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I meant to mention I have listes some other stuff like edge sarpeners and wax. All bargains.
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your kitesurfing will be a real help. Just remember these two things to get the right stance for turning etc.. : 1)You must feel pressure on your front shin inside your boot. (If not you are leaning back too far and cant turn) 2)You must have your front hand out over the front of the board and imagine you are holding a steering wheel with it... It leads all your turns and manoeuvres... Doesnt matter whether its a front flip or a simple turn... it's the golden element.... Chris
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This sale finishes tomorrow Sunday.. see link above. I just want to clear the garage out finally! Thanks
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Ideal for snowkiting/ or snowboarding/skiing. A 145 Snowboard, NEW Brunotti jacket, Pants, Booster gloves, goggles, tools and wax. I have it all for sale on ebay at: http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ50QQsassZchrisck48 PLease check it out and email me from there if you have any questions. Auction finishes Sunday, postage possible Monday. PLus more winter gear is at: http://www.k48.com/k48internetstore.htm My own little 2007 Sale selloff.... Cheers Chris
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The High Wind days are rare and when record height can be achieved.. Yesterday was one and I was out on a proto 6.6 Blade.. but it was fairly ruined by a couple of guys hovering around in the flat zone with small Lei kites. If you were one of the LEI Kitesurfers who were out yesterday at Camber nearer high tide... nice to see you going for it but if it's that windy you really need to know the rules of the water and gain an understanding what others are capable of in terms of height and distance in those winds. By consistently not looking before turning you were preventing anyone jumping behind you on the way out. Ruined my day.. a rare Big Air day. One guy even blocked me when I was on starboard tack and cutting higher. Please get your kite down. (If I had a £1 for everytime I said that..). Please read on: Kitesurfing in Crowds... Rules of the Water. Kitesurfing in crowds can be both an enjoyable experience or a complete nightmare, depending on the interaction of the riders. With increasing crowds these days some knowledge of how to ride amongst others is essential for all of us to enjoy our day on the water. Whether you are a complete beginner or you are an expert, these Kitesurfing Rules are for you. Nobody can jump safely if someone up front turns without looking, and innocent beginners may not realise that they are stopping 20 kitesurfers from kiting as they stand in a pack with their kite up. So, for all our sakes, please read the following for guidance on kitesurfing with others. Take your own location and conditions on the day into account and adjust accordingly... all safety, liability and responsibility lies with the you, the rider. Read on.... Kitesurfing Rules! ------------------------ Standing/Walking upwind with your kite: High/Gusty winds: Most accidents happen in this situation. Don't stand around with your kite up. Get out on the water or get your kite down as soon as possible. Light winds/Safe open beach: If you are walking upwind or standing, keep your kite low and over the land so that others may kitesurf past you, upwind on the water. This is especially important in onshore light winds and at lagoons when people kitesurf along close to the beach in the flat water. Remember: Your kite will be in the way even if you are 30m away from the water! Keep it low. Passing on the water: In line with windsurfing/sailing, if two riders are heading together on the same line and there is doubt who is tracking higher upwind, the rider on Starboard Tack has right of way (the guy with right shoulder forward). The guy on Port Tack must lower his kite to ensure a clean pass. HOWEVER if you are on starboard tack and the other rider seems to be cutting upwind better than you, DON'T fight for upwind place, you are not on the same line so the Starboard Rule does not apply, lower your kite and go downwind of him. Be polite, and consider buying his kite/board...! Gybing/Turning/Transitions: In line with windsurfing/sailing: YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS WHEN YOU ARE TURNING. You must look back before swinging your kite to change direction. Look for windsurfers and kitesurfers. This is very important if you enter an aerial transition. Look back first... and look back and UPWIND for a kitesurfer who may be 20ft in the air and drifting down behind you. He cannot change direction, he could not have known you would gybe.. and it is likely that you will be hit. You are in the wrong... so look first. If you plan to turn soon, turn and look around to see what is going on around you. It helps. Jumping: Before jumping check the area downwind of you, both in front of you and behind. Check for windsurfers (they are fast), surfers (hard to see) and of course kitesurfers. Before you send that kite back, allow for people changing direction; e.g:if a big wave is about to land on a windsurfer or kitesurfer who is going out through the waves in front of you, he will have to turn.. so don't jump! If someone is approaching the shallows at the beach, he will likely turn to come out again. Even though he will be in the wrong for turning without looking it's about common sense. If you have taken off observing this principle all should be fine. Occasionally during big jumps someone going out may have gybed back underneath you and put himself/his kite in your landing zone. Politely request he looks before he turns next time... perhaps he will have been terrified into this realisaton anyway. (IMPORTANT NOTE: In some confined spaces like behind breakwaters, sandbanks or sea walls, where jumping on the way in in the flat water is the whole point of riding at that location, refer to Gybing/Turning/Transitions... Don't gybe into the jumping area unless it is clear.. If a pattern is set up where people stop before they turn and look... everyone will be able to enjoy the spot. Be considerate, you will get your turn in the jump zone. Example locations: Kite Beach Maui, Whitstable point UK, Scheveningen breakwaters Holland, Vada breakwater Italy, Sharks Bay South Africa, Cherating Malaysia.. and any temporary tidal lagoons anywhere in the world.) Wave Riding locations: Here windsurfing wavesailing rules apply with some additions. The first person riding on the face of a rising swell, owns that wave. If two