Rage 6m

[Lynnlad]

New kite time, being a rage flyer this seems the obviouse choice, however a 6.5 blade takes my fancy. I can see many positives and negatives with each so i really cant decide just yet, what would your views be? Does anyone have experiance with the 6m rage, not seen many reviews and what there are seem very mixed. Im in a flexi bug, flatland tricks in progress for now, but hope to jump in the future but probably a year or so away.

[smackay116]

6m is the dark horse of the rage family you might see that you can get them for less that a 1.8m new the blade 6.5 is the better kite for freestyle. The mark four is the more agressive kite so i would get one of them. ( if you get a rasta one ill cry)

[BASKETCASE1599968764]

i love my 6mt rage , in rasta !

got to be one of the best buys i've ever had of this forum. pulls like a train turns good for a biggish kite, very controlable.found it fly's best in about 10-15 mph.

what im not sure off is the bridle adjuster kit i've put on, somedays it fly's like a dream and others its a complete git, the tips fold in and get caught in the bridle it deflates , folds and falls out of the sky with as much style as a pair of wet pants.

that said i love it.

[vinylking]

Ok, so i have flown a 6m rage for 18 months now, and to be honest there are certainly better kites for buggying, as above it pulls well, and is fairly stable.

however, against a 5m flow or a 6m / 7m buster i have found it lacking.

 

My advice would be to get out there and try one alongside a couple of alternatives as the 6m rage is just not in the same league as the smaller sizes

 

Dave

[Lynnlad]

Lol again very mixed reviews, i think the AAA kits do have this tendancy, my 3.5 sometimes folds in there also, having said that tho the kit greatly improved the wind range. The rage is very cheap now, hence it seems a good and safe bet, but...that blade keeps calling for me. Like you say, i need to try before i decide. Thanks for the input so far.

[Nas]

I flew the Rage 6 m and didn't like it as much as the predecessors ,the Bullets . I fly the Rage 2.5 which I love ,the Bullets 3.5 and 4.5 regularly . For a low wind kite I would look for some aggression. I didn't find any in the Rage 6m. however a Blade 6.5 is a different animal and is a jumping kite when you get there eventually .As you get more advanced you should consider getting harnessed full time because the big size kites demand it .

I bought a BladeIII 6.6 but did not get it yet but I can't wait to fly it .

[Lynnlad]

Im now in the process of using a strop (getting used to the slight restriction in movement) and have a harness that im borrowing. Rage may be favored for now, however whats the 6.5 like for doing flatland stuff, will it want to lift me to much for ground based tricks. This lift would be nice tho for recreational days etc. grrrr i cant decide..

[Nas]

I am not too good on flat land tricks. I can do the 180 ,backward, sort of two wheels although I can't hold the line for too long. I got used to riding harnessed full time and stopped my flat land tricks progression. The other reason is there is no one to learn from. I would like to master the 360 dead man turn but after a few failed attempts I stopped.

Back to the subject the Rage 6.0 will be more forgiving and yes the Blade 6.5 will lift you out and eventually to feel comfortable flying it you will need foot straps and a lap belt . So more restrictions and less flexibility. But if you want to get into jumping eventually it has to be the Blade 4.9 or 6.5 .

[Lynnlad]

Thanks nas really helpfull, i fly alone too. Makes learning time consuming but im getting there. I think ill head for the rage due to the lift properties and learn to feel 100% in the buggy stropped harnessed and belts etc then move onto the series of blades as and when needed. I will be buying second hand so any monetry loss in the future should be kept minimal if and when i upgrade. As an inland flyer (field edged with trees) the wind can be lumpy so again rage may be suited more. Many thanks.

[Nas]

You are welcome, I learnt a lot from this forum so for me I like to return the compliment .

[Robocourier]

Flown both and they are COMPLETELY different kites.

