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Sorry for the late response, have a new job and am working away at the moment..http://www.racekites.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gifhttp://www.racekites.com/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif..it's not over and there's more that we can and are doing for an update on what we're doing and what you may be able to do to help out please go to...... http://www.freethefields.blogspot.com http://www.racekites.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gifCAMERA FRIENDLY, VOCAL FARMERS REQUIRED!!http://www.racekites.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif

Great support .... Petition ends, but the campaign continues...new post http://freethefields.blogspot.com

Last week and Last chance to make your mark.....please show your support sign the petition if you haven't already. Closes 4th June!! http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/safeflyzones/ info @ http://freethefields.blogspot.com

A small step for the CCPR......new post. http://freethefields.blogspot.com

A letter from Defra, all our ducks in a row?.... http://freethefields.blogspot.com

It was a longtime ago, but sitting the b****r down and tell him he's being and a**e, and it really isn't appreciated. Either that or wait for him to have a hot date comming round for the weekend, the night before get all your mates around, eat all his grub leave the fridge empty, the pad in a state and then p*** off for a long weekend kiting. Wot you got to loose, if he doesn't get the message then you'll only be cleaning up after him anyway at least you'll have had a blast!!

Yup me too have been for years, and no issues with service or speed at the moment. It is the future that's at stake here and what they are planning to do that will have all the effects mentioned so far. So the idea is to show them that you're not happy about the direction they're taking by hitting them in the wallet and to show that their customers think its's unacceptible and a bad idea. Which is why I'm in the process of switching providers...have to admit that's a b...ache emails ect. Anyway I've bolloxed on about this for too long.....flogging a dead donkey....no offence meant eeyore:p

in the boot of my car I mainly have... Eolo Radsail 3.5: First kite, first lift and hooked a great kite to start with Buster 1 4m: Got holes and still flying of my best days with this one Pansh Ace 4m & 5m: Mad, bad and fab when tamed Frenzy 05 7 & 10: Power and grace but a bit heavy Trampa on Scrub Skates: Gets my bulk bouncing about the place Peter Lynn Competition: Which I got for a crazy price and not ridden yet

Hummmph ..... so much for my powers of persuasion... Enjoy

Cheers Geoff for grounding the discussion and clarifying the techy bits. That is exactly what Virgin are proposing to do with packets of information that passes through their servers. My analargies were **** anyway… Currently that message has the same opportunity of being viewed or heard as the next message. Obviously it is not enough to just put that message out there, you have to work within the guidelines of the search engines, but it is possible to rise in the rankings of those engines for Free, because everyone has the ability to view that message. OK if companies then are paying for faster message provision then the more they pay the more dominant their position, and also the less us as the “masses” need to be charged. This is great you may say, so more often than not you hook into the cheapest provider. But what you are hooked into then are the messages determined in a back room deal by a pair of suites rather than your free choice of messages. Because sure as eggs is eggs those packets of information once its OK to interfere with them can be blocked, decelerated as well as accelerated. Personally I prefer to pay my dues and have the freedom to choose what I want to view, I enjoy the variety and opportunity that open access provides the small craftsmen and retailers that provide us with colour and non conformity, I like that I can explore what’s going on in the world from my desktop unhindered…..I may not always like what I see but I value that ability to have that vision unimpaired. At the end of the day if users are happy to be corralled towards a money magnet and have their choice of direction controlled then they will buy into, personally I say if it is allowed to start the flood gates will be opened and that will be the end of the last bastion of independent public thought and speech.

yeah apa they are, this all started because a farmer was going to let us use his field and then said he was worried about his subsidy. It just depends how relaxed the farmer is I guess. There is no harm in asking. We're just trying to make it totally stress free. What a downer it would be if the guy got stung because he let you fly.....I am sure it is cool, he wouldn't let you do it otherwise and they're not stupid. Its all about how they class each field. But for sure ask I haven't heard a about farmer yet who is totally unapproachable, if your are polite and respectful........I bet there are a few of you out there who will tell me different. They can only say No.....and as a mate of mine says until they say No the only other answer is Yes. Atmosphere08 report and Mr Ainsworth's office gets in touch....new post. http://freethefields.blogspot.com

I think the point is being missed here. The complaint is not about ISP chargeing for their services for you and I its about controlling what we can view by purposely effecting your viewing experience based purely on how much any site is prepared to pay to the ISP. It's like walking down the street only the opacity of glass in the shopfront's is controlled by some unelected third party. Now you want to look at Racekites shop window and you've also heard that Flexifoil has something equally cool on it. Only Racekites can afford to pay the man controlling glass some more (on top of what they're paying for advertising, and what your're paying for permission to be on the street anyway) than Flexifoil so when you go to Racekites Window the image is crisp, interaction is swift, but when you go to Flexifoils the image is grainy you get 403 errors and you have to wait for info to appear. Now you don't know who's paying your council what 'cos they don't have to declare it or if they do you don't make the choice 'cos of information overload. You're going to be pretty p'd off cos you can't see what you want to see and you've paid to see it. Then if Bertie comes along and sets up his unilateral free server he then charge a premium for the extra vision. Therefore an additional tier to the market has happened, operating on the net is more expensive, and there you have both censorship and an inflationary impact all of which works to your and my detriment and not to the "Man's". Now if that's getting the most of the net, so the few benefit over the many, and information is no longer free we are condeming ourselves to being bent over and done good and proper. Personally that's not a pleasant prospect....

I am happy to pay for access to a network of cables dug out of the ground at much sweat and cost, I'm even happy to pay for the satellites that hopefully will arrive....I agree with profit as a motive. But what I object to is the fact that our free access is in effect censored for no other reason then greed. I haven't noticed a telecoms company issueing any profit's warnings lately have you? Contrary to popular myth Greed is Bad and it doesn't stop once the line has been crossed it accelerates. Which is what will happen when they start charging sites for preferential treatment. The high street will move onto the net and freedom of choice, variety and creativity will suffer as the £1 determines what we can see......oh.....and again good old Mugabe springs to mind along with China, Stalin, the stazzy etc......

Delay due to majorly amazing time being had at A08 Yeah and you'll charge how much..... ...as soon as you restrict supply, demand increases and so does price......oh and yes the answer to the thread about kiters being geeks.....I guess I'm going to have to own up and say yes, I must be.....hmmmmmmm

I would hope so, I know I am, but if everyone else starts doing it then where's the choice gone??