people gybe onto a wave at the same moment, the person upwind owns that wave, the downwind person MUST gybe out. Riders may not join a wave downwind of a rider coming in on that wave. Downwind wave rides are fast and furious, and the rider may not be able to stop.. so stay OFF the wave, get your own. If you join upwind of him on the wave, you can only use that wave to go upwind or straight in, stay clear. You cannot follow him downwind or you may collide with him if he crashes. It's not your wave, behave accordingly. Where possible do not obstruct a wave rider with your kite. Cruising in behind a wave with your kite hanging over the next wave in front will hinder a waveride for the guy in front. You are in a wave location, ride accordingly. In any case cruising in behind waves is likely to get you landed on by someone coming out over the waves. Ride the waves or go somewhere else. Passing in a Wave location: Use sense, a waverider may not be able to stop, plan for this on your way out... stay upwind of them. If you are riding a wave coming in, consider the riders coming out, they may be having trouble getting through waves, they may not be able to see you, plan accordingly. Notes for Learners: Do not gravitate toward a pack of kitesurfers that are flying up and down on the water. Unfortunately beginners and those already capable of kitesurfing mix about as well as barrage balloons and aeroplanes.. So for now, take yourself out of the way, DOWNWIND of the pack where this is possible. You will have less distractions and nobody shouting at you to get your kite down low etc.. People will respect you for doing this and you will get a more positive response if you need advice. If you launched on your lonesome and suddenly end up surrounded by buzzing kitesurfers, keep your kite low over the land (if it is safe to do so) while you ready your board. If it really gets too busy, you would do better to move. It may seem unwelcoming but we have all been through it... you WILL make many friends in kitesurfing, but this will happen back on the beach. We are a friendly bunch really! As long as we can kitesurf! With beaches getting closed to us left, right and centre there is considerable pressure on space sometimes. See you at the beach! Disclaimer: At all times safety is the over riding priority. While these rules are to be followed for the benefit of kitesurfing in general, including improved safety, if following the rules would endanger any person then these rules must be departed from at the discretion of the rider. All liability, responsibility and risk ultimately lies with the rider.
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Just wondering... at what windspeed do YOU say... "Naaaah!" and watch?
ChrisC replied to adamski's topic in Kite Surfing
Kitesurfing in Crowds... Rules of the Water. Kitesurfing in crowds can be both an enjoyable experience or a complete nightmare, depending on the interaction of the riders. With increasing crowds these days some knowledge of how to ride amongst others is essential for all of us to enjoy our day on the water. Whether you are a complete beginner or you are an expert, these Kitesurfing Rules are for you. Nobody can jump safely if someone up front turns without looking, and innocent beginners may not realise that they are stopping 20 kitesurfers from kiting as they stand in a pack with their kite up. So, for all our sakes, please read the following for guidance on kitesurfing with others. Take your own location and conditions on the day into account and adjust accordingly... all safety, liability and responsibility lies with the you, the rider. Read on.... Kitesurfing Rules! ------------------------ Standing/Walking upwind with your kite: High/Gusty winds: Most accidents happen in this situation. Don't stand around with your kite up. Get out on the water or get your kite down as soon as possible. Light winds/Safe open beach: If you are walking upwind or standing, keep your kite low and over the land so that others may kitesurf past you, upwind on the water. This is especially important in onshore light winds and at lagoons when people kitesurf along close to the beach in the flat water. Remember: Your kite will be in the way even if you are 30m away from the water! Keep it low. Passing on the water: In line with windsurfing/sailing, if two riders are heading together on the same line and there is doubt who is tracking higher upwind, the rider on Starboard Tack has right of way (the guy with right shoulder forward). The guy on Port Tack must lower his kite to ensure a clean pass. HOWEVER if you are on starboard tack and the other rider seems to be cutting upwind better than you, DON'T fight for upwind place, you are not on the same line so the Starboard Rule does not apply, lower your kite and go downwind of him. Be polite, and consider buying his kite/board...! Gybing/Turning/Transitions: In line with windsurfing/sailing: YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS WHEN YOU ARE TURNING. You must look back before swinging your kite to change direction. Look for windsurfers and kitesurfers. This is very important if you enter an aerial transition. Look back first... and look back and UPWIND for a kitesurfer who may be 20ft in the air and drifting down behind you. He cannot change direction, he could not have known you would gybe.. and it is likely that you will be hit. You are in the wrong... so look first. If you plan to turn soon, turn and look around to see what is going on around you. It helps. Jumping: Before jumping check the area downwind of you, both in front of you and behind. Check for windsurfers (they are fast), surfers (hard to see) and of course kitesurfers. Before you send that kite back, allow for people changing direction; e.g:if a big wave is about to land on a windsurfer or kitesurfer who is going out through the waves in front of you, he will have to turn.. so don't jump! If someone is approaching the shallows at the beach, he will likely turn to come out again. Even though he will be in the wrong for turning without looking it's about common sense. If you have taken off observing this principle all should be fine. Occasionally during big jumps someone going out may have gybed back underneath you and put himself/his kite in your landing zone. Politely request he looks before he turns next time... perhaps he will have been terrified into this realisaton anyway. (IMPORTANT NOTE: In some confined spaces like behind breakwaters, sandbanks or sea walls, where jumping on the way in in the flat water is the whole point of riding at that location, refer to Gybing/Turning/Transitions... Don't gybe into the jumping area unless it is