spooky Posted July 19, 2005 Report Posted July 19, 2005 I'll fill you in on whats happening in a bit, sorry watching CSI Jon Quote
Coyote Posted July 19, 2005 Report Posted July 19, 2005 So a Frenzy has been on the roof for 3 weeks? I can't believe its still there! Not good... Please post the pics . Quote
mick Posted July 19, 2005 Report Posted July 19, 2005 Don't wanna sound rude but has this guy heard of a leash. Quote
kitedude Posted July 19, 2005 Report Posted July 19, 2005 i doubt that there is anyway in hell that the building mangments co. will let any body go up and get the kite. if there was an accident the insurance would be crazy. the only way they could let some one up ther eis if it were their won trained staff or a company which specialises in the likes. Quote
Furry Ginger One Posted July 20, 2005 Report Posted July 20, 2005 Surely now that the kite is on their property and is a potential hazard, they have a duty of care to remove it under health and safety???? Quote
spooky Posted July 20, 2005 Report Posted July 20, 2005 Hi ok,heres what we have got. A week last Friday some one had a bit of a mess up and dropped their kite on the roof of the Bus Station, on advise teh chap asked teh Bus Company if he coudl go up and get it and they said NO. Reasons given was it was asbestos? Though that is not a problem unless irt is invoolved in fire or becomes a dust? (NB they did not have an asbestos management folder anyway BUT they said they had some workmen in the following week who would be up there anyway, who woudl deal with it. A week later it was still there, so I managed to convice a couple of chaps from work it would be a good training exercise (ie no charge), I cleared it with teh Duty manager, who was not even awre there was a kite up there!! Sounds like the are not to concerned as it is stuck there causing no problems etc?? Anyway of we went with the Hydralic Platform. Problem being the building is big and the only side we could get to had permenat obstructions, so we could not get close enough with the HP to physically touch/reach it. Got with in 8 metres So we tried to us the height of the HP to lift it clear. Problem. The roof is not asbestos, but Asbestolux (safer) but not very strong. It is fitted to teh beams using big bolts, which stcik up about 2-3 inches, just right for the entire bridle to get caught on, but also for the 4x20m+ of lines to get caught on. Result, trying to clear the lines from bolts ended up with two broken lines (and do not hold out much more for the condition of the others) and a kite that is still firmly fixed to the roof. Action? Only way I can see round it is to get onto the roof, now IMHO if you stuck to the beams (whcih are quite far apart) you shoudl be fine, but odds on you may need crawling boards. Then it would just be a case of un hooking the bridle and rolling kite up as you go (no training needed etc). Biggest hurdl will be getting teh Bus Company to say yes, as they are concered with the safety of teh roof, and the factit is asbestos, sofearful of liability etc? Jon Quote
Jangla Posted July 20, 2005 Author Report Posted July 20, 2005 Don't wanna sound rude but has this guy heard of a leash. The kite collapsed after a jump and landed on the roof - leashes aren't the issue. Quote
tttonyyy1599968643 Posted July 20, 2005 Report Posted July 20, 2005 If you can get within 8ft and this chap doesn't mind not getting his kite back, then you could melt it to the roof with a paraffin flame thrower (obviously take a fire extinguisher or two as well). At least it won't blow away then? Are the joists steel and the roof unpainted? Quote
MadAndy71 Posted July 20, 2005 Report Posted July 20, 2005 http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40061000/jpg/_40061663_rocketman203250.jpg Thats what you need Quote
Jangla Posted July 20, 2005 Author Report Posted July 20, 2005 http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40061000/jpg/_40061663_rocketman203250.jpg Thats what you need Imagine the fun you could have on no wind days! Quote
Jangla Posted July 20, 2005 Author Report Posted July 20, 2005 If you can get within 8ft and this chap doesn't mind not getting his kite back, then you could melt it to the roof with a paraffin flame thrower (obviously take a fire extinguisher or two as well). At least it won't blow away then? Are the joists steel and the roof unpainted? I'm gonna suggest that taking a torch to anything even remotely related to asbestos is a baaaad idea Quote
