martin Posted August 8, 2009 Report Posted August 8, 2009 Yeh, lets string the bstrd up. Its a long time since we've had a lynching:D YEAH! I bet he's a hoody as well. Burn him:D Quote
Taunton Posted August 8, 2009 Report Posted August 8, 2009 Gotta remember that most speedo's are about 10% heavy, whcih is why you're resonably (though don't print this and take it to court ;-) ) safe at doing 33 in a 30. Gotta admit that 50, or more likely 55 on the dial is well over the limit, whether or not its a justified limit. Pay up and keep eyes peeled a bit :-P Quote
mikechml1599968606 Posted August 8, 2009 Report Posted August 8, 2009 Don't bother with any of the urban myths (eg. sending it in for a pound over the fine), they don't work and you'll just piss them off Quote
Timmy1599968758 Posted August 8, 2009 Report Posted August 8, 2009 just to piss on your fire... i went thru a speed camera (going down hill) and had the flash flash moement... but 3 weeks later ive till not got nothing... this is on a bike didnt mean to go over the limit but hey ho we all make mistakes... and we must learn from them... so now ive slowed down alittle Quote
benne Posted August 8, 2009 Report Posted August 8, 2009 I'd hang my head in shame, not adverise it on a forum. A work colleague recieved an invitation to view a "Dangers of Speeding" video instead of points. You might get offered the same & learn the dangers of 50 in a 30. I have seen that video, not because of speeding, just cos I do some career outreach with some cops and he brought it alon for us to see - seems to hit the spot, I have slowed down a little and I was never a very fast driver!! As for denying it arrived in the post - My mam got letter of reminder, she phoned the number up and said she hadnt received the first letter, they said "anyone could say that they didnt....Fine still stands" so the first class 2 weeks thing is a load of sheight in my opinion!! Quote
abba Posted August 8, 2009 Report Posted August 8, 2009 As for denying it arrived in the post - My mam got letter of reminder, she phoned the number up and said she hadnt received the first letter, they said "anyone could say that they didnt....Fine still stands" so the first class 2 weeks thing is a load of sheight in my opinion!! The secret is not to phone them up and just bin the letter:rolleyes: If its not signed for there is no way to prove you receive it Downside to our postal service i guess Quote
BladeAddict Posted August 8, 2009 Report Posted August 8, 2009 They dont have to prove you received it, only that they posted it within two weeks. Quote
geforce Posted August 8, 2009 Author Report Posted August 8, 2009 haha no im not a hoody... well except when im kiting and its windy yes im accepting it and will learn from my mistakes !!, and tbh it the camera was at the end of a 30 limit where the 50mph limit begins..(still no excuse i know) Quote
benne Posted August 8, 2009 Report Posted August 8, 2009 As for denying it arrived in the post - My mam got letter of reminder, she phoned the number up and said she hadnt received the first letter, they said "anyone could say that they didnt....Fine still stands" so the first class 2 weeks thing is a load of sheight in my opinion!! The secret is not to phone them up and just bin the letter:rolleyes: If its not signed for there is no way to prove you receive it Downside to our postal service i guess Much harder to convince them that the original and reminder letter didnt arrive when you get a court sopeana(sp??) As has been said, I didnt know but, they have to prove they sent it, not that you received it! Quote
Atavar Posted August 8, 2009 Report Posted August 8, 2009 As someone who lives only 200 yards from the spot, for all you know that 30 limit may have saved your life thirty times over. You do the crime, you pay the price. If you'd not sped, or if you were only a couple of miles over the odds, yeah, you'd have rights to complain. You're going off to uni, sell the car to recoup the cost and get some spending money for freshers week. Quote
kraftyone Posted August 8, 2009 Report Posted August 8, 2009 ever heard the expression - "don't shit on your own door step"?? One day you'll have kids and you'll be glad of the police trying to slow people down within 200yards of your house. Quote
Kiteboyza Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 The rozzers will be round shortly to take you away, I think for that sort of speed you get taken to Gauntanamo bay and tortured for 2 years Quote
Lem Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 Have to agree.. you have 0 points, and were going well over the limit. Pay the fine and take the points. A single SP30 on your license shouldn't change your insurance much. If you opt to go to court, you'll probably end up with a larger fine and possibly more points. Quote
Frakke1599968664 Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 51 in a 30 is nearly double the speed limit - at least this is now a magistrate will see it and that my friend is "dangerous driving" even if it isn't. Remember that the magistrate doesn't know the area like you and may not be local. Dangerous driving is an instant ban (or at least it was) for at least a year... And a fine and usually some points when you come back as well "for good measure" Being 20 over in a 70 (like on the motorway) is "less serious" as the average traffic speed is higher - this doesn't make it any better for you but coppers don't even chase on the motorway till you get over 86mph and that's already 16 over the limit. - kinda puts things a bit more in perspective I think... As for the video - I would be surprised if they got a good look at your face through the windscreen unless it was a very grey day as the windscreens these days tend to be very reflective in bright sun.. so best they got is the car there speeding and not necessarily you doing the driving. And the laser - your best chance it to argue that you were doing less than the 51 stated more like about 40 and a bit (say 44)... AND CLAIM SLIPPAGE !!! - do not say you weren't speeding but say you were slowing down into the 30 limit and were most likely over the limit but NOT at 51 - it's your own backyard and you know the limits there... Slippage is where the copper with the laser gun has a very shaky hand which means that the laser slides over the surface of the car - this gives and "apparent" increase in actual speed (they know how to do it as well) - it doesn't take much of a slip to get 55 out of a 45mph situation either so you could give it a shot.... you may get away with the 6 points and a fine and keep your license rather than a ban for 12 months and the rest. Either way good luck mate F Quote