clear.. If a pattern is set up where people stop before they turn and look... everyone will be able to enjoy the spot. Be considerate, you will get your turn in the jump zone. Example locations: Kite Beach Maui, Whitstable point UK, Scheveningen breakwaters Holland, Vada breakwater Italy, Sharks Bay South Africa, Cherating Malaysia.. and any temporary tidal lagoons anywhere in the world.) Wave Riding locations: Here windsurfing wavesailing rules apply with some additions. The first person riding on the face of a rising swell, owns that wave. If two people gybe onto a wave at the same moment, the person upwind owns that wave, the downwind person MUST gybe out. Riders may not join a wave downwind of a rider coming in on that wave. Downwind wave rides are fast and furious, and the rider may not be able to stop.. so stay OFF the wave, get your own. If you join upwind of him on the wave, you can only use that wave to go upwind or straight in, stay clear. You cannot follow him downwind or you may collide with him if he crashes. It's not your wave, behave accordingly. Where possible do not obstruct a wave rider with your kite. Cruising in behind a wave with your kite hanging over the next wave in front will hinder a waveride for the guy in front. You are in a wave location, ride accordingly. In any case cruising in behind waves is likely to get you landed on by someone coming out over the waves. Ride the waves or go somewhere else. Passing in a Wave location: Use sense, a waverider may not be able to stop, plan for this on your way out... stay upwind of them. If you are riding a wave coming in, consider the riders coming out, they may be having trouble getting through waves, they may not be able to see you, plan accordingly. Notes for Learners: Do not gravitate toward a pack of kitesurfers that are flying up and down on the water. Unfortunately beginners and those already capable of kitesurfing mix about as well as barrage balloons and aeroplanes.. So for now, take yourself out of the way, DOWNWIND of the pack where this is possible. You will have less distractions and nobody shouting at you to get your kite down low etc.. People will respect you for doing this and you will get a more positive response if you need advice. If you launched on your lonesome and suddenly end up surrounded by buzzing kitesurfers, keep your kite low over the land (if it is safe to do so) while you ready your board. If it really gets too busy, you would do better to move. It may seem unwelcoming but we have all been through it... you WILL make many friends in kitesurfing, but this will happen back on the beach. We are a friendly bunch really! As long as we can kitesurf! With beaches getting closed to us left, right and centre there is considerable pressure on space sometimes. See you at the beach! Disclaimer: At all times safety is the over riding priority. While these rules are to be followed for the benefit of kitesurfing in general, including improved safety, if following the rules would endanger any person then these rules must be departed from at the discretion of the rider. All liability, responsibility and risk ultimately lies with the rider. -
Kitesurfing in Crowds... Rules of the Water. Kitesurfing in crowds can be both an enjoyable experience or a complete nightmare, depending on the interaction of the riders. With increasing crowds these days some knowledge of how to ride amongst others is essential for all of us to enjoy our day on the water. Whether you are a complete beginner or you are an expert, these Kitesurfing Rules are for you. Nobody can jump safely if someone up front turns without looking, and innocent beginners may not realise that they are stopping 20 kitesurfers from kiting as they stand in a pack with their kite up. So, for all our sakes, please read the following for guidance on kitesurfing with others. Take your own location and conditions on the day into account and adjust accordingly... all safety, liability and responsibility lies with the you, the rider. Read on.... Kitesurfing Rules! ------------------------ Standing/Walking upwind with your kite: High/Gusty winds: Most accidents happen in this situation. Don't stand around with your kite up. Get out on the water or get your kite down as soon as possible. Light winds/Safe open beach: If you are walking upwind or standing, keep your kite low and over the land so that others may kitesurf past you, upwind on the water. This is especially important in onshore light winds and at lagoons when people kitesurf along close to the beach in the flat water. Remember: Your kite will be in the way even if you are 30m away from the water! Keep it low. Passing on the water: In line with windsurfing/sailing, if two riders are heading together on the same line and there is doubt who is tracking higher upwind, the rider on Starboard Tack has right of way (the guy with right shoulder forward). The guy on Port Tack must lower his kite to ensure a clean pass. HOWEVER if you are on starboard tack and the other rider seems to be cutting upwind better than you, DON'T fight for upwind place, you are not on the same line so the Starboard Rule does not apply, lower your kite and go downwind of him. Be polite, and consider buying his kite/board...! Gybing/Turning/Transitions: In line with windsurfing/sailing: YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS WHEN YOU ARE TURNING. You must look back before swinging your kite to change direction. Look for windsurfers and kitesurfers. This is very important if you enter an aerial transition. Look back first... and look back and UPWIND for a kitesurfer who may be 20ft in the air and drifting down behind you. He cannot change direction, he could not have known you would gybe.. and it is likely that you will be hit. You are in the wrong... so look first. If you plan to turn soon, turn and look around to see what is going on around you. It helps. Jumping: Before jumping check the area downwind of you, both in front of you and behind. Check for windsurfers (they are fast), surfers (hard to see) and of course kitesurfers. Before you send that kite back, allow for people changing direction; e.g:if a big wave is about to land on a windsurfer or kitesurfer who is going out through the waves in front of you, he will have to turn.. so don't jump! If someone is approaching the shallows at the beach, he will likely turn to come out again. Even though he will be in the wrong for turning without looking it's about common sense. If you have taken off observing this principle all should be fine. Occasionally during big jumps someone going out may have gybed back underneath you and put himself/his kite in your landing zone. Politely