Strops Posted February 5, 2008 Report Posted February 5, 2008 Hi is this a good mid range kite for buggying? Quote
Chris S Posted February 5, 2008 Report Posted February 5, 2008 I buggy with a 3m Legend, 16st (ah umm). Depends what you call mid range, I use mine best in 20mph+ but if your lighter then maybe you'd get going in a little less. If your thinking of buying one for this range then depending on your budget there may be better options. Quote
Strops Posted February 5, 2008 Author Report Posted February 5, 2008 well the other day i was out the wind was 16mph but gusting to around 30mph i had my beamer out and that was abit difficult in the gust. so i decided to get my 2.3 out that got me moving but only a little bit. so i though i need to fill in the gap from a 2.3 to a 5m. budget is very little around 65 sqiud or so. Quote
Rushmore Posted February 5, 2008 Report Posted February 5, 2008 go for the airlink instead. I've seen people uggy with the legend and It doesn't look spectacular. Also youll have to walk back upwind! Quote
custheyder Posted February 5, 2008 Report Posted February 5, 2008 The legend will get you back upwind... not spectacular, but it will. Anyone who can't has some technique issues IMO. simple. Quote
Chris S Posted February 5, 2008 Report Posted February 5, 2008 Legends do go upwind. As said previous its not spectacular but a good stable kite good to learn buggying with. Not sure what else you would get on that budget even second hand. Quote
Rushmore Posted February 5, 2008 Report Posted February 5, 2008 it would be great to get started with though, go for it Quote
c quad madness Posted February 6, 2008 Report Posted February 6, 2008 seriously rushmore, the leg end is fine at going up wind. Quote
wjsawyer Posted February 7, 2008 Report Posted February 7, 2008 If I were you I would wait a bit, pansh is jsut comign out with another race kite(they are having a design competition endign the 14th, on panshforum.com) it looks like a much improved airlink. the legend is a good kite, but what Ive heard is that the upwind ability isn't great Quote
Strops Posted February 7, 2008 Author Report Posted February 7, 2008 thanks all for the advice i think im going to wait unitl i get some more money cheers Quote
UshCha Posted February 8, 2008 Report Posted February 8, 2008 I have the Legend 5.5 and have a friend with a 3m. They are a great begginers kite. I have run the 5.5 against a Blade 4.9 and it compared very well except at the lewer end of the wind range for the 4.9 blade when the material for the blade shows its merits. I would say go for the Legend but the handel lines fail on the strp end. But if you are learning I alaways recommend no harness anyway. Harnesses teach bad flying if used to early. and even with buying new handels its great value. If you get really good you may want a better kite but by then you will know what you want. Buying a high value kite only to find its not the one you want for the next 10 years is not fun. Quote
custheyder Posted February 9, 2008 Report Posted February 9, 2008 The Flexi Blade and Legend cannot and should never be compared together. They are designed with totally different design objectives. simple. Quote
Chris S Posted February 9, 2008 Report Posted February 9, 2008 Chalk and cheese springs to mind. Quote
UshCha Posted February 9, 2008 Report Posted February 9, 2008 Simple, Chris S, I would be interested in your flying experience of Legends that leads you to such definative statements about the comparison of a Legend and a Blade. For instance which blades and which Legend sizes have you flown. Quote
Chris S Posted February 10, 2008 Report Posted February 10, 2008 @UshCha. I have a 3m Legend (and 2m Legend and 5 and 8m Aces) so have some flying experience of these. Also have a Blade IV 4m and I can tell you the Legend or Ace just aren't in the same league. Suspect majority of others would agree. Aces are getting there but still no contest. Not knocking the Legend at all, its an excellent kite to learn buggying with. I let my 8 year old daughter fly the 3m Legend by herself, wouldn't dream of letting her fly the Blade Quote
-Olly- Posted February 10, 2008 Report Posted February 10, 2008 they are different kites, one made by a company that makes superb kites the other that is more towards budget kites (nothing wrong with the pansh's) they are just differnet kites. Quote
FO Kite Posted February 10, 2008 Report Posted February 10, 2008 I don't think Flexi will like you calling their kites "budget" F/O Kite Quote
custheyder Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 I have flown and owned a 3m Blade III, 6.6m Blade III, 4.9m Blade IV. In terms of Legends, 2m and 5.5m. The reason for the statement is that the Blade is designed as a high performance, relatively high aspect ratio kite with lift and good flying skills required to get the best from it. The Legend is a low aspect ratio, low lift kite designed for stability and user friendliness. The Pansh Ace is nearer the mark with the Blade, higher aspect ratio and lift... The Pansh Blaze (widely touted as a Blade copy... LMAO nothing like... is somewhere between the two.) The Legend is a good kite for what it does... but it's not a Blade or ever tried to be. simple. Quote
Trikbitz Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 What does the new race kite look like Quote
bonefish Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 just save up and get a rage ! sorted Quote
custheyder Posted February 13, 2008 Report Posted February 13, 2008 What does the new race kite look like It's got a higher aspect ratio than any of the current race kites ( I know because we've laid it ontop of them ... Yak, Combat, Nitro ) It has 4 lines of internal bracing and a fully bridles wing tip, which all in all makes it a very ridged foil in the sky. The number of vents has been limited so the majority of the cells are closed. The profile in the trailing edge is straighter than the others. Quality has been stepped up as well. The edges of the internal cross bracing are all rolled and stitched, which for something people will not generally see is a surprising piece of detail. Although there are elements of every race kite ever made in the mix I do not believe this to be a direct copy of any current race kite. On first impressions, it performs very well. But I'll leave any definative statements till I've had more time with it in the air. I only have a prototype, so details could change. simple. Quote
Trikbitz Posted February 13, 2008 Report Posted February 13, 2008 What does the new race kite look like It's got a higher aspect ratio than any of the current race kites ( I know because we've laid it ontop of them ... Yak, Combat, Nitro ) It has 4 lines of internal bracing and a fully bridles wing tip, which all in all makes it a very ridged foil in the sky. The number of vents has been limited so the majority of the cells are closed. The profile in the trailing edge is straighter than the others. Quality has been stepped up as well. The edges of the internal cross bracing are all rolled and stitched, which for something people will not generally see is a surprising piece of detail. Although there are elements of every race kite ever made in the mix I do not believe this to be a direct copy of any current race kite. On first impressions, it performs very well. But I'll leave any definative statements till I've had more time with it in the air. I only have a prototype, so details could change. simple. Do you have any pics of he kite Quote
Ri chie Posted February 13, 2008 Report Posted February 13, 2008 john, the new race kite looks like a pkd combat imagine that with pkd scrubbed off and pansh written instead... oh and it doesnt have the funky cell entries... Ri chie ps off to find a piccie for you Quote
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