Jump to content

And the underhanded dealings award for today goes to....


Recommended Posts

  • Replies 283
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted

I can't see any need for closing or even deleting the thread atm. The initial complaint (link from appozone.co.uk to abw) is solved now. So I can't see any need for further public discussion of this issue. it's something between appo and abw.

 

It will drop off page 1 fast enough.

Posted

Its turned into a he said he said match. It statred as a domain name issue and has turned in to a slagging match. If you particularly want to have a slagging match thread then start one as that. Morb has probably summed it up better than i can. and like you say Don't sensor the forum, I could go back and delete my first post and remove the whole thread, but i do believe a lock would be better (and i can't do that). let it die but dont sensor it.

Posted
Its turned into a he said he said match. It statred as a domain name issue and has turned in to a slagging match. If you particularly want to have a slagging match thread then start one as that. Morb has probably summed it up better than i can. and like you say Don't sensor the forum, I could go back and delete my first post and remove the whole thread, but i do believe a lock would be better (and i can't do that). let it die but dont sensor it.

 

I'll keep an eye on it. If it turns into a slag fest, I'll take the appropriate action.

Posted

What I was about to say just as the thread was locked:

 

I've just read Appo's response which is also very interesting, unfortunately he seems to have deleted it, a shame as its useful to see both sides of this affair.

 

I hope these threads won't be locked or deleted as I feel it's in the interests of Kite Crowd and the wider kiting community to be aware of these issues, I also feel people can make a more informed opinion when presented with all the facts which will lead to fewer displays of ignorance in future.

Posted
What I was about to say just as the thread was locked:

 

I've just read Appo's response which is also very interesting, unfortunately he seems to have deleted it, a shame as its useful to see both sides of this affair.

 

I hope these threads won't be locked or deleted as I feel it's in the interests of Kite Crowd and the wider kiting community to be aware of these issues, I also feel people can make a more informed opinion when presented with all the facts which will lead to fewer displays of ignorance in future.

 

Informed about what? It's like a scrap in a playground - no other reason for getting involved than to kick the 'looser'. Two people with a beef with one another is of no interest to me and calling for wider awareness on it sounds just like stirring the pot and spreading negativity.

 

Rasga and Luncaloco don't let this forum turn into a place where 'public' kiting figures only log on to see if they are being slagged off by anonymous people for kicks.

Posted

Skyhooked, there are certain 'public' kiting figures as you call them who are extremely unscrupulous in their business dealings, and I must emphasise that I DON'T mean Airbossworld here, I'm sure they'd be only too happy to be able to continue their shady practices knowing they are safely shielded from any kind of scrutiny or risk of exposure.

Posted
Skyhooked, there are certain 'public' kiting figures as you call them who are extremely unscrupulous in their business dealings, and I must emphasise that I DON'T mean Airbossworld here, I'm sure they'd be only too happy to be able to continue their shady practices knowing they are safely shielded from any kind of scrutiny or risk of exposure.

 

So say you - I'm no stranger to this industry myself and from my ongoing experience in it, sure people hit on tough times, shops go bust, rogue traders emmerge and vanish but it's hardly a crook fest. In fact I wouldn't even call it an industry, it's more of a bubble and so far it's managed to self regulate itself pretty well without people stirring up huge shit storms.

 

I read your thread with interest on your Dahab experience - that guy who sold you that trip I would hardly call a representative of the kiting industry any more than the bloke who flogs a 16m LEI with no safety to a beginner on eBay. I certainly would never call him a public kiting figure.

 

I'd say the kiting industry / bubble is on the whole a decent and friendly place, even if it does take a while for some things to get sorted. It certainly doesn't need this type of mud slinging and pot stirring. The people leading the sport are decent folk who want to make a living doing something they love doing.

 

One quote I think sums that up nicely was from Jurgen, the boss of HQ Powerkites who often says "Life's shit enough as it is. That's why we make colourful kites".

 

Leave the shit throwing and negativity out of it - if there is something genuine to say, post a warning about it in the proper fashion. That's how it's always worked in the past. Nicki god bless her was right about four pages back - kiting should be about fun and not all this mess.