request he looks before he turns next time... perhaps he will have been terrified into this realisaton anyway. (IMPORTANT NOTE: In some confined spaces like behind breakwaters, sandbanks or sea walls, where jumping on the way in in the flat water is the whole point of riding at that location, refer to Gybing/Turning/Transitions... Don't gybe into the jumping area unless it is clear.. If a pattern is set up where people stop before they turn and look... everyone will be able to enjoy the spot. Be considerate, you will get your turn in the jump zone. Example locations: Kite Beach Maui, Whitstable point UK, Scheveningen breakwaters Holland, Vada breakwater Italy, Sharks Bay South Africa, Cherating Malaysia.. and any temporary tidal lagoons anywhere in the world.) Wave Riding locations: Here windsurfing wavesailing rules apply with some additions. The first person riding on the face of a rising swell, owns that wave. If two people gybe onto a wave at the same moment, the person upwind owns that wave, the downwind person MUST gybe out. Riders may not join a wave downwind of a rider coming in on that wave. Downwind wave rides are fast and furious, and the rider may not be able to stop.. so stay OFF the wave, get your own. If you join upwind of him on the wave, you can only use that wave to go upwind or straight in, stay clear. You cannot follow him downwind or you may collide with him if he crashes. It's not your wave, behave accordingly. Where possible do not obstruct a wave rider with your kite. Cruising in behind a wave with your kite hanging over the next wave in front will hinder a waveride for the guy in front. You are in a wave location, ride accordingly. In any case cruising in behind waves is likely to get you landed on by someone coming out over the waves. Ride the waves or go somewhere else. Passing in a Wave location: Use sense, a waverider may not be able to stop, plan for this on your way out... stay upwind of them. If you are riding a wave coming in, consider the riders coming out, they may be having trouble getting through waves, they may not be able to see you, plan accordingly. Notes for Learners: Do not gravitate toward a pack of kitesurfers that are flying up and down on the water. Unfortunately beginners and those already capable of kitesurfing mix about as well as barrage balloons and aeroplanes.. So for now, take yourself out of the way, DOWNWIND of the pack where this is possible. You will have less distractions and nobody shouting at you to get your kite down low etc.. People will respect you for doing this and you will get a more positive response if you need advice. If you launched on your lonesome and suddenly end up surrounded by buzzing kitesurfers, keep your kite low over the land (if it is safe to do so) while you ready your board. If it really gets too busy, you would do better to move. It may seem unwelcoming but we have all been through it... you WILL make many friends in kitesurfing, but this will happen back on the beach. We are a friendly bunch really! As long as we can kitesurf! With beaches getting closed to us left, right and centre there is considerable pressure on space sometimes. See you at the beach! Disclaimer: At all times safety is the over riding priority. While these rules are to be followed for the benefit of kitesurfing in general, including improved safety, if following the rules would endanger any person then these rules must be departed from at the discretion of the rider. All liability, responsibility and risk ultimately lies with the rider.
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Some questions - Chicken loop thingie and self landing
ChrisC replied to Willows's topic in Kite Surfing
Kitesurfing in Crowds... Rules of the Water. Kitesurfing in crowds can be both an enjoyable experience or a complete nightmare, depending on the interaction of the riders. With increasing crowds these days some knowledge of how to ride amongst others is essential for all of us to enjoy our day on the water. Whether you are a complete beginner or you are an expert, these Kitesurfing Rules are for you. Nobody can jump safely if someone up front turns without looking, and innocent beginners may not realise that they are stopping 20 kitesurfers from kiting as they stand in a pack with their kite up. So, for all our sakes, please read the following for guidance on kitesurfing with others. Take your own location and conditions on the day into account and adjust accordingly... all safety, liability and responsibility lies with the you, the rider. Read on.... Kitesurfing Rules! ------------------------ Standing/Walking upwind with your kite: High/Gusty winds: Most accidents happen in this situation. Don't stand around with your kite up. Get out on the water or get your kite down as soon as possible. Light winds/Safe open beach: If you are walking upwind or standing, keep your kite low and over the land so that others may kitesurf past you, upwind on the water. This is especially important in onshore light winds and at lagoons when people kitesurf along close to the beach in the flat water. Remember: Your kite will be in the way even if you are 30m away from the water! Keep it low. Passing on the water: In line with windsurfing/sailing, if two riders are heading together on the same line and there is doubt who is tracking higher upwind, the rider on Starboard Tack has right of way (the guy with right shoulder forward). The guy on Port Tack must lower his kite to ensure a clean pass. HOWEVER if you are on starboard tack and the other rider seems to be cutting upwind better than you, DON'T fight for upwind place, you are not on the same line so the Starboard Rule does not apply, lower your kite and go downwind of him. Be polite, and consider buying his kite/board...! Gybing/Turning/Transitions: In line with windsurfing/sailing: YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS WHEN YOU ARE TURNING. You must look back before swinging your kite to change direction. Look for windsurfers and kitesurfers. This is very important if you enter an aerial transition. Look back first... and look back and UPWIND for a kitesurfer who may be 20ft in the air and drifting down behind you. He cannot change direction, he could not have known you would gybe.. and it is likely that you will be hit. You are in the wrong... so look first. If you plan to turn soon, turn and look around to see what is going on around you. It helps. Jumping: Before jumping check the area downwind of you, both in front of you and behind. Check for windsurfers (they are fast), surfers (hard to see) and of course kitesurfers. Before you send that kite back, allow for people changing direction; e.g:if a