markusdobbs Posted January 11, 2006 Report Posted January 11, 2006 Just wondering wot everyone thinks of Hayling Island as a kitesurf spot. Its my local and to me its really great,top place,always packed with kites when the sandbar is out! Also, how much does everyone pay to use their beaches as i dnt c why you should have to pay to use it!(E.g join local club) Any guys from here go down there? http://www.hayling.co.uk/images/gallery/101__hayling.jpg http://www.hayling.co.uk/images/gallery/104__hayling.jpg Quote
kitesurfa Posted January 12, 2006 Report Posted January 12, 2006 Just wondering wot everyone thinks of Hayling Island as a kitesurf spot. Its my local and to me its really great,top place,always packed with kites when the sandbar is out! Its good if you 're local and is the only beach you use - waist of time if you live nowhere near the coast... MEMBERS ONLY Quote
extremekitesurf Posted January 12, 2006 Report Posted January 12, 2006 MEMBERS ONLY images/smilies/mad.gif Yeah i dont really understand the logic of that. If all beaches were members only then no-one would be able to kitesurf on another beach!! I'm sure everyone at Hayling likes to go to other beaches and kitesurf there...... Surely if you're insured you can kitesurf wherever you want, as long as its not banned. I think its all down to the golf club owning the beach. Quote
markusdobbs Posted January 12, 2006 Author Report Posted January 12, 2006 Hey i know wot you mean!If you want to go down to Wittering,i hear its pretty expensive. And also joining Hayling Kitesurfing Association,what have we got out of them...nothing!!they jst took our money! Quote
npeac Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 didnt you get access to a kitesurf venue or are you too shortsighted to see that. didnt you get a rashie which offsets the cost quite nicely. i have been there and they tolerate visitors quite nicely as long as your not a numptey. the vibe i got was visitors are welcome if its a 1 off but dont take the P, if your gonna use the beach then buy the rashie Quote
markusdobbs Posted January 13, 2006 Author Report Posted January 13, 2006 haha shortsighted,actually i could of jst used it anyway without being a member. btw i do have a rash vest,only gd thing,nd cos the golf club owns the beach anyway so im paying over £400 a year to use the course so should be able to use the beach for free!ha Quote
blowmeharder Posted January 14, 2006 Report Posted January 14, 2006 Not 1 to rub it in but beaches are all public owned in sunny Scotland , no one can deny you your rights to the beach , no beaches up here have bans isnt that how it should be???? You have to pay to use a beach??? surely not ?? Quote
Galokin Posted January 14, 2006 Report Posted January 14, 2006 Hey i know wot you mean!If you want to go down to Wittering,i hear its pretty expensive. And also joining Hayling Kitesurfing Association,what have we got out of them...nothing!!they jst took our money! Last time i heard someone talking about Wittering kite club, i think it was around £15 or summin for the year? Im not a member, but come the summer i might join up so i can fly over the winter months. Quote
markusdobbs Posted January 14, 2006 Author Report Posted January 14, 2006 Agree! It should be like in Scotland! Quote
andymapp Posted January 14, 2006 Report Posted January 14, 2006 Wish I was still in the army based at Thorney Island cos that beach was great and very private too.I wasnt into kite surfin back in 1991 but boy what I would do to get on that beach. Any way all beaches should be public and I cant understand how anyone can claim rights to a beach. Quote
extremekitesurf Posted January 14, 2006 Report Posted January 14, 2006 Wish I was still in the army based at Thorney Island cos that beach was great and very private too Sounds awesome will have to check it out some time. Anyone here kitesurf there? Quote
markusdobbs Posted January 14, 2006 Author Report Posted January 14, 2006 Wow!Didnt know you could kitesurf around Thorney Island,have to check it out yeah.. Yep,i dnt c how people claim rights for beaches either,its like saying you need a licence to sunbathe in the summer down on the beach!!!Crazy!! Quote
kitesurfa Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 Last time i heard someone talking about Wittering kite club, i think it was around £15 or summin for the year? Im not a member, but come the summer i might join up so i can fly over the winter months. £15.00 is the WW Buggy Club - to go Kitesurfing at west wittering it will cost you over £200 for a years membership. Quote
extremekitesurf Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 to go Kitesurfing at west wittering it will cost you over £200 for a years membership. What thats crazy!! How can the club claim rights to the beach? Surely the club have no power to prevent non members from kitesurfing there seeing as they don't own the beach? I agree with insurance, but not with charging £200 to use a public beach. Quote