J2NZ Posted July 20, 2005 Report Posted July 20, 2005 Poor dude loosing his Frenzy! Hope you guys get it sorted! p.s All be wary of any 'too cheap to be true' 12m Frenzys for sale on Ebay in the next few days - "12m Frenzy for sale (kite only) slight bridle stretch..."... ;-) Quote
fly boy benny Posted July 20, 2005 Report Posted July 20, 2005 im guessing ppl think its a frenzy cos kitin mad had a pop at me cos i dissed his arc so what kite is it sumbody please clear it up:D Quote
Dynamic Duo Posted July 20, 2005 Report Posted July 20, 2005 The only way i can think of recovering the kite without touching the roof is maybe an expensive one but would work. A crane with man lifting cradle. John Quote
tttonyyy1599968643 Posted July 20, 2005 Report Posted July 20, 2005 im guessing ppl think its a frenzy cos kitin mad had a pop at me cos i dissed his arc so what kite is it sumbody please clear it up:D The Bus Company initialy said that they had some roof contractors going up there last week, but as yet that hasnt materialised. Tbh i wouldnt want to try and untangle a 12m Frenzy from a roof in this wind (gusting 25 up here today). The clues are all there! An arc probably wouldn't have tangled in the first place, what with lack of bridles an' all. Quote
fly boy benny Posted July 20, 2005 Report Posted July 20, 2005 The clues are all there! An arc probably wouldn't have tangled in the first place, what with lack of bridles an' all.ok maybe i shud stop skim reading and read stuff properly next time hehe:eek: Quote
rod_bunny Posted July 20, 2005 Report Posted July 20, 2005 hee hee If it was an arc - it wouldnt have luffed and collapsed in the first place I'll get me coat then.... Quote
spooky Posted July 20, 2005 Report Posted July 20, 2005 My understaning was he wiped out on a small jump, grabbed the bar again which had spun 180' so went into a big power loop. At which point he went flying across the grass very fast. We've all been there when a kite is power looped, not much you can do except hold on and watch that 25m+ "menatl" safety zone dissapear rather quickly. Yes he may have been a tad close in the first place?? But result was that after the power loop, or rather during it, he covered enough ground so that the kite flew on to the roof, rather than luffed or collapsed? Yes other kites may not have got caught up so easily, but then again with other kites he would not have been having any fun lol But seriously, all kites have their down sides, you just have to decide which ones you can live with PLUS, make sure that you fly in a manner/location that will allow for any of these? Lets try an dlearn from his mistake, rather than having to make them ourselves to learn by? Best of luck, Jon Quote
Jangla Posted July 20, 2005 Author Report Posted July 20, 2005 Good point spooky - if you're learning to jump, do it in the middle of the field and not at the end of a run! Anyway, I'll likely be up there this afternoon after work so I'll see what state it's in (if it's still there). Quote
kiting mad Posted July 20, 2005 Report Posted July 20, 2005 shame ur not up there with that arc ha ha ha ha id rather fly an arc than a frenzy Quote
kiting mad Posted July 20, 2005 Report Posted July 20, 2005 im guessing ppl think its a frenzy cos kitin mad had a pop at me cos i dissed his arc so what kite is it sumbody please clear it up:D i wasnt having a pop at you pmsl ! just seeing if i could get a reaction and i did lmao Quote
sledgeracer Posted July 20, 2005 Report Posted July 20, 2005 I'm gonna suggest that taking a torch to anything even remotely related to asbestos is a baaaad idea Thought the whole idea of asbestos is that it was fire proof - go with the fire idea! Quote
fly boy benny Posted July 20, 2005 Report Posted July 20, 2005 its not still up there is itvery much so, sort of thing u wud do aint it Quote
hobokiter Posted July 20, 2005 Report Posted July 20, 2005 funny thing is that is was there flying about half-hour before this all happened and it wouldn't happen to me as i fly arc's so just wind your neck in will you ben Quote
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