big wave is about to land on a windsurfer or kitesurfer who is going out through the waves in front of you, he will have to turn.. so don't jump! If someone is approaching the shallows at the beach, he will likely turn to come out again. Even though he will be in the wrong for turning without looking it's about common sense. If you have taken off observing this principle all should be fine. Occasionally during big jumps someone going out may have gybed back underneath you and put himself/his kite in your landing zone. Politely request he looks before he turns next time... perhaps he will have been terrified into this realisaton anyway. (IMPORTANT NOTE: In some confined spaces like behind breakwaters, sandbanks or sea walls, where jumping on the way in in the flat water is the whole point of riding at that location, refer to Gybing/Turning/Transitions... Don't gybe into the jumping area unless it is clear.. If a pattern is set up where people stop before they turn and look... everyone will be able to enjoy the spot. Be considerate, you will get your turn in the jump zone. Example locations: Kite Beach Maui, Whitstable point UK, Scheveningen breakwaters Holland, Vada breakwater Italy, Sharks Bay South Africa, Cherating Malaysia.. and any temporary tidal lagoons anywhere in the world.) Wave Riding locations: Here windsurfing wavesailing rules apply with some additions. The first person riding on the face of a rising swell, owns that wave. If two people gybe onto a wave at the same moment, the person upwind owns that wave, the downwind person MUST gybe out. Riders may not join a wave downwind of a rider coming in on that wave. Downwind wave rides are fast and furious, and the rider may not be able to stop.. so stay OFF the wave, get your own. If you join upwind of him on the wave, you can only use that wave to go upwind or straight in, stay clear. You cannot follow him downwind or you may collide with him if he crashes. It's not your wave, behave accordingly. Where possible do not obstruct a wave rider with your kite. Cruising in behind a wave with your kite hanging over the next wave in front will hinder a waveride for the guy in front. You are in a wave location, ride accordingly. In any case cruising in behind waves is likely to get you landed on by someone coming out over the waves. Ride the waves or go somewhere else. Passing in a Wave location: Use sense, a waverider may not be able to stop, plan for this on your way out... stay upwind of them. If you are riding a wave coming in, consider the riders coming out, they may be having trouble getting through waves, they may not be able to see you, plan accordingly. Notes for Learners: Do not gravitate toward a pack of kitesurfers that are flying up and down on the water. Unfortunately beginners and those already capable of kitesurfing mix about as well as barrage balloons and aeroplanes.. So for now, take yourself out of the way, DOWNWIND of the pack where this is possible. You will have less distractions and nobody shouting at you to get your kite down low etc.. People will respect you for doing this and you will get a more positive response if you need advice. If you launched on your lonesome and suddenly end up surrounded by buzzing kitesurfers, keep your kite low over the land (if it is safe to do so) while you ready your board. If it really gets too busy, you would do better to move. It may seem unwelcoming but we have all been through it... you WILL make many friends in kitesurfing, but this will happen back on the beach. We are a friendly bunch really! As long as we can kitesurf! With beaches getting closed to us left, right and centre there is considerable pressure on space sometimes. See you at the beach! Disclaimer: At all times safety is the over riding priority. While these rules are to be followed for the benefit of kitesurfing in general, including improved safety, if following the rules would endanger any person then these rules must be departed from at the discretion of the rider. All liability, responsibility and risk ultimately lies with the rider. -
Kitesurfing in Crowds... Rules of the Water. Kitesurfing in crowds can be both an enjoyable experience or a complete nightmare, depending on the interaction of the riders. With increasing crowds these days some knowledge of how to ride amongst others is essential for all of us to enjoy our day on the water. Whether you are a complete beginner or you are an expert, these Kitesurfing Rules are for you. Nobody can jump safely if someone up front turns without looking, and innocent beginners may not realise that they are stopping 20 kitesurfers from kiting as they stand in a pack with their kite up. So, for all our sakes, please read the following for guidance on kitesurfing with others. Take your own location and conditions on the day into account and adjust accordingly... all safety, liability and responsibility lies with the you, the rider. Read on.... Kitesurfing Rules! ------------------------ Standing/Walking upwind with your kite: High/Gusty winds: Most accidents happen in this situation. Don't stand around with your kite up. Get out on the water or get your kite down as soon as possible. Light winds/Safe open beach: If you are walking upwind or standing, keep your kite low and over the land so that others may kitesurf past you, upwind on the water. This is especially important in onshore light winds and at lagoons when people kitesurf along close to the beach in the flat water. Remember: Your kite will be in the way even if you are 30m away from the water! Keep it low. Passing on the water: In line with windsurfing/sailing, if two riders are heading together on the same line and there is doubt who is tracking higher upwind, the rider on Starboard Tack has right of way (the guy with right shoulder forward). The guy on Port Tack must lower his kite to ensure a clean pass. HOWEVER if you are on starboard tack and the other rider seems to be cutting upwind better than you, DON'T fight for upwind place, you are not on the same line so the Starboard Rule does not apply, lower your kite and go downwind of him. Be polite, and consider buying his kite/board...! Gybing/Turning/Transitions: In line with windsurfing/sailing: YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS WHEN YOU ARE TURNING. You must look back before swinging your kite to change direction. Look for windsurfers and kitesurfers. This is very important if you enter an aerial transition. Look back first... and look back and UPWIND for a kitesurfer who may be 20ft in the air and drifting down behind you. He cannot change direction, he could not have known you would gybe.. and it is likely that you will be hit. You are