kitelooping!!

[jamesrtp]

to be honest, i'm not overly bothered by your comment, i used to wear a helmet and knee pads before i got into kitesurfing, as when i was learning i basically hot launched a 2.5m Beamer after it floated from the side of the window to launch to the centre, landed that one on my nogin.

 

suppose i should get back into the habit of wearing my helmet, and just for you Gizmo, i'll take it with me next time i go, being friday, especially as its guna be 20 knots plus. and i'll see if i can get some photographic evidence for you

 

cheers for the extra advice Cyprino.

[Gomas]

Fridays looking epic, you'll need more than a helmet if you go for loops in the 20-40 North Westerly kts predicted.

 

If you were planning on kiting the green next to the pond, apparently kites are banned on there now.

[austin]

go out massivly powered send it crank it...........land hot redirect

[lproctor]

lproctor - Cool, so he'll have a broken neck and brain damage!

Sounds fantastic.

 

Don't wish to raise the issue again but my point was a helmet won't stop a broken neck which is what I'd be worried about. But yeh, it is personal preference, hence my issue with gizmo's approach. Anyway, James is a big boy, He'll deal with his "boo boos" just fine

[plummet]

should i bust a kite loop on my 6m access to start with and then move to the manta?

 

or just bang it out on the manta?

 

is there any landboard manta looping vids lurking around? i see lots of kiteloop vids for sle's with tiny little almost gutless looking loops. i'm sure if i loop the manta at 20 knots it will WANG alot harder that the sle loops.

[Gregga]

should i bust a kite loop on my 6m access to start with and then move to the manta?

 

or just bang it out on the manta?

 

is there any landboard manta looping vids lurking around? i see lots of kiteloop vids for sle's with tiny little almost gutless looking loops. i'm sure if i loop the manta at 20 knots it will WANG alot harder that the sle loops.

 

 

one word.

 

 

Chasta.

 

 

he loops mantas like anything in some of his vids, on snow and on a mountain, yh but dont think anyother people are mad enough to loop one on flat land 'propperly'

[Afro1599968737]

http://torbaykiteunit.com/wp-content/gallery/watcombe-sessions/dsc_0357.jpg

torbay flier doing his thang

 

and from personal experience, the manta loops very nicely

[jamesrtp]

Fridays looking epic, you'll need more than a helmet if you go for loops in the 20-40 North Westerly kts predicted.

 

If you were planning on kiting the green next to the pond, apparently kites are banned on there now.

 

i was going to, and yeah so i heard, are you on the edge forums? apparently the sand is still usable and its going to be low tide in the afternoon, so just peachy for when i finish work

[plummet]

yeah i've seen chasta looping madness but thats an entirely different level. its like saying here's the shoes that Usain Bolt uses. go sprint a 100m in less than 10 secs.

 

i want to see normal plebs looping manta's.... or maybe thats the answer the plebs (myslef included) don't loop these kites.

 

Afro was that a unhooked loop.?

 

Some people have suggested to unhook and fishpole the bar. i'd be scared of the bar being ripped from my hands.....

[Gomas]

Thats me looping the manta. its unhooked.

 

James i cant register for edge for some reason, but just been having a look through your posts, from that sign, it looks like kitesurfers will still get away with launching/landing, just landboarders that suffer.

 

Anyway, the sand on the dp is soft. especially when its dropping from high. On a hot day a good few hours after the water has gone, it can be ok, but its still bumpy.

 

your best bet would be to mission it up to westward Ho! if you got a car/the time.

[Afro1599968737]

@ plummet

 

you wont let go of the bar; your body has more sense than that

unhooked is more committed, which can be both good and bad

try them in lower winds first (around 15mph)

[eazyrider]

Fair play to anybody who's pulling kite loops!

 

I will happily pull sissy loops in medium winds, but now I'm nearly 32 with a very dodgy ankle that's always in my mind when ever I'm on the board.

 

Oh to be young and fearless again.

 

All I know is unless you commit 100% its going to hurt a lot, get it right though and I'm looking like one of the Red Arrows leaving a brown smoke trail behind me as I fly through the air!

[jamesrtp]

yeah i've flown on that sand when i was learning, but it is pretty lumps and some really odd soft patches which i always got caught on, and there's stones bricks and all sorts on the estuary, where abouts do you landboard?

 

I would easily go to the Ho! every time, but i haven't even had my first driving lesson yet and i turned 17 in february. and just bought 7m and 10m 09 vegas, so paying for any lessons will be a while away

[hankster]

i've done a proper powered kiteloop on land twice once with an 05 10m frenzy and once with a 10m speed II,then tried one again with the frenzy didn't land it but landed on my side resulting in 4 cracked ribs and a broken finger.never again on land and i doubt if i'll ever do it on water again either as i kept dislocating my left shoulder now after 3yrs of steroid injections i've been offered surgery.

