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Sorry for the late response, have a new job and am working away at the moment..http://www.racekites.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gifhttp://www.racekites.com/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif..it's not over and there's more that we can and are doing for an update on what we're doing and what you may be able to do to help out please go to...... http://www.freethefields.blogspot.com http://www.racekites.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gifCAMERA FRIENDLY, VOCAL FARMERS REQUIRED!!http://www.racekites.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif

Great support .... Petition ends, but the campaign continues...new post http://freethefields.blogspot.com

Last week and Last chance to make your mark.....please show your support sign the petition if you haven't already. Closes 4th June!! http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/safeflyzones/ info @ http://freethefields.blogspot.com

A small step for the CCPR......new post. http://freethefields.blogspot.com

A letter from Defra, all our ducks in a row?.... http://freethefields.blogspot.com

It was a longtime ago, but sitting the b****r down and tell him he's being and a**e, and it really isn't appreciated. Either that or wait for him to have a hot date comming round for the weekend, the night before get all your mates around, eat all his grub leave the fridge empty, the pad in a state and then p*** off for a long weekend kiting. Wot you got to loose, if he doesn't get the message then you'll only be cleaning up after him anyway at least you'll have had a blast!!

Yup me too have been for years, and no issues with service or speed at the moment. It is the future that's at stake here and what they are planning to do that will have all the effects mentioned so far. So the idea is to show them that you're not happy about the direction they're taking by hitting them in the wallet and to show that their customers think its's unacceptible and a bad idea. Which is why I'm in the process of switching providers...have to admit that's a b...ache emails ect. Anyway I've bolloxed on about this for too long.....flogging a dead donkey....no offence meant eeyore:p

in the boot of my car I mainly have... Eolo Radsail 3.5: First kite, first lift and hooked a great kite to start with Buster 1 4m: Got holes and still flying of my best days with this one Pansh Ace 4m & 5m: Mad, bad and fab when tamed Frenzy 05 7 & 10: Power and grace but a bit heavy Trampa on Scrub Skates: Gets my bulk bouncing about the place Peter Lynn Competition: Which I got for a crazy price and not ridden yet

Hummmph ..... so much for my powers of persuasion... Enjoy

Cheers Geoff for grounding the discussion and clarifying the techy bits. That is exactly what Virgin are proposing to do with packets of information that passes through their servers. My analargies were **** anyway… Currently that message has the same opportunity of being viewed or heard as the next message. Obviously it is not enough to just put that message out there, you have to work within the guidelines of the search engines, but it is possible to rise in the rankings of those engines for Free, because everyone has the ability to view that message. OK if companies then are paying for faster message provision then the more they pay the more dominant their position, and also the less us as the “masses” need to be charged. This is great you may say, so more often than not you hook into the cheapest provider. But what you are hooked into then are the messages determined in a back room deal by a pair of suites rather than your free choice of messages. Because sure as eggs is eggs those packets of information once its OK to interfere with them can be blocked, decelerated as well as accelerated. Personally I prefer to pay my dues and have the freedom to choose what I want to view, I enjoy the variety and opportunity that open access provides the small craftsmen and retailers that provide us with colour and non conformity, I like that I can explore what’s going on in the world from my desktop unhindered…..I may not always like what I see but I value that ability to have that vision unimpaired. At the end of the day if users are happy to be corralled towards a money magnet and have their choice of direction controlled then they will buy into, personally I say if it is allowed to start the flood gates will be opened and that will be the end of the last bastion of independent public thought and speech.

yeah apa they are, this all started because a farmer was going to let us use his field and then said he was worried about his subsidy. It just depends how relaxed the farmer is I guess. There is no harm in asking. We're just trying to make it totally stress free. What a downer it would be if the guy got stung because he let you fly.....I am sure it is cool, he wouldn't let you do it otherwise and they're not stupid. Its all about how they class each field. But for sure ask I haven't heard a about farmer yet who is totally unapproachable, if your are polite and respectful........I bet there are a few of you out there who will tell me different. They can only say No.....and as a mate of mine says until they say No the only other answer is Yes. Atmosphere08 report and Mr Ainsworth's office gets in touch....new post. http://freethefields.blogspot.com

I think the point is being missed here. The complaint is not about ISP chargeing for their services for you and I its about controlling what we can view by purposely effecting your viewing experience based purely on how much any site is prepared to pay to the ISP. It's like walking down the street only the opacity of glass in the shopfront's is controlled by some unelected third party. Now you want to look at Racekites shop window and you've also heard that Flexifoil has something equally cool on it. Only Racekites can afford to pay the man controlling glass some more (on top of what they're paying for advertising, and what your're paying for permission to be on the street anyway) than Flexifoil so when you go to Racekites Window the image is crisp, interaction is swift, but when you go to Flexifoils the image is grainy you get 403 errors and you have to wait for info to appear. Now you don't know who's paying your council what 'cos they don't have to declare it or if they do you don't make the choice 'cos of information overload. You're going to be pretty p'd off cos you can't see what you want to see and you've paid to see it. Then if Bertie comes along and sets up his unilateral free server he then charge a premium for the extra vision. Therefore an additional tier to the market has happened, operating on the net is more expensive, and there you have both censorship and an inflationary impact all of which works to your and my detriment and not to the "Man's". Now if that's getting the most of the net, so the few benefit over the many, and information is no longer free we are condeming ourselves to being bent over and done good and proper. Personally that's not a pleasant prospect....