in the wrong... so look first. If you plan to turn soon, turn and look around to see what is going on around you. It helps. Jumping: Before jumping check the area downwind of you, both in front of you and behind. Check for windsurfers (they are fast), surfers (hard to see) and of course kitesurfers. Before you send that kite back, allow for people changing direction; e.g:if a big wave is about to land on a windsurfer or kitesurfer who is going out through the waves in front of you, he will have to turn.. so don't jump! If someone is approaching the shallows at the beach, he will likely turn to come out again. Even though he will be in the wrong for turning without looking it's about common sense. If you have taken off observing this principle all should be fine. Occasionally during big jumps someone going out may have gybed back underneath you and put himself/his kite in your landing zone. Politely request he looks before he turns next time... perhaps he will have been terrified into this realisaton anyway. (IMPORTANT NOTE: In some confined spaces like behind breakwaters, sandbanks or sea walls, where jumping on the way in in the flat water is the whole point of riding at that location, refer to Gybing/Turning/Transitions... Don't gybe into the jumping area unless it is clear.. If a pattern is set up where people stop before they turn and look... everyone will be able to enjoy the spot. Be considerate, you will get your turn in the jump zone. Example locations: Kite Beach Maui, Whitstable point UK, Scheveningen breakwaters Holland, Vada breakwater Italy, Sharks Bay South Africa, Cherating Malaysia.. and any temporary tidal lagoons anywhere in the world.) Wave Riding locations: Here windsurfing wavesailing rules apply with some additions. The first person riding on the face of a rising swell, owns that wave. If two people gybe onto a wave at the same moment, the person upwind owns that wave, the downwind person MUST gybe out. Riders may not join a wave downwind of a rider coming in on that wave. Downwind wave rides are fast and furious, and the rider may not be able to stop.. so stay OFF the wave, get your own. If you join upwind of him on the wave, you can only use that wave to go upwind or straight in, stay clear. You cannot follow him downwind or you may collide with him if he crashes. It's not your wave, behave accordingly. Where possible do not obstruct a wave rider with your kite. Cruising in behind a wave with your kite hanging over the next wave in front will hinder a waveride for the guy in front. You are in a wave location, ride accordingly. In any case cruising in behind waves is likely to get you landed on by someone coming out over the waves. Ride the waves or go somewhere else. Passing in a Wave location: Use sense, a waverider may not be able to stop, plan for this on your way out... stay upwind of them. If you are riding a wave coming in, consider the riders coming out, they may be having trouble getting through waves, they may not be able to see you, plan accordingly. Notes for Learners: Do not gravitate toward a pack of kitesurfers that are flying up and down on the water. Unfortunately beginners and those already capable of kitesurfing mix about as well as barrage balloons and aeroplanes.. So for now, take yourself out of the way, DOWNWIND of the pack where this is possible. You will have less distractions and nobody shouting at you to get your kite down low etc.. People will respect you for doing this and you will get a more positive response if you need advice. If you launched on your lonesome and suddenly end up surrounded by buzzing kitesurfers, keep your kite low over the land (if it is safe to do so) while you ready your board. If it really gets too busy, you would do better to move. It may seem unwelcoming but we have all been through it... you WILL make many friends in kitesurfing, but this will happen back on the beach. We are a friendly bunch really! As long as we can kitesurf! With beaches getting closed to us left, right and centre there is considerable pressure on space sometimes. See you at the beach! Disclaimer: At all times safety is the over riding priority. While these rules are to be followed for the benefit of kitesurfing in general, including improved safety, if following the rules would endanger any person then these rules must be departed from at the discretion of the rider. All liability, responsibility and risk ultimately lies with the rider.
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You can launch and land on your own and open cell foils become more stable in higher winds. LEis just start darting all over the place... And as you will have little help in high winds you can launch and land the Sabre on your own like a Blade. Safe... the 9.5 Sabre will go up to 30 knots from 14m LEI weather. Plus it jumps better and will last 5 years instead of 5 months.
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Hi Guys, MGS thanks for letting me know about this thread. (I love your avatar MGS). I tend to use the Sabre on High wind/Gusty days when I might use a 6.6 but the water is too choppy for two line or the launch is too gnarly for getting in bindings under a maxed blade. I have used 9.5 mostly. It's wind range (for me with bindings and fully maxed- for big air) is up to 30mph+, from 18 knots. Wind below that I would use the 8.5 or 10.5... unless I am in a side shore wave location when the Sabre is the bit of kit to use. The 7m is a top kite too (fast but predictable) and there is some overlap with the 9.5 in terms of power, as there is with 11.5/9.5. The reason is the depowering range is so large on the Sabres(much more than Leis). Of course nothing compares to the Blade3 for upwind ability and jumping, but the Sabre does jump well when maxed and the air/float is more solid than on an LEI. I would probably only use the 7m in a gale or for wave riding in v high winds as I have the 9.5.. They are NOT relaunching, but the bonus is you can launch and land on your own in hi winds just like the Blade. (Cf the nightmare of relaunchable foils that reaaly need a launch from downwind instead of the edge of the wind and then just wont land/sit/die in high winds) The Sabre, with that said, has front vents that are fairly small and I have got away with a brief smack in the water (not recommended). Kite loops and handlepasses are all possible with similar leash setups to Leis on the Sabre for the adventurous.. Cheers Chris:cool: MGS I am going to steal your avatar, morph it into something similar but different and replace mine... hope you dont mind...
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Kitesurfing in Crowds... Rules of the Water. Update.