[jamesrtp]

i've done a proper powered kiteloop on land twice once with an 05 10m frenzy and once with a 10m speed II,then tried one again with the frenzy didn't land it but landed on my side resulting in 4 cracked ribs and a broken finger.never again on land and i doubt if i'll ever do it on water again either as i kept dislocating my left shoulder now after 3yrs of steroid injections i've been offered surgery.

 

wow that really does put it into perspective!!!

[Gomas]

Used to landboard on the rec a lot. not so much any more tho. mainly just kitesurf or use the beaches now. Check out Jonno's FLikr of a few of our sessions:

 

 

I think we were the first people to get a ramp goin on the rec. all be it a crappy little one, made of bricks and wood :!

[poldo]

i've done a proper powered kiteloop on land twice once with an 05 10m frenzy and once with a 10m speed II,then tried one again with the frenzy didn't land it but landed on my side resulting in 4 cracked ribs and a broken finger.never again on land and i doubt if i'll ever do it on water again either as i kept dislocating my left shoulder now after 3yrs of steroid injections i've been offered surgery.

 

ouch! these real stories keep me away to loop to much...

[jamesrtp]

Used to landboard on the rec a lot. not so much any more tho. mainly just kitesurf or use the beaches now. Check out Jonno's FLikr of a few of our sessions:

 

 

I think we were the first people to get a ramp goin on the rec. all be it a crappy little one, made of bricks and wood :!

 

oh dude those photo's are of you, was it you that went to egypt and tarifa with Jonno, seen the photo's, some really good stuff!!

[bash1599968729]

Mantas are awesome for sweet hang time and steady kite loops by way of design if you want the kite to go through the loop quicker the Frenzy's and are better by my opinion. they turn quicker getting the kite above your head real quick. That said the Manta's are not slow given the size compared to AR.

 

My advice If your going for a kite loop then ask someone have a lesson at your local spot when landing jumps try to make them first quick down wind run offs landing noth heel and toe side so what ever way you came in you will be ready. Most people have the ability to loop the kite(depends on how big your balls are) but not everyone can land smooth without incident.

 

Also dont forget to let go of the turn before making it a double kite loop, this is another failing by most starting this trick you get the kite round and are so concentrated on the landing you forget momentarily to let the bar straight and the kite goes for another result normally face plant!

 

Make sure you have enough wind in the kite to ensure no back stall as this will slow the kite through the loop and may not get back above your head quick enough to ease the landing. Becuase of the sheer nature of the trick you will be following the kite so remember to keep the line tenion in the kite lines or in higher winds(easier to do the trick) you will land quick and be faced with the kite falling out the sky(result possible face plant)

 

think that all i got to say on it other than the reason for alot of riders using the LEI's is purley becuase of the turning speed and stability they also depower when let out on the suicide leash where foils do not this can build confidence but there are plenty of riders who use foils for this trick and the kites are designed for it so no need to change that quiver!

 

p.s do you have body armour?

[Gomas]

Used to landboard on the rec a lot. not so much any more tho. mainly just kitesurf or use the beaches now. Check out Jonno's FLikr of a few of our sessions:

 

 

I think we were the first people to get a ramp goin on the rec. all be it a crappy little one, made of bricks and wood :!

 

oh dude those photo's are of you, was it you that went to egypt and tarifa with Jonno, seen the photo's, some really good stuff!!

 

 

Cheers, yep, Jonno did a good job with the photos.

[plummet]

i have armour yes. went to the beach but the wind is abit shitty at the mo.... its the middle of winter. so its unpredictable.. maybe i'll wait till i get smoother winds.

 

is there any advantage on busting them out on the ground first. i could see that i could run the process on the ground with the access. and then take it to the air?

[1991-smithy]

Any of you guys looped a peter lynn. Iv landed a couple of kiteloop backloops in light winds on my 15m synergy. But when the wind starts to pick up i cant loop it quick enough and end up smashing into the ground.

 

iv tried on my shops 12m and 8m, the 8m is just 2 fast, cant be dealing with it. the 12 is just so powerful, any twinskin riders advice?/

[AJ9604]

you can loop a foil on land but you will not get anywhere near the height, wang or feeling of a loop on a lei as the kite will not be quick enough to produce this, also the kite will probably not catch you quick enough if you did go high ending in a very heavy landing, you get alot of forwards force on a foil but a lei can produce just the same amount http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/jelmboy/_MG_1481.jpg

 

AJ

[Afro1599968737]

^ weird; i've looped kites from 13 to 6 meters, foils, C's and hybrids, and i'd say that foils can give you some badass loops... they do tend to be slower than inflatos, but that just makes them loop lower in the window, giving you more "wang"

 

and i've never been a fan of the whole "caught" loops thing, it feels like you go all out for an insane move, only to backtrack and water it down for a tame landing... hot and hard all the way with the kite out in front, not heli-looping overhead

[Tjah1087]

If you are looping at height and the kite doesn't catch you after the loop, it hurts.

 

It's not a slow landing, at least not in the horizontal direction. The important bit is that it cuts down your vertical speed, and stops your grab handle being inserted into your anus upon landing.