rickgi Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 For those times when I find myself overpowered and don't have strength to pull kite from roller on harness, is there any method to provide for a quick release?? Thanks Rick G Quote
anc Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 usually when you really need to unhook yourself from the kite and remember that oh I got a quick release, it is already too late:p maybe when you get dragged around the beach that would work but in midair you don´t have time to pull somekind of a quick release strap or something like that. Quote
kitemadgoth Posted October 17, 2003 Report Posted October 17, 2003 ive started carrying a seatbelt cutter just in case then if needs be ill just cut the lines id rather buy new lines than loose limbs or poss my life Quote
8015 Posted October 17, 2003 Report Posted October 17, 2003 Flydad has a system he will be trying out at Hoylake. Basically a normal fixed pulley attached to his harness via a quick release hook. - the pulley will stay with the strop. Not sure how well it will work, but if considering this sort of thing make the tail on the quick release long enough to grab easily - try putting a plastic ball on the end as well to make it easy to get hold of. Another option is the sort of camming buckle you get on buoyancy aids attached to the hook by a piece of seatbelt, with the pulley on another bit of seatbelt that threads through the buckle ready to release. These systems are for when you want to prevent accidently slipping off the roller but still need an escape method - for what you are asking this is a bit extreme, but given time you'll be asking in that way :-) Possible solutions for using on a normal roller: Maybe a strop with one end not looped passing through a cam cleat at one handle. Or just use a highwaymans hitch to tie an unlooped end to the handle? JIM Quote
anc Posted October 17, 2003 Report Posted October 17, 2003 kitemadgoth, where do you keep the cutter? Quote
kitemadgoth Posted October 25, 2003 Report Posted October 25, 2003 just at the side of my harness i stitched a holder on to it and it sits in there ready for use if i need it Quote
mee Posted October 26, 2003 Report Posted October 26, 2003 A quick release is esential when ever you are hooked in. As for, it is not possible to unhook mid air, rubbish. The very idea of the QR is to punch out in those first few tenths of a second where you feel out of control. If your reactions are so slow that you can not use a QR then you really should not be flying a larger kite. A good univeral QR is the snap shackle but on a roller bar may not be suitable.The other method would be to use an Ozone or similar QR chicken loop. This system can be used on either the end of a center line(depower rig)or on a harness strop connected between handles. The chicken loop is hooked onto the roller and attatched via a strop to the handles. When the red release loop is pulled and handles let go of your safety leash will kick in. Quote
iancl1599968601 Posted October 26, 2003 Report Posted October 26, 2003 Don't know how it works but pro-limit harnesses have quick release. Seeing as this is in the Buggying section I assume you're using handles. In which case it would probably be quicker to pull the handles towards you, pulling harness line from the pulley and then letting go than to reach for a quick release. Ian Quote
Guest Nevermind Posted October 26, 2003 Report Posted October 26, 2003 its not the best and the piston release can fail but hasn't on me yet. http://www.eccentrix.com/members/sparkworld/craig-release.jpg http://www.eccentrix.com/members/sparkworld/craigrelease2.jpg http://www.eccentrix.com/members/sparkworld/craigrelease3jpg.jpg also i am going to get a relese made my someone called bob cogman it lokks like this and use it insted of the piston release. the realease can release under all kite loads easily http://www.eccentrix.com/members/sparkworld/File0002.jpg Quote
sigo Posted October 26, 2003 Report Posted October 26, 2003 Hi where did you get your pulley / block from? Your set up looks pretty good;) si Quote
rickgi Posted October 26, 2003 Author Report Posted October 26, 2003 Iancl: The whole point of a quick release is for those times when it is not possible to pull the handles back, due to abrupt wind increases,etc. I have been in this situation a few times, it's a bit scary. One can turn down wind to ease the tension, but it takes composure and experience, something one doesn't always have. Rick G Quote
Guest Nevermind Posted October 26, 2003 Report Posted October 26, 2003 it is a snatch block igot it fom boats'n'bits in norwich. http://www.boatsnbits.com the model is a holt allen 40mm snatch block which all good boat chanderlery should b e able to get batc Quote
hasbin acharlie Posted October 27, 2003 Report Posted October 27, 2003 very strange this thread........ didnt no one see my thread the other day " wot do i need " strangly enough it was all about " captive harness" theres pics n all sorts in there even the advice of those that recomend wot type of quick release to use and the reasons for it...... the pictures are on the second page of the link that was posted if your interested? have a look here Quote
Tobz Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 I've been using a Quadrafoil harness which makes for 'interesting' situations when the kites powered up and on the brink of going out of control - once its wet and sandy, slipping the loop off of the capstan to release the strop is nigh-on impossible... Bloody furrow time once again... I've found myself wondering about a quick release for handles time and time again Quote
anc Posted October 29, 2003 Report Posted October 29, 2003 If you don't have a quick release, is it possible to collapse the kite on purpose? I have done it a few times with my c-quad but I´m not sure how I did it. my c-quad sometimes falls out the sky when I suddenly pull one line hard and run downwind. this helped me the last time when I got very overpowered. but what about foils? can you collapse them? Quote
richardyeo Posted October 30, 2003 Report Posted October 30, 2003 I have used a quick release shackle on my system, which was ok, but my newest kite (Advance Offroad) comes with a very neat release. On kites with bar systems like the Offroad and most surf kites, you need a release, as you are connected permanently to the kite.. When on handles I don't use the shackle system anymore, as it just added one more string to the system, and realistically, it is much simpler to just un-hook from the harness. I have the Q harness, and one of the rollers is much easier to unclip from than the other (it has a smaller flange). However I am surprised that there are people who have the strength the fly the kites, but can't lift their own weight on two arms to unhook ! For the record, I used a shackle like the ones at http://www.diverssupplyinc.net/browse.cfm/4,1170.html There is more good info at http://www.maui.net/~hotwind/quick.html and http://www.zblob.com/kite/kitebar.html Quote
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