling, just use the Cabrinha later Goshen, I think I pretty much checked all relavant areas of your site but couldn't find the blade u were talking about? Is this where I would find it: http://www.kitepower.com.au/cart.php?target=product&product_id=17275 ? I assume the 6.5m is a blade 4? cheers rodpacker

thanks Nigel . Sorry for the Noob Question, but does that mean the de-power kites have to be de-powered manually by changing the bridle lines while the kite is on the ground or is that done during flight? You've really got me thinking about depowers now. If I can find any kiters with matts around here I will definatley check it out!!! Oh and btw if this tabel isn't fake there is a 5m blade three: Model Wingspan Flat Surface Area (sq m) Aspect Ratio Sail Material Skill Level Cells 3.0 3.2 3.0 4.8 Ripstop Polyester Int/Exp 26 4.0 3.8 4.0 4.9 Int/Exp 28 4.9 4.3 4.9 5 Int/Exp 30 6.6 5 6.6 5.1 Int/Exp 32 8.5 5.7 8.5 5.2 Int/Exp 34 10.5 6.4 10.5 5.3 Int/Exp 38 And there is a 5m one for sale on eBay atm, too cheers rodpacker

Thanks Dannys Could somebody be so nice and able to possibly answer my initial question on the difference between the 4.9m and 5m Blade III's? Do the 5's really perform that much worth then the 4.9's? And what do you think which size I should get to be able to fly the most in Sydney (Beaches)? Thanks a lot for your help again cheers rodpacker

Nigel, thanks a lot for the insight - very much appreciated! Hm the blade IV 6.5 sounds pretty good then. I think I didn't articulate myself properly in my earlier post regarding the breaks What I meant is that - as far as I know - most depower systems use the exact same method one does by hitting the brakes on a fixed briddle: Pulling the back lines tighter. I started Kitesurfing back in the days when even chickenloops were considered what there name suggests - an attitude I have always found very much retarded However back then I picked up a fixed briddle foil and was amazed what I could do by changing the angle I was holding the handles in (pulling the bottom towards me). The thing with bringing the kite down in the powersone by using this method was just to emphasize my point of how much control u get by using the breaks properly. Generally it enabled me to basically fly one kite in a massive windrange by just allowing it to have more or less power ... admittedly a de-power kite and a bar have the massive advantage that u don't get tennisarms like in your teenage years while being single after a ten minute flight in high winds Anyways, I will check those de-powers out, even though I think for the moment I am after a fixed bridle because they are just sooo much smaller with an equal pull resulting in a way agile flight, less packages and a bit less hazzle to set them up cheers rodpacker

Hey guys, thanks for the replies!!! Hm strange you got such a dislike to the Blade 3's ... All I have heard about this kite is that it's amazingly good and top nodge. The videos by the brighton crew on youtube with the blade III look nuts too, they're just getting sooooo much air and even the landings look VERY smooth. But yeah u're right maybe worth waiting. As for the Savage - my bad - I did mean version two of it. When is it coming out exactly and are they out in Europe yet? I could order one from there I guess. Also when is this Interview going to be released? I've read u mention it in another post a while back too and searched for it here in the forums but couldn't find it yet. Have u guys had a test flight yet (didn't sound like it but yes I am very curious) Those buggy jumps on the old savage Andy Preston did were quite impressive but I'd be interested as on how stable the kite is and on how soft the landings are. The 8m Eolo Pro I used to have had massive lift but it just chucked u straight back down too. In general I am quite convinced of EOLO's capabilities. Thanks for the tip with the depower kites too, but first of all handles have always given me way more then enough depower (I don't think I've flown a foil kite I couldn't slowly bring back down in the powersonze by cranking in the breaks). Also I do Kiteboard and don't want another big sized kite. Just love the way the smaller foils handle by having such power => Awesome. I think I did forget to say that I snowkite a little bit as well (meaning I've done it a few times before, had fun, will do it again, but won't go for a pro career). What would u guys recommend in kite size for the blades or savages for me here (as I said living in Sydney and am the 65-70kg mark) thanks a lot cheers rodpacker

Hey guys I am new to this forum and therefore here my initial "Hello to everybody" I also got a couple questions straight away. I am looking into buying myself a "new" Ram Air Foil kite (I have owned quite a few kites in my past) and want something with a bit of lift and hangtime. I will be using it to just jump around on the beach as well as with my MountainBoard and Snowboard. I am around the 65kg-70kg mark and live in Sydney (so u know the kinda wind situation I'm in). Now I am thinking of buying a Blade III and was thinking about a 4m, 4.9m or 5m. On a first look there shouldn't be much of a difference between the 4.9 and 5m, however looking at the cell number of both it appears the 5m one has two more cells, which as far as I understand will make it more powerfull by otherwise having the same turning speed as the 4.9m, right? Is there any other differences? The other option I was starting to think of today while reading through this forum is to grab the Eolo Savage2 instead. It looks like it is in the "Test"Circle here. Can any of you that has flown it yet give me some info on lift, stability, power, how it handles gusts and so forth? How does it compare to the blade 3? I have owned a 8m Radsails Pro I a while back and the quality as well as performance was excellent. I thought they would be a lot more popular by now, but guess they aren't yet where they should be or the newer Kites aren't as good? Any input welcome ... cheers Rodpacker