avspider Posted March 11, 2008 Report Posted March 11, 2008 SO what are my options, we fly locally at 3-4 different sites, couple of times a yr at westward ho, and must cover me for the supercup racing. Which insurance is best? Tesco's I know you Welsh lot are using Tesco's, but does it cover me when i'm flying at my local spot? Quote
skye Posted March 11, 2008 Author Report Posted March 11, 2008 I joined the BPKA to get insurance. Wallop was an added bonus. Seems like some people joined the other way round. :confused: tbh for me its like shopping for any insurance, you check who has the best deal out of all the company's. In previous years the Wallop/ wroughton fest's have made it a no brainer, and ive overlooked the fact that in the past 5 years even though i fuill in the applic form correctly they have spelt my name wrong on the card (EVERY YEAR!!!), sent it to the wrong address and other such annoying things. However, now things have changed, and although im grateful for all the fun times i am after all a consumer. SWATK offer me similar insurance but with them i also get to use some of the semi local beaches and affilate myself with a group who i know are working hard in my part of the country (even if they do have a habit of sitting in them bloody huge buggys in the middle of the beach!!! grrr). I think previously BBC, as was, have had a hold over the market because of these festivals, and lets face it an open market is never a bad thing, Maybe another gropup who have more time on their hands as mell is obviously so busy, will be able to do more for the sport when they have more members to give them more support. Quote
Kiteboyza Posted March 11, 2008 Report Posted March 11, 2008 Tesco's I know you Welsh lot are using Tesco's, but does it cover me when i'm flying at my local spot? It works on Pembrey, Pendine, Aberavon & Westward Ho and you get Tesco points...points make Port Quote
jordan_aryan Posted March 11, 2008 Report Posted March 11, 2008 For me, BKSA. simply because i can pay online. no cheques...no hassle. its a Naive approach, but who the hell only accepts cheques in this day and age? i was considering going to wallop this year, and would have paid for cover, but .....no show no dough. Quote
GORILLA Posted March 11, 2008 Report Posted March 11, 2008 i was considering going to wallop this year, and would have paid for cover, but .....no show no dough. O bo11ocks looks your kites ain't coming out this year now then:rolleyes: Quote
jaffa_cake Posted March 11, 2008 Report Posted March 11, 2008 i need to up date my'n soon as it run out firday:p i got BPKA for last year wallop and now wallop not on i dont no if to update it £15 ent a lots ( when me mom pay it ) so i think i'l up date my'n soon as the one thing i dont like a about BPKA is how long it take them to do the cards they should be a lot fast Quote
LichRich Posted March 11, 2008 Report Posted March 11, 2008 Maybe another gropup who have more time on their hands as mell is obviously so busy, will be able to do more for the sport when they have more members to give them more support. Snipe, snipe, snipe - and thats not aimed solely at you. How about you organise an event for us then? Sure a few of us have the Spring Bank Holiday weekend blocked out in our diaries:rolleyes: FFS its the first time in how many years there hasn't been a Wallop? Okay, I'm gutted, have turned away £££'s of work for the bank holiday weekend but knew the event wasn't guaranteed to be on but was worth the risk cos Wallop is Wallop. Griping about £15 insurance? What other insurance for anything can you get for £15. If you're struggling that much I'll send you a food parcel - I'm great at posting eggs as Morb will confirm Quote
jaffa_cake Posted March 11, 2008 Report Posted March 11, 2008 Maybe another gropup who have more time on their hands as mell is obviously so busy, will be able to do more for the sport when they have more members to give them more support. Snipe, snipe, snipe - and thats not aimed solely at you. How about you organise an event for us then? Sure a few of us have the Spring Bank Holiday weekend blocked out in our diaries:rolleyes: FFS its the first time in how many years there hasn't been a Wallop? Okay, I'm gutted, have turned away £££'s of work for the bank holiday weekend but knew the event wasn't guaranteed to be on but was worth the risk cos Wallop is Wallop. Griping about £15 insurance? What other insurance for anything can you get for £15. If you're struggling that much I'll send you a food parcel - I'm great at posting eggs as Morb will confirm u must be lol my'n never got there Quote
crut Posted March 11, 2008 Report Posted March 11, 2008 This whole thread is based upon people throwing their toys out of their pram. As LichRich says, it is £15 quid. A meal and a couple of pints at the pub. There is no wallop? Go to the other numerous events out there like the Extremekitehsop, Airboss, Atmosphere events (where you still need insurance). Quote