T42 Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 Hope this helps to explain the cost of membership to West Wittering Wind Surfing Club. Believe me, over the course of a year with parking prices the way they are around here it doesn't work out too bad. http://www.westwitteringbeach.co.uk/buttons/spacer.gifWEST WITTERING PRESERVATIONIn late 1951 it became known that the Church Commissioners were in discussion with either Billy Butlin or the National Union of Mineworkers with a view to establishing a holiday complex at West Wittering. The Commissioners then owned all the foreshore and coastal farming land from and including East Head and Snowhill Green to the newly built estate at Jolliffe Road south of the main Cakeham Road.A small group of local residents, headed by Phillip Whitehead (founder of Whiteheads, Chartered Surveyors in Chichester – now GA) and John Widdows (senior partner of Thomas Eggar, Solicitors) formed the 'West Wittering Preservation Trust' in an attempt to protect the land associated with the car park. The car park had been running as a successful commercial venture since the early 1920's and it was assessed that the Commissioners would want at least £22,000 for the area including and bounded by East Head, Coastguard Lane, the playing field (now leased to the village school) and the Car Park Road up to the junction with Pound Road. The Chichester District Council was approached by the West Wittering Parish Council to see if they would help but to no avail, so it was left to the local residents to raise the money themselves. In the event 126 residents subscribed to a new company and the West Wittering Estate Limited was born. In July 1952, the company bought the land above for £20,546.14.9d – including stamp duty and legal fees. The company's main objectives were then and remain to this day: the preservation of the beach and waters adjoining the company's land for the safe and peaceful enjoyment of the public and the preservation of the rural and undeveloped nature of the company's property and its surroundings. As well as anticipating some return on their investment, the members also looked to the car park to provide sufficient funds to carry out these objectives. The membership has now grown to over 300 and as shares become available they are snapped up by local householders. Also in July 1952, 48 residents formed a separate company – Cakeham Manor Estate Limited. For the princely sum of £16,062 this company bought 199 acres of coastal farmland, 13 acres of greensward, Cakeham Manor and other properties including the undeveloped plots on East and West Strand, Berry Barn Lane and the two derelict cottages at the entrance. These subscribers did not apparently expect any return on their investment other than rental from the farmland. In May 1964, East Head was gifted by West Wittering Estate Limited to the County Council who passed it on to the National Trust. In November 1984 the company entered into a management agreement with English Nature covering all the grazing land between the Car Park Road and Snowhill Creek, all of this area and East Head are now within the Chichester Harbour Conservancy SSSI (site of special scientific interest). For this reason the land is protected from any form of development that could disturb its present rural nature. In October 1988 the householder shareholders of Cakeham Manor Estate were again approached and sufficient funds were raised by 34 subscribers to buy a further 91 acres of land for £236,000. This is the farmland which separates the urban sprawl of Bracklesham and East Wittering from the main bulk of West Wittering. Here too the subscribers could anticipate no return on their investment so they invested their money solely to safeguard their local area. In recent years the car park company has invested several hundred thousand pounds in improvements in the facilities and safety there; this programme is a never ending one. The Board of Directors is ever conscious of its responsibility towards what can be as many as 15,000 Sunday visitors and conscious too of the inconvenience caused to local villagers by the sheer volume of cars visiting the car park. Quote
markusdobbs Posted January 15, 2006 Author Report Posted January 15, 2006 Yeah thts jst insane completely!!Someones gotta sort it out! Quote
extremekitesurf Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 I agree with insurance, but not with charging £200 to use a public beach. errr apparently WW beach is actually privately owned, which would explain the high prices... Quote
markusdobbs Posted January 15, 2006 Author Report Posted January 15, 2006 Oh and maybe if the beach at Hayling is owned by the Golf Club, then they are charging kitesurfers but why dont they charge people who are sunbathing!! Quote
extremekitesurf Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 i guess its all just to prevent a complete take over of the beach by kitesurfers. if there's a club then there's more control over who uses the beach, which is a good thing. Quote
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