New to kite skating :)

[m.klinge]

Hiya ppl

Ive recently bought some skikes as i kinda like rollerskating (Been skating the past 15 years, both speed, distance og street). Mostly because i thought they would fit better for distance than my others, wich i might add they dont as theyre extremly hard to use but its good exercise

Then i read about kite surfing that i kinda wanted to start doing, but i dont really have the time and place to do it - so long story short i found out that my skikes prolly would be fine for kite skating

As ive nerver flown any power/traction kite ive started by ordering an ozone imp III trainer kite - that ive heard should fit ok for some light traction...

So right now i need to practice my kite skills - so any advice on that?

//M

Ps. As you might see im danish - i hope its ok for me to use this forum as theres not much kiteskating going on in denmark

[Spartan]

Hi M.klinge,

there isnt any problem using this site for you its for every one no matter where in the world you live in.

In google, enter Doom wheels kite skates www.doomwheels.com

click kite skates. skroll to learn to kite skate

George

[Oooo]

hey M.Klinge and a big welcome to EK !!!!! from AUSTRALIA , and as you said you need to learn to fly your kite ,if you have someone to help this is good if not there is a lot of experence on here !!, Now first thing don't go out on a realy windy day as this can lead to you or others getting hurt !! take it slow first get to know the kite and what it dose then practise ,if you need video's i think there are some on here i'll have a look or hopefully GOZ will see this and post the links for you and as you live in DENMARK you will be able to get into snow kiting if you skie !!! now thats one you will prob like eh!! but as for the rest best of luck

regards mike

[.Joel]

In google, enter Doom wheels kite skates www.doomwheels.com

click kite skates. skroll to learn to kite skate

Or you could just follow this link : http://www.doomwheels.com/kiteskating/learn.php

Some good information on that page.

Regards,

.Joel

[m.klinge]

Thanks for the welcome and the fast replays

Ive read the article on doomblades and spartan guide on this site (As well as every other post on this subforum ) - but i thought you might have additional information that i could put to use

How about using my kite - as its kinda small compared to the ones i can see you guys use?

//M

[Spartan]

How about using my kite - as its kinda small compared to the ones i can see you guys use?

//M

Mate, at the moment the small kite is adequate, but remember even a small kite in big winds can spank your ass (Hurt you). Use the small kite for now cause you need to get your balance and confidence on the skates.

After a good amount of flying time should you go out and buy a larger kite.

Now with a larger kite go for a Ozone Access 8m, that is the kite, and the size, I used the most in almost all conditions, It is a great entry level, beginer to intermediate kite.

Spartan

[m.klinge]

Mate, at the moment the small kite is adequate, but remember even a small kite in big winds can spank your ass (Hurt you). Use the small kite for now cause you need to get your balance and confidence on the skates.

After a good amount of flying time should you go out and buy a larger kite.

Now with a larger kite go for a Ozone Access 8m, that is the kite, and the size, I used the most in almost all conditions, It is a great entry level, beginer to intermediate kite.

Spartan

Yea that was the main reason i bought a trainer - for a second i was just afraid that it would be too small

Thx for the advise on a bigger kite - im hoping to see some winds this weekend at get it in the air for the first time

//M

[Spartan]

Ps. This is the 8m Access and one other issue is to make sure you get some protective gear.

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[Oooo]

her is a link that may help too but yes as sparten has said start small and learn to fly then work up http://www.kite-buggiers.co.uk/ and goz has given me another i'll post next , hope this helps

regards mike

next one http://www.racekites.com/howto/buggy01.asp there you go ,NOW the next thing if you want help book a hoilday to aussie an come see us not much snow here in Queensland !!!!!

A lot of this is buggy but how the kite should be flowen is the same for most kites .

[m.klinge]

her is a link that may help too but yes as sparten has said start small and learn to fly then work up http://www.kite-buggiers.co.uk/ and goz has given me another i'll post next , hope this helps

regards mike

next one http://www.racekites.com/howto/buggy01.asp there you go ,NOW the next thing if you want help book a hoilday to aussie an come see us not much snow here in Queensland !!!!!

A lot of this is buggy but how the kite should be flowen is the same for most kites .

Ahh thx alot

Well its not often theres enough snow that kite skating would be an option here in denmark, but once in a while it does happen

Ill check out the links when i get home from work

//M

[JKS]

Hey M ..... welcome to the forum

Its always good to meet folk from afar /// stick around .... there is a great mix of people here

COOL pic George .... you do look well padded

Marty

[Spartan]

COOL pic George .... you do look well padded

Marty

Ye very well padded I know mate. But when you hit a tree at speed, its like that old saying.

Once bitten.....Twice shy... Im not taking any more chances.

[Spartan]

COOL pic George .... you do look well padded

Marty

Ye i know the padding is a bit of over kill, but when you hit a tree at speed, as I have ( its a bit of a joke with the boys down here)

Its like that old saying, Once bitten...twice shy.

[JKS]

I sure didn't mean it that way George .... in fact I was admiring the knee/shin pads

I think you are wise to pad up, especially for your 'mode' of transport and the thrills that come with it. I remember the tree incident (It wasn't that long after that I got my own body armor)

[Spartan]

I know you where complementing mate. I just felt I should tell the story behind all that armour. Its a pain in the ass If you ask me. But ye it is an extreme sport

[m.klinge]

I know you where complementing mate. I just felt I should tell the story behind all that armour. Its a pain in the ass If you ask me. But ye it is an extreme sport

Speaking of padding - are your knee pads some kind of ice hockey padding or what kind? I havnt see those types annywhere in the skate shops ive visited in the past few years...

