JohnDave Posted January 17, 2010 Report Posted January 17, 2010 Just got the drawings back from the Architect for some house changes, and he's now only got 1 door between the kitchen and toilet. It's not directly off, but round the corner and under the stairs, but still only 1 door. I'll ask him about it during the week, but if in doubt then the forums will have some opinions So, do you need 2 doors between the kitchen and toilet or is this an urban myth? Thanks experts Quote
wenglish Posted January 17, 2010 Report Posted January 17, 2010 Down here a lot of houses have downstairs bathrooms that you can only get to through the kitchen and there is only one door, infact the door in one house i know is just next to the sink, effectivaly you can sit in the bath watching the hob lol these are old houses though Quote
Bigbud Posted January 17, 2010 Report Posted January 17, 2010 Is it mechanically vented ? I.e. extraction fan Fairly sure you are supposed to have two or use an extraction fan, can check later in the week for you Quote
Farno Posted January 17, 2010 Report Posted January 17, 2010 My place was built with the ark, down stairs bathroom, one door, but a vestibule area inbetween. Quote
JohnDave Posted January 17, 2010 Author Report Posted January 17, 2010 Down here a lot of houses have downstairs bathrooms that you can only get to through the kitchen and there is only one door, infact the door in one house i know is just next to the sink, effectivaly you can sit in the bath watching the hob lol these are old houses though Yep, could be allowed in older houses but some new fangled rules in place now? Is it mechanically vented ? I.e. extraction fan Fairly sure you are supposed to have two or use an extraction fan, can check later in the week for you Good point, I'll make sure there's an extractor in there, don't want any dump smells in my cooking! Don't go to any trouble, I'll have a proper answer during the week. Just thought there would be a plethora of answers from the combined knowledge of the forums and some interesting thoughts to consider. Quote
braddels Posted January 17, 2010 Report Posted January 17, 2010 well we only have one door in my house and my house in only 4 years old Quote
Stompin Badger Posted January 17, 2010 Report Posted January 17, 2010 The regs changed years ago your ok to have one door, ask your architect but he'll tell you the same. Just got the drawings back from the Architect for some house changes, and he's now only got 1 door between the kitchen and toilet. It's not directly off, but round the corner and under the stairs, but still only 1 door. I'll ask him about it during the week, but if in doubt then the forums will have some opinions So, do you need 2 doors between the kitchen and toilet or is this an urban myth? Thanks experts Quote
Stompin Badger Posted January 17, 2010 Report Posted January 17, 2010 I had to fit an on suite in a bed room once & the Guy wanted an arch way in to his bedroom he insisted. Imagine having a S**te in your bedroom. Quote
JohnDave Posted January 17, 2010 Author Report Posted January 17, 2010 I had to fit an on suite in a bed room once & the Guy wanted an arch way in to his bedroom he insisted. Imagine having a S**te in your bedroom. We're having an ensuite put in too. I don't think I'll be allowed to dump in there no matter if there is a door or an arch way! Quote
lucie8uk Posted January 18, 2010 Report Posted January 18, 2010 I work in planning. A building control officer walked past as I was reading this. So I asked him and he said a single door is fine, provided you have adequate ventilation. My invoice is in the post Quote
abba Posted January 18, 2010 Report Posted January 18, 2010 (edited) provide ventilation... for example when you turn the light on the fan kicks in... or turns on after the light is switched off the architect should know the building regs fairly well tbh i have easy access to all the approved docs... and willing to let you have a browse through... pretty sure you'll want Document F - Ventilation something like a 15l/sec extractor would be fine... dependant on the size Edited January 18, 2010 by abba Quote
nudge1599968719 Posted January 18, 2010 Report Posted January 18, 2010 I have 1 door on my downstairs toilet with a fan attached to the light. Was added about 4 years ago Quote
Ped Posted January 18, 2010 Report Posted January 18, 2010 (edited) pretty sure you'll want Document F - Ventilation Part F abba??? how old are your building regulations? It hasn't been refferred to as Part F for near 5 years now!!! Think you want Section 3.14.2 of the Domestic Handbook;) Ped:D Edited January 18, 2010 by Ped Quote
lunaloco Posted January 18, 2010 Report Posted January 18, 2010 if you use a mechanical ventilation system, the last points of extraction should be the most humid rooms in the house, begin the bathroom and the kitchen. So it will first extract the fumes from your toilet before passing by your kitchen. So far for not having dump smells in your cooking Well not if it all works properly obviously ... Quote
etchy6 Posted January 18, 2010 Report Posted January 18, 2010 out toilet has one door between it and the kitchen... the toilet door is right at the edge of the kitchen arch way... Quote
abba Posted January 18, 2010 Report Posted January 18, 2010 Part F abba??? how old are your building regulations? It hasn't been refferred to as Part F for near 5 years now!!! Think you want Section 3.14.2 of the Domestic Handbook;) Ped:D http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/england/professionals/buildingregs/technicalguidance/bcapproveddocumentslist/ Planning Portal - Approved Document F Quote
PaulLaurie Posted January 21, 2010 Report Posted January 21, 2010 Mate of mine lives in a house less than 6 months old and his downstairs loo is 1 door off the kitchen. There were all sorts of regs. it has to conform too like doors wide enough for wheel chairs, all have to close on springs for fire regs. (pain in the arse he reckons so lots of door stops in use) . I should emagine that the 1 door is ok then. Quote
Spyke Posted January 21, 2010 Report Posted January 21, 2010 I thought it was only in commercial places like resturants, shops etc that were governed by any rules? :s Quote
Ped Posted January 21, 2010 Report Posted January 21, 2010 I thought it was only in commercial places like resturants, shops etc that were governed by any rules? :s Nope there's 2 sets of building regs out there - Domestic and Non-Domestic. You're right tho that in a non domestic building you require a min of 2 door seperation between a wc and a place of food prep / consumtion. Ped:D Quote
ady Posted January 21, 2010 Report Posted January 21, 2010 Have a good old shit with the door open and your missus in the next room. If you hear a scream "what the f*ucks that bloody stink" you need moe extraction. :D:D Quote
Stompin Badger Posted January 24, 2010 Report Posted January 24, 2010 I friend of mine was surveying a house & had to explain why it wasn't ok to have a toilet in the corner of the kitchen. There was an Indian woman sat there peeling potatoes who couldn't comprehend how stupid it was that we put a wall there in the first place. Thought it was bad enough having a shite in your bed room (On suit) Quote
JohnDave Posted January 24, 2010 Author Report Posted January 24, 2010 As expected, the Architect has confirmed that this is all OK! Quote
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