ChrisC replied to ChrisC's topic in General Kiting
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Kitesurfing in Crowds... Rules of the Water. update
ChrisC replied to ChrisC's topic in Kite Surfing
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Kitesurfing in Crowds... Rules of the Water. Kitesurfing in crowds can be both an enjoyable experience or a complete nightmare, depending on the interaction of the riders. With increasing crowds these days some knowledge of how to ride amongst others is essential for all of us to enjoy our day on the water. Whether you are a complete beginner or you are an expert, these Kitesurfing Rules are for you. Nobody can jump safely if someone up front turns without looking, and innocent beginners may not realise that they are stopping 20 kitesurfers from kiting as they stand in a pack with their kite up, fumbling for their board. So, for all our sakes, please read the following for guidance on kitesurfing with others. Take your own location and conditions on the day into account and adjust accordingly... read on.. Standing/Walking upwind with your kite: High/Gusty winds: Most accidents happen in this situation. Don't stand around with your kite up. Get out on the water or get your kite down as soon as possible. Light winds/Safe open beach: If you are walking upwind or standing, keep your kite low and over the land so that others may kitesurf past you, upwind on the water. This is especially important in onshore light winds and at lagoons when people kitesurf along close to the beach in the flat water. Remember: Your kite will be in the way even if you are 30m away from the water! Keep it low. Passing on the water: In line with windsurfing/sailing, if two riders are heading together on the same line and there is doubt who is tracking higher upwind, the rider on Starboard Tack has right of way (the guy with right shoulder forward). The guy on Port Tack must lower his kite to ensure a clean pass. HOWEVER if you are on starboard tack and the other rider seems to be cutting upwind better than you, DON'T fight for upwind place, you are not on the same line so the Starboard Rule does not apply, lower your kite and go downwind of him. Be polite, and consider buying his kite/board...! Gybing/Turning/Transitions: In line with windsurfing/sailing: YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS WHEN YOU ARE TURNING. You must look back before swinging your kite to change direction. Look for windsurfers and kitesurfers. This is very important if you enter an aerial transition. Look back first... and look back and UPWIND for a kitesurfer who may be 20ft in the air and drifting down behind you. He cannot change direction, he could not have known you would gybe.. and it is likely that you will be hit. You are in the wrong... so look first. If you plan to turn soon, turn and look around to see what is going on around you. It helps. Jumping: Before jumping check the area downwind of you, both in front of you and behind. Check for windsurfers (they are fast), surfers (hard to see) and of course kitesurfers. Before you send that kite back, allow for people changing direction; e.g:if a big wave is about to land on a windsurfer or kitesurfer who is going out through the waves in front of you, he will have to turn.. so don't jump! If someone is approaching the shallows at the beach, he will likely turn to come out again. Even though he will be in the wrong for turning without looking it's about common sense. If you have taken off observing this principle all should be fine. Occasionally during big jumps someone going out may have gybed back underneath you and put himself/his kite in your landing zone. Politely request he looks before he turns next time... perhaps he will have been terrified into this realisaton anyway. (IMPORTANT NOTE: In some confined spaces like behind breakwaters, sandbanks or sea walls, where jumping on the way in in the flat water is the whole point of riding at that location, refer to Gybing/Turning/Transitions... Don't gybe into the jumping area unless it is clear.. If a pattern is set up where people stop before they turn and look... everyone will be able to enjoy the spot. Be considerate, you will get your turn in the jump zone. Example locations: Kite Beach Maui, Whitstable point UK, Scheveningen breakwaters Holland, Vada breakwater Italy, Sharks Bay South Africa, Cherating Malaysia.. and any temporary tidal lagoons anywhere in the world.) Wave Riding locations: Here windsurfing wavesailing rules apply with some additions. The first person riding on the face of a rising swell, owns that wave. If two people gybe onto a wave at the same moment, the person upwind owns that wave, the downwind person MUST gybe out. Riders may not join a wave downwind of a rider coming in on that wave. Downwind wave rides are fast and furious, and the rider may not be able to stop.. so stay OFF the wave, get your own. If you join upwind of him on the wave, you can only use that wave to go upwind or straight in, stay clear. You cannot follow him downwind or you may collide with him if he crashes. It's not your wave, behave accordingly. Where possible do not obstruct a wave rider with your kite. Cruising in behind a wave with your kite hanging over the next wave in front will hinder a waveride for the guy in front. You are in a wave location, ride accordingly. In any case cruising in behind waves is likely to get you landed on by someone coming out over the waves. Ride the waves or go somewhere else. Passing in a Wave location: Use sense, a waverider may not be able to stop, plan for this on your way out... stay upwind of them. If you are riding a wave coming in, consider the riders coming out, they may be having trouble getting through waves, they may not be able to see you, plan accordingly. Notes for Learners: Do not gravitate toward a pack of kitesurfers that are flying up and down on the water. Unfortunately beginners and those already capable of kitesurfing mix about as well as barrage balloons and aeroplanes.. For now, take yourself out of the way, DOWNWIND of the pack where this is possible. You will have less distractions and nobody shouting at you to get your kite down low etc.. People will respect you for doing this and you will get a more positive response if you need advice. If you launched on your lonesome and suddenly end up surrounded by buzzing kitesurfers, keep your kite low over the land while you ready your board. If it really gets too busy, you would do better to move. It may seem unwelcoming but we have all been through it... you WILL make many friends in kitesurfing, but this will happen back on the beach. We are a friendly bunch really! As long as we can kitesurf! With beaches getting closed to us left, right and centre there is considerable pressure on space sometimes. See you at the beach!
