I can only comment on the Rebels, but i started out as a total newb on these, 07 by the way, i've slammed em, crashed em, dunked em and they have survived with no damage, build quality is great, the depower has been a life saver, the trim abilities allowing me to develop my skill and not get bored........as for inverting, never happened to me or my mates that fly them, just my opinion on the rebel. Best thing is to try both.