jude Posted March 11, 2008 Report Posted March 11, 2008 This whole thread is based upon people throwing their toys out of their pram. As LichRich says, it is £15 quid. A meal and a couple of pints at the pub. There is no wallop? Go to the other numerous events out there like the Extremekitehsop, Airboss, Atmosphere events (where you still need insurance). and ........Just Add Wind 14th and 15th of June Quote
skye Posted March 12, 2008 Author Report Posted March 12, 2008 Maybe another gropup who have more time on their hands as mell is obviously so busy, will be able to do more for the sport when they have more members to give them more support. Snipe, snipe, snipe - and thats not aimed solely at you. How about you organise an event for us then? Sure a few of us have the Spring Bank Holiday weekend blocked out in our diaries:rolleyes: FFS its the first time in how many years there hasn't been a Wallop? Okay, I'm gutted, have turned away £££'s of work for the bank holiday weekend but knew the event wasn't guaranteed to be on but was worth the risk cos Wallop is Wallop. Griping about £15 insurance? What other insurance for anything can you get for £15. If you're struggling that much I'll send you a food parcel - I'm great at posting eggs as Morb will confirm tsk so serious all of a sudden.... lol i think you misunderstand me sir, no sniping here, i have always got on fine with the bbc as ive always seen them as the only option, but now theyre not i think the future might be interesting. Furthermore contemplating my options for insurance is healthy, how many fliers will now let their insurance lapse as theres no wallop to force them to remember to sign the cheque? I dont think anyone here is griping about spending 15 quid, in fact they are just investingating the options and maybe be will to pay more if their are other benefits. Much as i would love to go back 5 years to when the beaches were empty and the kiting community was of a size most things seemed to exist with a greater percentage of goodwill the truth is its now grown and there are options.... (skye who is and will remain bpka until may when she will ring round and see who gives her the best quote ) Quote
Afro1599968737 Posted March 12, 2008 Report Posted March 12, 2008 skye who is and will remain bpka until may when she will ring round and see who gives her the best quote lol confused-kites.com ? comparethekitemarket.com ? Quote
noserider Posted March 12, 2008 Report Posted March 12, 2008 I think its a fair question to ask about insurance options. I also think its fair for people to ask what The BPKA & the BKSA do to promote the land side of things. Its also fair to be dissapointed that Wallop isn't on. I'm sure by Wallop being cancelled people will let their membership lapse and fly without it. Wallop is a world Class event that will be very much missed this year. Whats worrying is that more and more events seems to dissapear. We have seen numerous national events come and go over the past 3 or 4 years. Wallop was always a stable shoe in for the calendar. Hopefully its only lost for 2008. Come on Wallop 2009 - lets hope its bigger and better. Quote
Frakke1599968664 Posted March 12, 2008 Report Posted March 12, 2008 Hopefully its only lost for 2008. Come on Wallop 2009 - lets hope its bigger and better. I'd be happy if it was just Wallop 2009 I have BBC/BPKA for a couple of reasons (1) It covers me for my local spot (2) It covers me for the Ho! (my "local" beach) (3) It's valid in most other places without prior arrangement (unlike SWATK - but please correct me if I'm wrong) (4) IT IS ONLY £15 - and it works (I know on that score:o ) F (and I just renewed it regardless of Wallop) Quote
Sparhawk Posted March 12, 2008 Report Posted March 12, 2008 (3) It's valid in most other places without prior arrangement (unlike SWATK - but please correct me if I'm wrong) (4) IT IS ONLY £15 - and it works (I know on that score:o ) SWATK members have recently voted for a change in Insurance policy which negates the need for prior arrangement. There are still restrictions as to useage, but nowhere near as onerous as they once were. And this year we got 18 months coverage for £18.50 (I think) Just to bring us inline with a Jan - Dec Cover rather than the June/July date we did have. Info only, I wont be debating this. Quote