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Kitesurfing in Crowds... Rules of the Water. Kitesurfing in crowds can be both an enjoyable experience or a complete nightmare, depending on the interaction of the riders. With increasing crowds these days some knowledge of how to ride amongst others is essential for all of us to enjoy our day on the water. Whether you are a complete beginner or you are an expert, these Kitesurfing Rules are for you. Nobody can jump safely if someone up front turns without looking, and innocent beginners may not realise that they are stopping 20 kitesurfers from kiting as they stand in a pack with their kite up, fumbling for their board. So, for all our sakes, please read the following for guidance on kitesurfing with others. Take your own location and conditions on the day into account and adjust accordingly... read on.. Standing/Walking upwind with your kite: High/Gusty winds: Most accidents happen in this situation. Don't stand around with your kite up. Get out on the water or get your kite down as soon as possible. Light winds/Safe open beach: If you are walking upwind or standing, keep your kite low and over the land so that others may kitesurf past you, upwind on the water. This is especially important in onshore light winds and at lagoons when people kitesurf along close to the beach in the flat water. Remember: Your kite will be in the way even if you are 30m away from the water! Keep it low. Passing on the water: In line with windsurfing/sailing, if two riders are heading together on the same line and there is doubt who is tracking higher upwind, the rider on Starboard Tack has right of way (the guy with right shoulder forward). The guy on Port Tack must lower his kite to ensure a clean pass. HOWEVER if you are on starboard tack and the other rider seems to be cutting upwind better than you, DON'T fight for upwind place, you are not on the same line so the Starboard Rule does not apply, lower your kite and go downwind of him. Be polite, and consider buying his kite/board...! Gybing/Turning/Transitions: In line with windsurfing/sailing: YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS WHEN YOU ARE TURNING. You must look back before swinging your kite to change direction. Look for windsurfers and kitesurfers. This is very important if you enter an aerial transition. Look back first... and look back and UPWIND for a kitesurfer who may be 20ft in the air and drifting down behind you. He cannot change direction, he could not have known you would gybe.. and it is likely that you will be hit. You are in the wrong... so look first. If you plan to turn soon, turn and look around to see what is going on around you. It helps. Jumping: Before jumping check the area downwind of you, both in front of you and behind. Check for windsurfers (they are fast), surfers (hard to see) and of course kitesurfers. Before you send that kite back, allow for people changing direction; e.g:if a big wave is about to land on a windsurfer or kitesurfer who is going out through the waves in front of you, he will have to turn.. so don't jump! If someone is approaching the shallows at the beach, he will likely turn to come out again. Even though he will be in the wrong for turning without looking it's about common sense. If you have taken off observing this principle all should be fine. Occasionally during big jumps someone going out may have gybed back underneath you and put himself/his kite in your landing zone. Politely request he looks before he turns next time... perhaps he will have been terrified into this realisaton anyway. (IMPORTANT NOTE: In some confined spaces like behind breakwaters, sandbanks or sea walls, where jumping on the way in in the flat water is the whole point of riding at that location, refer to Gybing/Turning/Transitions... Don't gybe into the jumping area unless it is clear.. If a pattern is set up where people stop before they turn and look... everyone will be able to enjoy the spot. Be considerate, you will get your turn in the jump zone. Example locations: Kite Beach Maui, Whitstable point UK, Scheveningen breakwaters Holland, Vada breakwater Italy, Sharks Bay South Africa, Cherating Malaysia.. and any temporary tidal lagoons anywhere in the world.) Wave Riding locations: Here windsurfing wavesailing rules apply with some additions. The first person riding on the face of a rising swell, owns that wave. If two people gybe onto a wave at the same moment, the person upwind owns that wave, the downwind person MUST gybe out. Riders may not join a wave downwind of a rider coming in on that wave. Downwind wave rides are fast and furious, and the rider may not be able to stop.. so stay OFF the wave, get your own. If you join upwind of him on the wave, you can only use that wave to go upwind or straight in, stay clear. You cannot follow him downwind or you may collide with him if he crashes. It's not your wave, behave accordingly. Where possible do not obstruct a wave rider with your kite. Cruising in behind a wave with your kite hanging over the next wave in front will hinder a waveride for the guy in front. You are in a wave location, ride accordingly. In any case cruising in behind waves is likely to get you landed on by someone coming out over the waves. Ride the waves or go somewhere else. Passing in a Wave location: Use sense, a waverider may not be able to stop, plan for this on your way out... stay upwind of them. If you are riding a wave coming in, consider the riders coming out, they may be having trouble getting through waves, they may not be able to see you, plan accordingly. Notes for Learners: Do not gravitate toward a pack of kitesurfers that are flying up and down on the water. Unfortunately beginners and those already capable of kitesurfing mix about as well as barrage balloons and aeroplanes.. For now, take yourself out of the way, DOWNWIND of the pack where this is possible. You will have less distractions and nobody shouting at you to get your kite down low etc.. People will respect you for doing this and you will get a more positive response if you need advice. If you launched on your lonesome and suddenly end up surrounded by buzzing kitesurfers, keep your kite low over the land while you ready your board. If it really gets too busy, you would do better to move. It may seem unwelcoming but we have all been through it... you WILL make many friends in kitesurfing, but this will happen back on the beach. We are a friendly bunch really! As long as we can kitesurf! With beaches getting closed to us left, right and centre there is considerable pressure on space sometimes. See you at the beach!