mick Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 51 in a 30 is nearly double the speed limit Either way good luck mate F Frakke, Good luck? If he came up my 30 mph street at nearly double the speed I wouldnt be saying fickin good luck. Ive got kids crossing the road. Theres old ppl (me:o ) crossing the road and some gimp comes up doing 51 mph. Insert the fickin laser gun up his jacksie. WITHOUT LUBE. Quote
HeelsideJack Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 Hi, due to very unfortunate timing i was caught speeding by a safety camera van (quite well hidden) less 200 yards outside my house!! :( i was allegedly doing 50mph in a 30mph zone, this was near the end of the 30mph limit. i have been driving for a year and currently have 0 points but have received a letter of intended prosecution... is there anything i can do or do i just have to go to court and pay the price this is no excuse but i would say that 8 out of 10 drivers on that road do not stick even close to the 30mph limit, and i dont blame them because its a straight, A road, with nothing but green on the side i was driving! there is no need for 30mph!! COP IT SWEET! You were speeding. Just because 8/10 other drivers do, doesn't make it right. Just pay the fine, and don't do it next time. Quote
The Geoff Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 51 in a 30 is nearly double the speed limit - at least this is now a magistrate will see it and that my friend is "dangerous driving" Being 20 over in a 70 (like on the motorway) is "less serious" as the average traffic speed is higher - this doesn't make it any better for you but coppers don't even chase on the motorway till you get over 86mph and that's already 16 over the limit. - kinda puts things a bit more in perspective I think... F And here's why: Presuming your car weighs, say, 800kg... At 30mph you have a kinetic energy of 71,931 J At 50mph you have a kinetic energy of 199,809 J .... that's nearly three times as much. To put it another way, the effect on handling going from 30->50 is roughly the same as still doing 30mph, but now in a car that weighs 2222kg. With the same brakes and tyres and crumple zones as the little 800kg car. The difference at 70/90mph is much less; 391,625 J versus 647,381 J. That's only a 65% increase in the kinetic energy, equivalent to an extra 500kg on the car. (ignoring relativistic effects ) Quote
Crispy Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 You were speeding. Just because 8/10 other drivers do, doesn't make it right. It should though, given that we live in a system that advocates majority rule. Quote
mick Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 51 in a 30 is nearly double the speed limit - at least this is now a magistrate will see it and that my friend is "dangerous driving" Being 20 over in a 70 (like on the motorway) is "less serious" as the average traffic speed is higher - this doesn't make it any better for you but coppers don't even chase on the motorway till you get over 86mph and that's already 16 over the limit. - kinda puts things a bit more in perspective I think... F And here's why: Presuming your car weighs, say, 800kg... At 30mph you have a kinetic energy of 71,931 J At 50mph you have a kinetic energy of 199,809 J .... that's nearly three times as much. To put it another way, the effect on handling going from 30->50 is roughly the same as still doing 30mph, but now in a car that weighs 2222kg. With the same brakes and tyres and crumple zones as the little 800kg car. The difference at 70/90mph is much less; 391,625 J versus 647,381 J. That's only a 65% increase in the kinetic energy, equivalent to an extra 500kg on the car. (ignoring relativistic effects ) Some say ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:D Quote
Kiteboyza Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 51 in a 30 is nearly double the speed limit - at least this is now a magistrate will see it and that my friend is "dangerous driving" Being 20 over in a 70 (like on the motorway) is "less serious" as the average traffic speed is higher - this doesn't make it any better for you but coppers don't even chase on the motorway till you get over 86mph and that's already 16 over the limit. - kinda puts things a bit more in perspective I think... F And here's why: Presuming your car weighs, say, 800kg... At 30mph you have a kinetic energy of 71,931 J At 50mph you have a kinetic energy of 199,809 J .... that's nearly three times as much. To put it another way, the effect on handling going from 30->50 is roughly the same as still doing 30mph, but now in a car that weighs 2222kg. With the same brakes and tyres and crumple zones as the little 800kg car. The difference at 70/90mph is much less; 391,625 J versus 647,381 J. That's only a 65% increase in the kinetic energy, equivalent to an extra 500kg on the car. (ignoring relativistic effects ) you soon could be a rival for Sand Yetis posts;) Quote
festa Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 send back to them asking to see the photo (your entitled to see it ) stating that it may not of been you driving it on that occasion and need to have a look just clarify who was driving this can often result in no further action being taken but if they do send the photo out you have to pay the fine and take the points on the chin good luck Quote
Ped Posted August 10, 2009 Report Posted August 10, 2009 I was always under the impression that if your caught doing more than 50% over the posted speed limit it was an instant years ban??? I'd say 50mph in a 30 zone is a min. 6 points at least tho.......... Ped:D Quote
crut Posted August 10, 2009 Report Posted August 10, 2009 Have to agree.. you have 0 points, and were going well over the limit. Pay the fine and take the points. A single SP30 on your license shouldn't change your insurance much. If you opt to go to court, you'll probably end up with a larger fine and possibly more points. I got caught doing 37mph in a 30mph zone. (In my defence, I thought it was a 40mph zone). Traffic cop wouldn't budge and gave me the ticket. I further got told off for paying the fine too quickly - "apparently" you shouldn't pay the fine until you've handed your documents over. Something to do with court. As for insurance my insurance went up a little the next year = down because of an extra years no claims and up due to the speeding offence. Did it suck? Yes. Did it piss me off? Yes. Do I drive more to the speed limits? Absolutely. Quote
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