sunsation Posted September 8, 2007 Report Posted September 8, 2007 Hi everyone, this is my first post. I have a question about the Blade 4.9 and the rage 6.0. I want a lifty kite. The Blade is disigned for that, but is it big enough to get me in the air with ease? Or can i better take the rage 6.0 for that do to it's size? Hopefully someone knows the answer and/or have some expirience to share with me. Thanks allready and greets, Sunsation. Quote
windy Posted September 8, 2007 Report Posted September 8, 2007 As is usual for these type of questions, it depends on how heavy you are. However, between those two kites, the Blade has more lift, regardless of a person's pie-count. Quote
sunsation Posted September 8, 2007 Author Report Posted September 8, 2007 Sorry, i forgot, i am 75 kilogramms. I live in-land so the wind is more gusty. Greets. Quote
windy Posted September 8, 2007 Report Posted September 8, 2007 Sorry, i forgot, i am 75 kilogramms. I live in-land so the wind is more gusty. Greets. Yeah, but aren't the Netherlsands flat? :D Yep, given enough wind, either kite will get you in the air. The blade more so. Quote
sunsation Posted September 8, 2007 Author Report Posted September 8, 2007 So a Blade 4.9 will suit me more then a Rage 6.0? In other words, a Blade 4.9 gives me more lift and hangtime then a Rage 6.0? Sorry for this moob questions. Quote
MrJoyce Posted September 8, 2007 Report Posted September 8, 2007 the 6m rage will hang you for longer just because of the size difference. Tbh it would be better to compare the 4.9 blade with the 4.7 rage.....the blade is a lot more powerful, but in gusty conditions can have an element of death. A 6m rage would be very smooth, tends to handle gusts slightly better and the power is more progressive. Quote
windy Posted September 8, 2007 Report Posted September 8, 2007 the 6m rage will hang you for longer just because of the size difference. No, it won't! You'll go higher and stay up longer with the 4.9. (and thats any of the versions of the 4.9 blade, even the markIII ) Quote
jlmusic Posted September 8, 2007 Report Posted September 8, 2007 the 6m rage will hang you for longer just because of the size difference. No, it won't! You'll go higher and stay up longer with the 4.9. (and thats any of the versions of the 4.9 blade, even the markIII ) what's wrong with the mk3? genuine question, im looking for a 4.9 at present and apart from the IV having the obvious difference of the adjustable bridle, which is the next best mk to go for? and what are the different characteristics of each? cheers jim Quote
windy Posted September 8, 2007 Report Posted September 8, 2007 Hi, jlmusic I was just being a bit facetious there, dude. I've owned a mark I, II and III Blade 4.9 and had quite a lot of time on the fourth version and out of them all, i was least keen on the third, but don't get me wrong the III is still a beast of kite and would give you plenty of smiles for your bucks. To be honest, thinking back, the first version was probably the least best but it was the first ever four line i owned, so reckon i view it through rose tinted oakleys. Quote
sunsation Posted September 8, 2007 Author Report Posted September 8, 2007 I know this is the Flexifoil forum, but does someone have experience with a Ozone Haka 7.0? Quote
CJ-311 Posted September 9, 2007 Report Posted September 9, 2007 Hi everyone, this is my first post. . The Blade is disigned for that, but is it big enough to get me in the air with ease? Sunsation. 1st of. hell yes it is, i just got my blade IV 4.9M on thursday and it is immense, go for the blade you'll love it forever 2nd, welcome to the forums Quote
CJ-311 Posted September 9, 2007 Report Posted September 9, 2007 oh, sunsation i'm going out soon and we've got winds of about 20mph here, i'll try get a few clips of me jumping so you can see how lifty a 4.9 is Quote
revilo88 Posted September 9, 2007 Report Posted September 9, 2007 the 4.9 in any of the Mk's is a complete beast. Do not compare it to other manufactures directly to its size , im 14 stone and in 20 mph it is downright scary! Quote
Nathy-d Posted September 11, 2007 Report Posted September 11, 2007 4.9 blade any day of the week, i've got one, lifty as hell and will keep you there with the right conditions, Rage 6, nice kite, will lift, but will also dump very badly at times, although the blade is a way more scary kite, it has nevr dumped me in a lift once, fantastic peice of kit!!!! Quote
fuzzycloud Posted September 20, 2007 Report Posted September 20, 2007 4.9m blade. I've got one, and I'm the same weight as you and get lifted easily! The rage's are designed to have minimal lift, so you probably won't get as much air, even with the 6.0. Go with the blade. Quote
MrJoyce Posted September 20, 2007 Report Posted September 20, 2007 I have to argue for the Rages, the 'minimal lift' is a lie lol, I can go just as high with my 4.7 R as with a 4.9 BIV, its all about technique tbh. However, on the subjects of 7m HAKA's. A couple of mates have them, they have a habit of folding up, turn very slowly but are lift MONSTERS. They also fly very fast, so good for speed runs on landboard (though if this is going to be your first kite, I wouldn't recommend it) Quote
Junior Posted September 20, 2007 Report Posted September 20, 2007 bull cr@p!!!^^^^ no way can u have the same sorta jumps on the rage:), 10 times more lift and hangtime on the blades Quote
windy Posted September 21, 2007 Report Posted September 21, 2007 its all about technique tbh. or lack of it. :D Nah, seriously, I'll agree that a rage does not have, "minimal" lift, a sky-tiger or the old Q range of quadrafoils had minimal lift for a powerkite, but a rage does have loads less than a blade and in the same (and resonable amount of) wind, one should be going higher and longer with a 4.9 blade than a 6m rage. don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that rages are ****. In fact, they are a superb range of kites being stable, steady and the power is nicely progressive and of course they do have a certain amount of lift but all out jumping machines, they ain't. Quote
Gregga Posted October 9, 2007 Report Posted October 9, 2007 my m8 who iz 80kg got lifted like 20ft in the air on hiz blade 4.9. get a blade but the winds were 30mph Quote
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