//M

[Spartan]

Yes they are Ice hockey knee guards.

Normal knee guards are usless for kiting, no matter what sort of land kiting you do.

Why I hear you ask?..... Well, because they are designed for just impact, not inpact and drag.

There's been many times when I've landed on my knees, then draged along the ground and scraped my knees so bad, because the knee guards, while I was being dragged by the kite along the ground, were at that stage around my ankles.

These hockey guards dont move.

[JKS]

I have found the cheaper k-mart ( .. yes, I know) also tend to erode the skin from the back of your knees. the joys of learning the hard way ... lol

Another fine point was the way they are designed to form a tiny tiny rip on the 'first' use and then rip the same amount each and every time you peel the velcro. I guess this is a built in safety feature so they 'never' get that old

Hockey pads something symbolic about using hockey pads

Marty

[m.klinge]

Yes they are Ice hockey knee guards.

Normal knee guards are usless for kiting, no matter what sort of land kiting you do.

Why I hear you ask?..... Well, because they are designed for just impact, not inpact and drag.

There's been many times when I've landed on my knees, then draged along the ground and scraped my knees so bad, because the knee guards, while I was being dragged by the kite along the ground, were at that stage around my ankles.

These hockey guards dont move.

Well that make kinda sense - but i havnt really thought about it before

So ive had my first hour of flying with my imp - and i must say im impressed how much pull 3,5 square meters worth of foil can do when in the air- and there was today little to no wind at all

I can see why you should have respect for the forces thats working when you fly a kite - other than that it was extremly funny to try it out

I can see now that the first 100 hours worth of kiteskating the trainer imp will do just fine for me

//M

[Spartan]

So ive had my first hour of flying with my imp - and i must say im impressed how much pull 3,5 square meters worth of foil can do when in the air- and there was today little to no wind at all

I can see now that the first 100 hours worth of kiteskating the trainer imp will do just fine for me

//M

M, You mentiond in one of your first couple of the threads that we were using large kites compared to what you're got,

but I'll just let you know that your 3.5m IMP, which is a fixed bridal, would have similar power to most 6m Depower kites.

[Spartan]

I remember when I was using my Imp when I first started on my skates aswell. Mine was a 2.5M

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[JKS]

Hey George,

What would you generally prefer as a first choice these days ... Fixed or De-power ?

(for Kiteskating)

and when did they stop being called Doomwheels ?

Marty

[SoutherlyBuster]

m.klinge,

The protec knee pads are pretty good. I use them for Roller skating, skating+kite and landboard+kite. They don't come off and I've done of few knee slides on them as well. I have a write up on them on the EK at:

http://www.extremekites.com.au/other-reviews/safety-gear/protec-knee-pads-%11-bmx-20081004470/

If you get the protecs make sure you get the BMX type, not the street pads. The BMX's plastic caps will not get torn off their rivets like the street pads do when you have a fall in the grass. The street pads tend to dig into the grass and then fail, whereas the BMX's do not dig into the grass.

When you start out it's a good idea to protect your backside, especially the tail and of your spine. I use a 25mm thick piece of latex foam rubber sheathed in a ripestop nylon bag (so it slips in and out easy) and stuff that between my harness and my pants. There are also speciallised pants called "crash pants" which do a similar job (I have never worn them). A helmet is one of the most important safety items. If you are heading out on conrete foot paths, then a set of leather gloves should also be worn, the garden glove variety will do and are plenty tough enough.

A tip on stopping. Slowly bring the kite to the top, then slowly steer the kite in the opposite direction you are travelling. Do this too quickly and you will be launched off your feet. Then once you get the hang of it, whilst you are turning the kite you turn the direction of your skates and continue in the opposite direction. If you are limited to foot paths, pick on with cross wind, ie wind travelling 90 degrees to the foot path.

[Spartan]

What would you generally prefer as a first choice these days ... Fixed or De-power ?

(for Kiteskating)

I recon if a person hasn't had any kiting experience, should start off with a small fixed.

But as you get into jumping its depower all the way.

Personaly as you do grabs and rotations, I dont want to be looking for handls on landings.

With the depower you know where the bar is at all times, and easy to un twist the lines with an easy spin of the bar. There's been situations where I've tryed to do the same with handles and they get caught in the lines, Dangerous.

and when did they stop being called Doomwheels ?

I realy dont know, but I think the name change was to get more people into the sport. Not to many people would be interested in a sport that was named Doomwheels or Doomblades. Also when we all stated using smaller wheels, the sport go alot safer, the larger wheels to dangerous for jumping.

[m.klinge]

Thx for the info on the padding question - im also looking for some shorts with padding on the legs and tailbone (I guess thats the right term) like the ufo soft padded shorts (Can bee see here: http://www.surfogski.dk/Default.aspx?ID=145)

But if you guys have other brands you know works well in terms of durability and comfort please speak up

I tried handing my wife the kite yesterday - she though it was quite fun, so perhaps i need to buy her another kite also

//M