Baggsy Posted February 12, 2007 Report Posted February 12, 2007 had this conversation with jason thought it might be of interest to others.. my intention is to buy a 07 Best Waroo 13.. From: Jason To: Baggsy Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:29 am Subject: Waroo What would you want with a Waroo? I think you should try a few kites out Bags. From: Baggsy To: Jason Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:34 am Subject: Re: Waroo hey jason , firstly price comes into it ... as i would love a naish 12 shockwave ..they are just out of reach at the moment .. not interested in LF Assult to many issues with the bridle setup.... and as you said ..Cabrinah are getting a bad rap lately .. From: Jason To: Baggsy Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:29 am Subject: Waroo No worries, what I was hinting at is you should try as many kites as possible yourself. Before parting with your cash and he is right ..but there is not many places where i can get a go at other kites :cry: as we are 1000 klms away from the closest demo area , we just go with what is local and that is best kites in Mackay. even his demos are all down the shinshine coast.. but at least we can see them in the flesh! Quote
Don Posted February 12, 2007 Report Posted February 12, 2007 Baggsy, How often do you stack your kite? I fly a foil on the water. Try to get hold of a good depowerable foil. A Frenzy, Air Evo or some such for a trial. Why? There's a myriad of reasons why they fly better, and a few good reasons why they are not good on water. But if you are a good "Pilot" and can guarantee not to stack frequently then you have access to all of the positives. No pumping No leaks Safety(collapse when landed) Infinitely better handling qualities and always will be Better wind range Durability And different! Water kites have developed because people learn to fly on the water, and of necessity need to be relaunched. If you can get around this problem you open up access to equipment which will always out-perfom blow ups! Get out there! Quote
schmik Posted February 12, 2007 Report Posted February 12, 2007 Don, Baggsy, don't forget Peter Lynn arcs (not really foils) and flysurfers. I have flown both and enjoy both. Arcs are super stable.... super super stable. I mean let go of the bar and have a cup of tea with your eyes shut stable. The flysurfers on the other hand are pure foil performance with the ability easily water relaunch. So far i only own the 7m psycho2. It is unreal... good enough for me to have ordered a 13m psycho3. Problem with FS is that they are exepsenive. I can say though that the performane is and quality/durability is A1. I believe that Peter Lynn venom 19m will be sold soon (it'll go cheap so if ya want it make a silly offer). Don, I have to come to Anna Bay soon (we have met before...blue/red/white frenzy). If it's onshore we'll land kite. If it's cross shore we'll kitesurf and if it's off shore... dune jump or get drunk? got a 4wd? we could tow the mountain boards behind the 4wd? I can bring a frenzy, a flysurfer and an ARC. baggsy, sorry to highjack the thread. As far us 'pump ups' go I would also consider the ozone insticnt range. They are built tough! schmik Quote
Pete Posted February 12, 2007 Report Posted February 12, 2007 Baggsy, are saying that you can not get access to demo gear through Briskites or other retailers? I am sure that if consult with someone such as Jason, as to your requirements, he could recommend a shortlist of kites suitable to your requirements. Do this with a couple of different suppliers if you wish to get the full spectrum of available equipment then compile your own shortlist. After that, see which kites are available as Demo. For instance, Jason has a selection of Demo gear for this very reason.... If you speak to Goshen, maybe he could also help. cheers Pete Quote
.Joel Posted February 12, 2007 Report Posted February 12, 2007 Pete i *think* a demo of a kiteboarding kite is a complete different ballgame to a foil. Admittedly I don't know the ins and outs of what our sponsors here do for demo outside of foils. But some of the kitesurfing kites are huge, so shipping them to and fro is very very pricey, they also weigh a fair bit. Just my guess as to why more people don't send kitesurfing kites around the place. Personally I wouldn't want to be caught too far offshore with a foil on water like an Air Evo or a Frenzy. My advice is kiteboarding kites are kiteboarding kites for good reason, they are suited to the water. Regards, Joel Quote
Baggsy Posted February 12, 2007 Author Report Posted February 12, 2007 thanx guys, the big issue is bowen is it is a small town and with 8 kiters and possiblly another 10 on the beginners list . ther is not a big sales area to pull. but as for arcs and foils , yes they are great ....and i have owned them in the past..but i have yet to play with the new GII or scorpion .. so i am a bit blind in what is avaliable... Quote
toby1kenobi Posted February 12, 2007 Report Posted February 12, 2007 Baggs I'm sure a lot of us are in the same situation, hundreds of k's to the nearest demo's etc. I have actually never demo'd a kite before buying one, I use the international forums to learn about the good and bad aspects of different kites and decide on whats best for me. I now have a mixed quiver of both Hybrid LEI's, Flysurfer foils and a Venom has snuck in there too. I'm sure the Waroo's a fine kite, plenty of folks seem happy with them. The price seems good until you include the bar and lines. Retailers might not like this, but I think the wisest way to buy kites is to get recently second hand models that have not had much use. If you sell the kite in 12 Months you will lose far less money than buying new. Hope you're getting some wind.... Quote
Baggsy Posted February 12, 2007 Author Report Posted February 12, 2007 absolutly tobyone, i have a naish shockwave that i got very cheap as last years model. and yes BEST dont come with a bar .. did you know that to replace a shockwave bar is over $600 bucks !! so don't leave it behind on the beach (as one chap did in Cairns) ... :cry: there are so man choices of kites i have reaserched as much as possible... but price always starts the elimitation process. then comes performance and avaliabitlty. after that, is who is keen to push the product the most .. and is able to show the best results Quote
toeside Posted February 15, 2007 Report Posted February 15, 2007 waroos are made to be the best by best. i will be selling my waroos to go the pros if you are interested. toeside Quote
Baggsy Posted February 15, 2007 Author Report Posted February 15, 2007 LET US KNOW WHEN YOU WANT TO SELL TOESIDE, AS THERE ARE OTHERS HERE WHO WILL WANT THE CHANCE TO BUY TOO Quote
Steve Posted February 28, 2007 Report Posted February 28, 2007 Baggsy, clear your forum inbox, tried to send you a PM, but it bounced because your inbox is full. Quote
Baggsy Posted February 28, 2007 Author Report Posted February 28, 2007 not sure why it was blocking but i cleared some now.. Quote
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