Posted
Skyhooked, there are certain 'public' kiting figures as you call them who are extremely unscrupulous in their business dealings, and I must emphasise that I DON'T mean Airbossworld here, I'm sure they'd be only too happy to be able to continue their shady practices knowing they are safely shielded from any kind of scrutiny or risk of exposure.

 

have you asked for the thread against hooked-on to be stickyd?

 

no... after making your point and getting a solution, you let it go

 

perhaps the same approach would be suitable here

Posted

5n!tch: I've already replied to your statements in the other thread you felt you should start, without you being involved in that particular matter between appo and abw.

 

I'll copy/paste it here for you.

 

I can't see how this issue between appo and abw can be of any particular interest to the KC community. ABW bought a domain name and redirected it to their site. THAT was the initial complaint of the thread. ABW has taken the redirect off. Issued solved.

 

Whatever grieve there is between appo and ABW ... it's up to them if they want to solve it. It has nothing to do with KC whatsoever.

 

 

And please stop raging on about censorship. We've let this thread go on without interfering. The issue discussed is of no concern to KC whatsoever, therefor, no relevant posts/threads have been deleted. This is not our fight, nor should it be yours.

 

That's why I don't appreciate you comparing us to Nazis. We are all doing our very best to keep this place clean and informative. We are doing this on our own time, so there's no benefits in it for us moderators, except for the feeling that we can help this community to stay alive and grow in the future.

 

In reply to the private message you've sent me ...

 

1. No, I am not affiliated with Airbossworld and I have not been threatened by anyone regarding the content of this thread whatsoever.

2. If you had read all my posts on this thread you would have noticed my tone didn't change throughout the whole discussion. If you think differently about it, read my posts again.

3. Me, a minister of propaganda???? :eek: PLEASE!:confused:

Posted
have you asked for the thread against hooked-on to be stickyd?

 

no... after making your point and getting a solution, you let it go

 

perhaps the same approach would be suitable here

 

Boom, LET IT GO! STOP STIRRING 5NITCH!!!!

Posted

I agree, on the whole the kiting industry/scene is a decent friendly place, we wouldn't be here if it wasn't. No, I'd hardly call the bloke who sold me the Dakhla trip a big player, but he's got an impressive website and list of links and contacts, advertised on the forums too, and yet it took a little bloke like me to expose him. So much for the industry regulating itself eh?

 

I think I'll trust the little people of the world thanks, not the Big Business,Vested Interests/Governments etc.

Posted
have you asked for the thread against hooked-on to be stickyd?

 

no... after making your point and getting a solution, you let it go

 

 

Not entirely, we have an understanding that it won't happen again, to me or anyone else ;)

Posted
lunaloco, comparing you to Nazis may be a bit harsh but you did close the thread shortly after saying you wouldn't. I don't think your'e fit to be a moderator, but needs must eh!

 

1. I did not close the thread. Rasga did. Any issues with that, talk to him. He will gladly provide you with an answer.

 

2. Why am I not fit to be a moderator in your opinion? Never had complaints before. "Is it cause I is black?" [AliG] :D

Posted
lunaloco, comparing you to Nazis may be a bit harsh but you did close the thread shortly after saying you wouldn't. I don't think your'e fit to be a moderator, but needs must eh!

 

OMG, u need to go speak to someone....stop picking fights with EVERYONE!

U were sold a dud holiday.......its been sorted get over it.... go vent on another forum......

 

http://www.angryforum.com/forum/

 

have a gand, itll be to your taste......

Posted

Elliot, lol!, I'm not picking fights, I'm just a miserable bugger who likes this sort of thing!

 

lunaloco: I've pm'd Rasga about it, sorry I thought you'd done it. Not happy that u made a pm public though, very unprofessional IMO. And yes it's cos u is black, I'm well known for my racist views around here.

Posted
I Agree also. This has taken a turn for the worse. could admin or mod please either lock or delete this thread.

 

If you want to delete this whole thread you can do it yourself. By deleting your original post the whole thing will go.

 

It's your choice.

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...

×
×
  • Create New...