jdhot Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 Great little review there John, Even though I've only had a handful of occasions to fly the 4m, most of which I've been under powered I have to agree with a lot of your comments; the way it sits on brakes and even the way it will land on it's brakes the gentleness of it's power increase, no ripping your arms off it's stability and ease of recovery or should I say lack of recoveries needed, it's so resistant to bow ties and the power control is enjoyable. I would just luv to have a good day with the right conditions to really try it out as I've been teased and can feel it's potential Glad to hear your luvin these kites though. As for ease of use, we had a newbie with us a week ago in light winds, and he was struggling with a 6.5mtr blade and then he tried the 4m Method. His comments afterwards was how easy the Method was to fly and user friendly, he was stoked with it and I'm sure one will be on his shopping list. JD Quote
jhn.holgate Posted January 29, 2011 Report Posted January 29, 2011 Here's some vid of the 6.5m Method from Kingston. Started off real light - 7 knots or so, maybe a bit less and ended up around 13-14. Quote
lickedysplit_au Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 Awesome vid there Mr Holgate!! That 6.5 turns nicely in the light winds mate, especially on the Turbo bar! I have always detested flying fixed bridles on bars but the Turbo bar seems to have really nailed it. GRUNTY! Quote
jdhot Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 I have always detested flying fixed bridles on bars but the Turbo bar seems to have really nailed it. GRUNTY! Mate, going from handles to bar I swore I'd never go back but the Turbo Bar has changed my mind, just takes a little to get used to after a de-power run, don't pull the bar for power .... ease it on the brake lines Would luv to try a 6.5mtr one day they look awesome in the vid John JD Quote
lickedysplit_au Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 Have you got a Turbo bar JD?? If you do I might have to borrow it for a few weeks Quote
jdhot Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 TURBO BAR !!!!!! Who, What, When, Where ..... No worries mate when we meet up feel free to rummage for it. JD Quote
lickedysplit_au Posted February 15, 2011 Report Posted February 15, 2011 TURBO BAR !!!!!! Who, What, When, Where ..... No worries mate when we meet up feel free to rummage for it. JD Wicked mate, don't know if it will convert me but hopefully change my opinion some. Will have a Method with me this weekend on Stockton for anyone interested in checking it out. Pretty sure JD will have one too Quote
Nocando Posted February 15, 2011 Report Posted February 15, 2011 Hey Troy if there are dramas I own one also, I can post if needed. Also if you want it for some time all is well. My olds are up here this weekend, I can get them to drop it off Sunday night when they get back to the coast. Cheers Quote
lickedysplit_au Posted February 15, 2011 Report Posted February 15, 2011 Awesome Glenn, thanks for the offer mate. Will have a chat to JD and see if he finds the demo and if not will give you a shout Quote
jdhot Posted February 15, 2011 Report Posted February 15, 2011 No probs at all It attached to a 4m Method from memory, the 4m should be a good size for the winds predicted will have to bring the disc wheels for the V-Max as well. Bring on this weekend JD Quote
lickedysplit_au Posted February 16, 2011 Report Posted February 16, 2011 Attached to the 4m?? Nice try JD LOL. Might have to take it off and wack it on my 5m Gotta say though after checking out David and Rob in the Yak thread, handles handles handles. Still keen to give it a lash though Quote
jhn.holgate Posted February 16, 2011 Report Posted February 16, 2011 The turbo bar steers with something like 70% brakes 30% front lines - that's only approximate from looking at it. Trick is, some kites are fine being steered like this - ie: Method, Imp, Flow, Beamer. Some are ok - Hornet. And some hate it! - Century 2 and Reactor II - turn the bar, stall and spin kite - total disaster. At least that's true for the smaller sizes in the Century & Reactor that I've flown - may get better as the kite gets bigger and less prone to stalling. It's all about matching the kite to the bar. The Method does work very well with the bar, although if you turn it real hard - it does stall and spin but in a very controlled manner that you can use to your advantage. In my case, if I send the kite a bit too far back, I can spin it without any power and bring it back. Although that may be something skilled pilots can do with any kite - I wouldn't know One major advantage of the turbo bar is I can pull on a bit of brakes with one hand while cruising if I need a little more oomph out of the kite. The overall effect, when your up to cruising speed in the bug, is not dissimilar to the feel of a depower bar. You might find it a bit weird at first and perhaps a bit counter intuitive when static flying or going slow. Took me a few hours to get used to it when I first got the bar. Will be interested to hear your thoughts. Quote