 

The Rage is slow and predictable. Occasional bit of lift in gusts or if you wang it in a good wind. Good pull but still needs a bit of wind to keep it in the air (ie not the best low wind kite despite its size). Used to fly mine on 40's with triple A kit; bigger window lets you keep the kite moving for better power. Great fun. Wish I hadn't sold mine, tbh.

 

Blade IV 6.5, in Rasta, was the better buggy kite once you've learned to fly it static. Loads of lift and, if you fly inland, often when you don't want it. Sold mine before it killed me.

[Cerney Tonto]

Hi, I fly inland, footy pitch, common and farmers field and I've flown the Rage 6m for two years and think its money truely well spent. It's often described as slow but trust me when you get that "cheeky" inland gust over the tree behind you I can vouch for not only it's speed but also theres alot of lift! Yup, it's slower than a blade in the turn but it's far more tolerant when the inland inland curse strikes i.e. suddenly having no wind and then just as the kite lands a 20 mph gust. If you want more bang for your buck, the Rage is a great kite, mines lifted my out of the buggy, face planted me on lots of occasions and frequently rags me across a rough field covered in stones and cow pats at speeds fast enuff to make my vision blur!!! I recommend you get the pro handles as mine came with some older style flexi ones and one broke through the brake line hole.

[Cerney Tonto]

Hi, I fly inland, footy pitch, common and farmers field and I've flown the Rage 6m for two years and think its money truely well spent. It's often described as slow but trust me when you get that "cheeky" inland gust over the tree behind you I can vouch for not only it's speed but also theres alot of lift! Yup, it's slower than a blade in the turn but it's far more tolerant when the inland inland curse strikes i.e. suddenly having no wind and then just as the kite lands a 20 mph gust. If you want more bang for your buck, the Rage is a great kite, mines lifted my out of the buggy, face planted me on lots of occasions and frequently rags me across a rough field covered in stones and cow pats at speeds fast enuff to make my vision blur!!! I recommend you get the pro handles as mine came with some older style flexi ones and one broke through the brake line hole.

[Lynnlad]

Ha ha i know the feeling. I think im sold on the rage6m, its offers exactly what im after at the moment and the above two replys where great feedback. Thanks all.

[Lynnlad]

After ebay and past forum searches these dont seem to come up for sale much, would the 7m bullet or blurr be the next best thing? Anyone with experiance with these.

[Cheryl]

After ebay and past forum searches these dont seem to come up for sale much, would the 7m bullet or blurr be the next best thing? Anyone with experiance with these.

 

I was in a similar situation to you last year and was after a 6m rage to complete my set, however I couldnt find one so I bought a 7m blurr. I love the blurr but it was a massive jump from the 4.7 rage to the 7m blurr. I always felt I could have done with a kite size in between. I have recently sold my 4.7 rage and replaced it with a 5m blurr.

 

The blurrs are really nice to fly and if like me you fly a fair amount in land they handle the gusty conditions pretty well. My other half has a full set of blurrs and having flown them back to back with the rages, size for size there is quiet a difference, the blurrs have more grunt and fly much faster.

[Lynnlad]

Thanks thats a positive for the blurr, what wind range would this cover (flexi bug 11st rider) would i be looking at 8mph +

[Nas]

I flew the Rage 6 back to back with my Bullet 4.5 yesterday. The wind was variable for 20+ mph down to 15mph.

 

The Bullet 4.5 was overall the better kite in performance ,pull and stabilty IMHO .

 

I am glad I do not own this Rage 6.0, and I love my Rage 2.5 so I do not know why the 6.0 is such a non performer.

[PQ1599968802]

Funnily enough I am very happy to own my 6m Rage!

 

When I first started in a buggy it was perfect for light winds and between that and my 3.5m Blurr I had everything covered for quite a while. Admittedly now I own a quiver of Blurrs and Blade IVs it doesn't see much action but I still keep it as it is great for messing around in light winds with non kiting friends. It is super stable and predictable. It obviously can't compete on power with something like a 6.5 Blade, or even a 4.9 Blade or 5m Blurr for that matter, but I don't think that is the point.