I am happy to pay for access to a network of cables dug out of the ground at much sweat and cost, I'm even happy to pay for the satellites that hopefully will arrive....I agree with profit as a motive. But what I object to is the fact that our free access is in effect censored for no other reason then greed. I haven't noticed a telecoms company issueing any profit's warnings lately have you? Contrary to popular myth Greed is Bad and it doesn't stop once the line has been crossed it accelerates. Which is what will happen when they start charging sites for preferential treatment. The high street will move onto the net and freedom of choice, variety and creativity will suffer as the £1 determines what we can see......oh.....and again good old Mugabe springs to mind along with China, Stalin, the stazzy etc......

Delay due to majorly amazing time being had at A08 Yeah and you'll charge how much..... ...as soon as you restrict supply, demand increases and so does price......oh and yes the answer to the thread about kiters being geeks.....I guess I'm going to have to own up and say yes, I must be.....hmmmmmmm

I would hope so, I know I am, but if everyone else starts doing it then where's the choice gone??

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Probably, have been with them for years. So not sure. But I do know that no matter how fast they say their service is UP to it all depends on the switch station. . Like for me it's only 3.....the wife is happy 'cos she thinks their card's a rip off too.......

That's the beauty of Freedom of information and freedom of choice . I believe you can still put a stop to the process if you feel that's what you want to do.

It's one thing for someone you have a direct relationship with to be impartial based on criteria such as loyalty, freindship etc but quite something else when an unsolicited third party influences that relationship. I would have though a Linux evangelist like yourself would be hopping mad about this. Microsoft or Apple don't stop or slow down the performance of their systems because you'rr running Linux. They provide a choice for the individual, and operate on a level playing field where service, performance and value are key to your experience and their success. Even Google's mantra is "Do No Harm" You buy your 8mb to suite your own personal needs, and expect the service to be the same no matter what YOU want to view or participate in. If ....sorry when...Virginmedia implement this you will pay for 8mb but if they don't have a specail relationship with Flexifoil for example but do with A N Other kite forum then your experience will be diminished if not destroyed and therefore your freedom of choice has been effected. If Virgin do this, without suffering then others will follow suit and then before you know the uniquely free and democratic environment that is the internet will disappear. Let alone the cost of everything will increase again, while a select few get fatter. If you It will be like: Mugabe saying to his opposition and country, go ahead have an election but I'm going to stay in power anyway. Like China saying to Tibet sure practice your religion but your spiritual leader can't live here. Like Gordon Brown sorry Tblair saying sure you have the right to protest but you've got to get approval from the police first. A landowner and a kiter talking about working together and the "man" saying sure but only for 28 day period in two months of the year because kiting is a motorsport. Totally Bogus and fuelled by money and self interest.....Anyway you have a choise stop using Virgin Products and show Virgin and the other ISP's out there that they can't act with impunity or let them get away with it and give it to you good. I am a long time Virgin fan, I worked for Virgin Atlantic, I have a Virgin Card and I use Virgin as and ISP, but Branson's rich enough and planning to start a stampede over your right to Free Access, Free Speech and Free Choice. Well that's all I have to say about that..........

Sorry but I'm my freedom soapbox again.....but this is important it will effect us allif we keep allowing the "man" to give it to us!! I had never heard of Net Neutrality until today....but I saw this video and once I got past the beary guys and listened to what they were saying I was appalled. It's the Fields but way back to the beginning, where once a land owner could do what s/he wanted to with their own land, and then the rich and powerful started fencing them in. It's beginning to happen now on the Internet ( god i hope this isn't a hoax!!) imagine not having the freedom to trade, view or access the sites you want to because someone you are paying for access is controlling what you can see or interact with, based on the size of that sites wallet!! There goes free speech and free choise right there. The new CEO of Virginmedia stated in an interview recently that Net neutrality is a "load of ********!!" and that they are already talking with companies about improving their download speeds over other that will be slow laned!! Anyway watch this vid, see what the beardy guys have got say and then, make your mind up about all things Virgin. http://stopvirgin.movielol.org/ If I wasn't given the fuel I wouldn't be so Angry ...... honest:o

Like Tiny says if everything is backed up, your mate sounds confident. Vundo didn't give you a warning before it installed itself last time. You either live with it or you do something about it....

DON'T HIT REFORMAT . What is the wizard trying to install? If it's a plug in like a mic or something that you know about allow it to continue. If its an external drive run the Vundofix tool on it if you haven't already otherwise it will just come back again. Its a real b****r. I would then rerun on the hard disk if it was detected just incase. If you are confident that all is clean, and you've cleared out your temp files. Then turn your system restore back on and everything should (?!?!) be OK. The keygen is higly likely to be your culprit. Best to avoid small file sizes or ones that are grouped in the same file size, but if you do scan it before you unzip or run the file......

It sounds like you've got a dose of Vundo. Got to vundofix.atribune.org and download the free software and follow the instructions. Then go and get SuperAntispyware.com and run it a few times and that should sort it out. It is a real pain in the A*** because everytime you reboot the pc restores the virus. If you are running a home network you'll need to clean up every PC as it spreads through networked computers. You will also afterards go to your temp files and clean out all the benign **** that it dumps there to soak up your virtual memory. I don't think it has anything to do with RK's troubles tho. Good luck

I know it may be obvious, and I've probably missed it but why are they implementing this ban. Is it for commercial reasons or is it for health and safety or both. Have they made a statement about it? Nice site, form duly filled. All the best, it's a lovely spot.