aworm Posted May 27, 2005 Report Posted May 27, 2005 From July 1st Sefton council will be issuing permits for kite surfing at Ainsdale.To obtain a permit you must be a member of the Ainsdale on Sea Kite surf club and hold current BKSA insurance. You will also need to obtain a club rashie and wear it at all times on the water, as this will be used to indicate to the Rangers that you are a bona fide member of the club. Permits will be free this year and the costs of the vest are yet to be confirmed. Helmets will also be compulsory Quote
ShapeShifter Posted May 27, 2005 Report Posted May 27, 2005 Andy - I have contacts for Rashies. Let me know and I will divulge. C'mon people - preserve your right to ride and work with the council on this one. They do have our interests at heart in addition to those of the Ainsdale Environnment. Regds. Ron. From July 1st Sefton council will be issuing permits for kite surfing at Ainsdale.To obtain a permit you must be a member of the Ainsdale on Sea Kite surf club and hold current BKSA insurance. You will also need to obtain a club rashie and wear it at all times on the water, as this will be used to indicate to the Rangers that you are a bona fide member of the club. Permits will be free this year and the costs of the vest are yet to be confirmed. Helmets will also be compulsory Quote
Bobby Posted May 27, 2005 Report Posted May 27, 2005 Think this is a great idea - well done to the Ainsdale Kite Surfers for working with Sefton on this one. Just joined the BKSA+Ainsdale club and sent off the declaration form. The BKSA site is so easy to use and the 'join a club option', a great idea . Quote
aworm Posted May 27, 2005 Author Report Posted May 27, 2005 Cheers Ron .Have a contact through Phil at Hayling too.See you over the weekend Bobby-thanks for the support Quote
ShapeShifter Posted May 27, 2005 Report Posted May 27, 2005 We must compare prices Andy.... Cheers Ron .Have a contact through Phil at Hayling too.See you over the weekend Bobby-thanks for the support Quote
DARKSIDE1599968628 Posted May 29, 2005 Report Posted May 29, 2005 How do you go about joining,Ainsdale on Sea Kiting club.I dont go there often ,but I would like to preserve the option of sailing there.CHEERS. Quote
Dechoff Posted May 29, 2005 Report Posted May 29, 2005 How do you go about joining,Ainsdale on Sea Kiting club.I dont go there often ,but I would like to preserve the option of sailing there.CHEERS. Hey Darkside, Look on the BKSA website. You join them and then chose your club for an extra £5. £35 for the year. I just did it myself and stuck Ainsdale down as my club. Getting lesson next week from Scotty. Looks like your from the Wirral same as me. atb Paul Quote
DARKSIDE1599968628 Posted May 29, 2005 Report Posted May 29, 2005 Hi Dechoff,I live at West Kirby,but when there's no tide i'll travel to Ainsdale or Angelsey. Thanks for the Info:D Quote
Dechoff Posted May 29, 2005 Report Posted May 29, 2005 Hi Dechoff,I live at West Kirby,but when there's no tide i'll travel to Ainsdale or Angelsey. Thanks for the Info:D Hey Mate, I live up in Oxton. Been buggying for a few years mainly at Hoylake, use Ainsdale sometimes as well.....Have decided that I now want to learn to Kite Surf as well. Can't just buggy all the time, need another outlet. I was thiniking along much the same lines. West Kirby, Ainsdale, North Wales& Anglesey. People just don't realise what a great place Wirral is to live! Well have to hook up sometime once I've got my lessons outa the way. atb Paul Quote
the_lone_wolf Posted May 29, 2005 Report Posted May 29, 2005 So no visitors? Jon Jon, this might seem a bit random but you ought come to the island this summer to kitesurf. we are lucky not to have any of the club or council BS that other folks have to deal with and it can't be that far to drive from oxford, perhaps bring ted or a few others for a weekend? (i used to do worcestershire to the island twice a week a while back, i seem to remember oxford being a couple of hours from the ferry at portsmouth). anyway, re: ainsdale - good luck keeping the beach open:) Quote
kitesurfa Posted May 29, 2005 Report Posted May 29, 2005 Think this is a great idea - well done to the Ainsdale Kite Surfers for working with Sefton on this one. Was the BKSA involved with council negotiations... If not WHY not... 'great idea' - only because you are a local. Quote
aworm Posted May 29, 2005 Author Report Posted May 29, 2005 Alan , the Ainsdale club is BKSA recognised so locally the answer is yes... but so what? We have a positive council wanting to promote the sport not ban it. What's the issue with Bobby being local? You are as welcome to join as he is(ever been to Ainsdale?) and would spend more than the membership fee getting here. Dave for anyone with current BKSA memebership we will able to sort club membership out locally until it's time to renew via the BKSA. The Discovery Centre is where you will have to get your permit(NOT avail before July). Spooky yes day visitors will be welcome but will have to join the club and we will look into loaning a rashie for the day if you don't want to buy one(deposit required!) Quote
ShapeShifter Posted May 30, 2005 Report Posted May 30, 2005 Another issue needs to be addressed at ainsdale - Glass. If anyone see's glass on the bech - drop the kite and please bring it up and bin it - its only a matter of time before a hospital trip will occur. I spotted 4 big sharp nasties in the sand yesterday and brought back at least 2. Laters. Ron. Quote