rayens Posted March 12, 2008 Report Posted March 12, 2008 I personally think its a shame that there is no Wallop this year - its part of the Kiting calendar that we have all relied on over the years. So lets hope it gets sorted for next year Frakke - SWATK insurance has changed and you no longer need to notify anyone in advance plus it now covers a lot more things. BUT - the SWATK insurance comes as part of club membership and is only a small part of what you get - we run race series,freestyle comps, training days, events, big social meets have access to restricted sites. We are not about selling insurance - its only a small part of your membership so dont class us along side BPKA as we both do different things Quote
KermitStu Posted March 12, 2008 Report Posted March 12, 2008 , how many fliers will now let their insurance lapse as theres no wallop to force them to remember to sign the cheque? pmsl its the only reason i remembered to renue my insurence and is no matter what anyone says there biggest selling point now that is gone for what ever reason they need to relise that it may and most proberly will have an affect on there numbers. i belive wallop never used to be run by flexi or bpka/bbc so why cant we go back to those days ? is there a reason for neededing the big organizations its nice to here they are still thinking of doing one later on though:) Quote
tom1599968574 Posted March 12, 2008 Report Posted March 12, 2008 I only paid 15 quid to the bbc to go to wallop no way am i using their insurance. My issue with their insurance is they dont have a clue what it covers. Everyone seems happy they have a card that says theyre insured - Im really really dubious they actually are and frankly, that worries me! Kitewing is a higher risk catergory sport than kites, fact. I was intrigued when the bbc claimed they insured them. It actually turned out what mell meant when he said they did cover them [AT THE TIME] was they were in the process of submitting a risk assesment. Ok, breezing over the fact they were telling us we were covered when we wernt, i wanted to know how they were covering a riskier sport with no cost increase. From my conversations, it seems Mell doesnt know and cannot tell me any details of what it does and does not cover. Funny that. My old insurance can tell me everything about the sport and what is and isnt covered. Why cant the bbc?! Cant be arsed or just incompetant?! I remember similar discussions on here regarding their kite insurance. No one seems to know and they cant tell us! If i hit someone a 50mph, i want to know its not going to bite me in the ass and with the bbc, i really cant be sure...so with no wallop, they def arent getting my renewal! Im not even going for their total lack of communication with their members. They might be doing a lot for the sport behind the scenes, but the way they deal with their members frankly scares me. If a big accident did happen and their insurance is shaky, the implications would be massive. Quote
Zotty Posted March 12, 2008 Report Posted March 12, 2008 Im really really dubious they actually are (4) IT IS ONLY £15 - and it works (I know on that score:o ) in a nut shell ,, it does,,, he knows it,,, i knows it,,, now you all knows it.. (as for kitewings.. dunno dude) Quote
skye Posted March 12, 2008 Author Report Posted March 12, 2008 right lets get back on track: We all know we need insurance. Some believe in bpka some feel mistreated by them. BUT What are the other options? Quote
Sparhawk Posted March 12, 2008 Report Posted March 12, 2008 Water only = BKSA. ( no good if you wanna carry on Landboarding) more than just an insurance provider = SWATK. Insurance and Wallop / Wroughton when they can. = BPKA SportsCover Direct. = Just insurance (and chuffin expensive) I think thats about it. I have left out certain "other" clubs as these only allow you to fly at certain sites, (example Hoylake and CLSC) Quote
The Flyin Scotsman Posted March 12, 2008 Report Posted March 12, 2008 SPKA: Supporting and organising Scottish events and providing insurance. Also recognised by the BPKA for wallop and suchlike. And at SPKA events all insurances are recognised. Kev Quote
Bear1599968730 Posted March 12, 2008 Report Posted March 12, 2008 Water only = BKSA. ( no good if you wanna carry on Landboarding) Taken from http://www.britishkitesurfingassociation.co.uk/content/blogcategory/14/33/ Cover - flying any kite on water or land, kitesurfing, kitelandboarding , snowkiting, buggying and powerkiting Quote
Sparhawk Posted March 12, 2008 Report Posted March 12, 2008 Water only = BKSA. ( no good if you wanna carry on Landboarding) Taken from http://www.britishkitesurfingassociation.co.uk/content/blogcategory/14/33/ Cover - flying any kite on water or land, kitesurfing, kitelandboarding , snowkiting, buggying and powerkiting My apologies Bear, I got that one spectacularly wrong did nt I? Quote
Bear1599968730 Posted March 12, 2008 Report Posted March 12, 2008 My apologies Bear, I got that one spectacularly wrong did nt I? No worries dude, your post made me double check as I have BKSA and landboard Quote
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