jdhot Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 And some hate it! - Century 2 and Reactor II - turn the bar, stall and spin kite - total disaster.{/quote] I think that could be easily rectified John by shortening the front lines or extending the rear to compensate. I've flown it on the Method a few times and found it very easy to operate, as you said John at low speed you need to be careful not to apply to much pull on the bar/applying brakes. Once it's up to cruising speed it's a breeze and works quite well on the bar by applying brakes, but still too much and it will stall. Have to say I enjoy using it JD Quote
jhn.holgate Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 shortening the front lines or extending the rear to compensate. I think you'll just end up with monumental amounts of slack in your brake lines. I usually set up the bar so there is nearly no pressure on the brakes with the bar out - although with the method I put a wee bit back in - just a smidge. Even when I fly my Century on handles - if there's a bit of brake in the turn, it stalls and spins on me pretty easily - not that I'm much good at flying that one yet. If you get the chance to put a century on the turbo bar, give it a whirl - probably the bigger, the better - more air = harder to deflate & stall ? Now I'm guessing!! Even the Hornet is just on the edge - you can feel it just starting to lose a bit of air and power during a turn with the TB. I think some kite just like to be flown from the front lines. Quote
Jimmy22 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 a vapor would probably do that too, they almost pivot around the front lines. Im thinking of trying a Yak GT on the turbo bar, it might work. looks like a one kite race is being planned down here all method 3m kites , could be good having 7 buggies all flying one brand/design and size close racing id expect. we should be able to see if the turbo bar works better than handles at the same time. Quote
lickedysplit_au Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 "Method Class" racing! Sounds awesome Jimmy, think it would make for some wicked competition everyone on the same foil! Don't forget the pics and vids mate GT on the bar - Pics and vid again too! Not sure how the GT will go on the bar especially with the increased rear line input and lack of rear line control (still a turbo bar virgin though) but I am sure you will have more luck than with any previous models of Yak. One thing is for sure though mate it will fly better than the old keyboard kite! Quote
JKS Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 Bump .... i got nothing good to say but I wanna join in Quote
lickedysplit_au Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 Bump .... i got nothing good to say but I wanna join in Well if you have nothing good to say then best just keep to bumping but if you wanna get involved positively then join the Method Party Marty! (Thanks for the Bump) Quote
lickedysplit_au Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 Bumptastic Methods will be @ Stockton this weekend for anyone interested to try Quote
JKS Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 What do you get if you fall and hit your head ? Quote
Steve Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 I guess you learn one method to get a bump? is there a prize? Quote
JKS Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 You get a bump .... hah hah hah hah hee hee hee Quote
lickedysplit_au Posted February 21, 2011 Report Posted February 21, 2011 Now we just have to get you to try a Method Marty Quote
jhn.holgate Posted February 21, 2011 Report Posted February 21, 2011 Im thinking of trying a Yak GT on the turbo bar, it might work. I remember reading a post where someone was saying they were running a Yak on a Turbo Bar without any problems. I've never flown a Yak so I've no idea how they respond to brake input in turns. I did see a video of a 5m Crossfire II on a Turbo Bar and it appeared to stay fully inflated in the turns - looked pretty good. One thing to watch on the bar is getting twists in the power line below the pulley - it only takes a couple of twists to start to bind up. Easy fixed, you can just spin the plastic stopper doohicky thingo with your fingers to get the twists out. Quote
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