 

Mine is in Acid, which is the best colour in my opinion!

 

PQ

[Lynnlad]

Lol, it looks massive in that pics, samba has to be the better colour :-) Im keping my eye out for one still, just depends now what comes along really. you mention power, I was thinking of a 6.5 blade would you say thats to much then, and maybe a 4.9 would be more apt, or would that not be really for low winds as i have a 4.7 rage also.

[PQ1599968802]

It's going to look big next to a 1 year old!

 

The 6m Rage (which is actually a stupid name for it) is a very different kite to the 6.5m Blade (mine is a Blade IV). The Blade accelerates and turns much quicker and has considerably more power.

 

Whereas the Rage will launch directly down wind and give your arms a little tug as it ambles through the window, if you are not ready for it the Blade will superman you before you know what's happening. The Rage will sit overhead at the zenith with no fuss or surprises, a gust and the Blade will lift you off you feet. You have to work real hard to get the Rage to lift you off the ground, even in strong winds. In light winds, run to one side with the Blade, wang it back the other way and you will be air born (don't forget to redirect!). Do that with the Blade in a strong wind and you will get seriously high for quite some time. I leave that to the experts!

 

I'm not trying to put you off, far from it, that's what makes the Blades so good for the buggy. The trouble is they are addictive and once you have one of them you will inevitably want the rest of the set.

 

The best thing to do is to have a go of one. Is there any chance you can make it down to Essex Kite Park for the next summer session? It is the 16th to 18th July. You would be very welcome to fly my 6m Rage, 7m Blurr and 6.5m Blade IV and see which one best suits you.

 

PQ

[Nas]

The owner of the Rage 6.0 is still flying unharnessed and just getting to know how to buggy. He definately prefers the Rage 6.0 to my Bullet 4.5 he finds my Bullet too grunty and quick turning .

 

I do not allow him or any beginner to fly my Blade IV 4.9 in medium to strong wind.

 

Even though I am quite experienced on days when I do not want to take chances I would fly the Bullet 4.5 or the Rage 6.0 and keep the Blade 4.9 in the bag. I fly harnessed and attached to the kite and buggy most of the time and still the Blades scare me . Right now I have the Blades 4.9 and the 8.5 ,but the 6.6 is on the way.

 

In any case I think I mentioned before if you plan to go to the bigger size kites 6m and above you will need to learn to fly harnessed because your arms won't take that much strain for too long .

[Lynnlad]

Thank you. Very good info and yet more to think over.

 

PQ that shouldn't be a problem would be nice to have a fly of a few different kites and meet some of the people on here. I will see how things go and be in touch nearer the time

[Sand-Yeti]

6 m Rage is a good kite but give some consideration to the 7m Blurr. OK it's a bit bigger but in my opinion it is better.

I have the 6.6 Blade III, 6.4 Blade II & 6.5 Blade V.

They all fly differently but the V is the one I use most of the time. It is so much smoother than the other two. The AAA adjuster makes quite a difference . I change the setting subject to wind conditions. I fitted the AAA adjuster kit to the 6.6m which, gives me an improved performance range on that kite but notas good as on the V.

 

The fact that Blades can lift you is because some flyers haven't mastered the art of flying them well. Blades perform very well for just cruising in the buggy. They can give you great acceleration although top speed performace will on par with the Blurr except Blurrs come in 5m & 7m only.

 

It is interesting that Giorgio & I travel long distances across the desert. He will be flying a 5m Blurr & I will be on the 4.9m Blade. Weight for weight, we haven't much difference but he drives a superior buggy to mine. There is very little to choose in top speeds across the sabkhas. Sometimes, he has the edge & sometimes, I have the edge, but I put that down mainly to differing wind conditons.

The same applies if he is on his 7m Blurr & I'm on my 6.5 Blade V.

 

Just few pennyworths of my experiences & observations.