soggy Posted December 6, 2009 Report Posted December 6, 2009 I reckon the Envy is very close to the obsession just with much better build quality and it doesn't backstall. Havoc is a different style all together as Johnny was saying. I'm only going havoc as i prefer 4 line kites for my own personal reasons, not saying they are better than 5 line. The Hifi has similar depower as the envy and havoc and is just soo incredibly fast, a true performance machine that anyone could ride. Quote
Blue Ice Posted December 6, 2009 Report Posted December 6, 2009 The Havoc this year is definately not a looper. It is way to quick on the turning to loop well and has pivitol turning. Some will really like this for fast turning though! But i reckon this kite would be awesome in the waves and for free riding and unhooking! You still get slack in the lines when you land. Imediately you will feel comfortable on this kite if your a beginner through to a pro! Its also extremely fast through the air so will jump massive when sent! The Envy has more bar preasure, is more direct and imo, would be slightly better for freestyle than the Havoc this year. The Envy seems to have alot better low end than the Havoc, possibly due to the Envys shape, but i would say the Havoc would possibly have better top end... but both these kites have an amazing top end you you will be laughing here! Ive had the 10m Envy out in 30mph! My first impressions on this kite in about 18(ish) mph was that it wasnt going to be a boosting machine, but more of a hangtime machine... after several high wind days, i have changed my mind as this kite now does both! The Comp is totally different to both the kites in the range. It boosts better than any kite ive tried, hangtime is also great and the depower is unreal! Unhooked is where this kite excells imo, explosive pop that will have you grinning from ear to ear! Loads of slack in the lines when you land and you just feel so confident performing new powered tricks! This kite is a kite loopers wet dream! Seriously! If your pushing yourself all the time to try new tricks, then you wont be dissapointed in the perfromance this kite delivers! I would honestly say that anyone could fly all 3 of these kites from beginner to pro. But all kites feel and fly totally different so if you really want to buy one of these kites, try before you buy! Quote
soggy Posted December 6, 2009 Report Posted December 6, 2009 I would honestly say that anyone could fly all 3 of these kites from beginner to pro. But all kites feel and fly totally different so if you really want to buy one of these kites, try before you buy! Spot on Quote
Andy-j Posted December 10, 2009 Report Posted December 10, 2009 woohoo, should have my comps for the weekend!! . . . . . . Where's the wind? Quote
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