kitesurfa Posted May 30, 2005 Report Posted May 30, 2005 Alan , the Ainsdale club is BKSA recognised so locally the answer is yes... but so what? We have a positive council wanting to promote the sport not ban it. The point is 'locally'... why not in the interest of everybody not just the few. What's the issue with Bobby being local? You are as welcome to join as he is(ever been to Ainsdale?) and would spend more than the membership fee getting here. The issue is being local. If Ainsdale was my local beach I too would be happy to join. BUT, I am thinking of all BKSA members who may wish to visit maybe once or twice a year. If you were not local to the beach concerned how many so called beach clubs would be be prepared to join, at £10 a go just to use it once or twice a year. having already got Insurance and BKSA membership. As I have posted in the past... If you have to join a club after already joining BKSA then it should mean you join them all. See me previous posts. Spooky yes day visitors will be welcome but will have to join the club and we will look into loaning a rashie for the day if you don't want to buy one(deposit required!) Thats not what a day vistor means... a 'day visitor' means non club members. Quote
needakite mike Posted May 30, 2005 Report Posted May 30, 2005 I am quite confused i have bbc insurance will i have to change to bksa and also if i have to do this this means that i have to get seperate insurance for land use and join the task kite club this means that insted of 15 quid a year i will have to pay 70 quid just to kite at ainsdale Quote
markarse Posted May 30, 2005 Report Posted May 30, 2005 I am quite confused i have bbc insurance will i have to change to bksa and also if i have to do this this means that i have to get seperate insurance for land use and join the task kite club this means that insted of 15 quid a year i will have to pay 70 quid just to kite at ainsdale Joining the BKSA gives you insurance with the PKSA (which I believe is the same as the BBC). This insurance covers you for ALL kite sports be they land- or water-based. Reading the posts above it looks like you will have to be a member of the BKSA AND the club in question - total cost £35 / year. This will allow you to kite at Ainsdale and still ensure that you are insured to kite elsewhere. Quote
kitesurfa Posted May 30, 2005 Report Posted May 30, 2005 Joining the BKSA gives you insurance with the PKSA (which I believe is the same as the BBC). This insurance covers you for ALL kite sports be they land- or water-based. Reading the posts above it looks like you will have to be a member of the BKSA AND the club in question - total cost £35 / year. This will allow you to kite at Ainsdale and still ensure that you are insured to kite elsewhere. Yes, but only to Kitesurf at Ainsdale, if you want to Board or Buggy its a different club and FED insurance, BBC/BKSA insurance is not valid on the beach (though it now looks like you can still use it for 2005 http://www.wenpet.fsnet.co.uk/kitebeach/ ) - All the local buggiers saw to that. Quote
aworm Posted May 30, 2005 Author Report Posted May 30, 2005 Mike yes you will have to join both clubs and as I understand it the PKSF insurance will continue to be valid for buggying at Ainsdale. What you will need is a responsible adult accompanying you when there. Quote
needakite mike Posted May 31, 2005 Report Posted May 31, 2005 what about kitesurfing will i need a adult then Quote
aworm Posted May 31, 2005 Author Report Posted May 31, 2005 Mike yes you will need an adult.One of the conditions of permit issue is that 'no person under the age of 16 years to kite surf without a responsible adult in attendance' That means someone specifically there to look after your welfare Quote
muppetdude1 Posted May 31, 2005 Report Posted May 31, 2005 ayup wiggly worm......its a shame its come to this but i guess youre protecting the long term access so all the best.... whats the water quality like at moment? yesteray at south shore i have NEVER seen such disgusting quality in 16 years on the water locally! Quote
Airpowerd Posted May 31, 2005 Report Posted May 31, 2005 won't be long before somebody owns a stretch of water and charges for daily use :-(, bksa membership should mean bksa access imho Quote
aworm Posted May 31, 2005 Author Report Posted May 31, 2005 Matt it's being pushed by the council- as Ainsdale gets promoted as Kitebeach they want to make sure it's all managed properly as I would if my job/neck was on the line. Shame so many seem to think that beaches aren't managed by local councils with responsibilites to the users. The beach gets a pass on the goodbeachguide website for water quality.....as does Blackpool, but as we know the rain drags it down quickly. Airpowered how much would you be prepared to pay to join the BKSA so that you could sail anywhere £100? £200? Quote
kevob Posted May 31, 2005 Report Posted May 31, 2005 andy- what have i got to do to join see you? is there a family membership as ive got 3 to pay for? are you doing armbands aswell as rashvests as was discused earlier in the year? would much prefer that:) Quote
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