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Peter Lynn Waterfoil 3.6M
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Flexifoil Blade III
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Wipika LTR (Learn to Ride)
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I agree with all of your comments this is a very slow kite that needs considerable input to keep it moving and it has a degree of pull unlike anything else. If you can fly this kite, then it is great fun, but it takes a lot of skill to keep it in the air and you need to plan all moves, similar to driving an oil tanker. At least the pull when it comes arrives very slowly and steadily, and there is almost no jerking from high acceleration. Mine always gets attention when it comes out, and most kite flyers wnat to play. This is my social kite Mike
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Good review but would need to see the mods so I can have a go with mine, Mike
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Thought I would add some more comments following a little more experience with the kite. Buggying with this monster can be scary but is actually very easy. The hardest part is getting the kite in the air. The kite needs a good 4 to 5 mph steady wind to launch, which when the wind is that low is quite rare, it goes up and down like the proverbial, and you don't want to be launching when a 10mph wind grabs you. Once up it will fly nice and steadily and copes with the gusts and lulls well, the slow motion means that as long as you plan ahead, you should get caught badly. The kite doesn't accelerate the way the smaller kites do, so the increase in pull is always dealable with, you have time to let go if necessary. In the buggy the pull is fantastic, its great to be able to buggy in the very low wind conditions at worthwile speeds. the kite has to be kept low especially in turns otherwise the lift just pulls you out. But, with planning, and with a low kite fun can be had. I imagine braver soles would have fun jumping with this. We have used it on the water, with a little more wind I got planing for the first time, the speed of the kite gave me time to react which is important for a beginer and the lift meant that it was very easy to pull myself up onto the board, I would expect about 7 to 10 mph wind. Don't let it touch the water though or thats it until you get the sand out, and that took hours of squeezing the sand through teh mesh vents. Jumping, very easy very floaty very controlled. This is one awesome kite, with sense and planning it will do everything. It is not one for absolute beginers (no surprise there) but, I am happy flying this in unpredictable (but low) winds. As in my earlier review of it it is a very social kite, and getting one between an group would be a sensible option. I have tried it with bar and handles, I prefer the handles because of the extra control, but it is still good if slow on the bar.
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Use my waterfoil when I like a bit of vintage flying (actually have one of each) or body dragging. As long as you keep the tension on the lines up then these are good kites and very consistant in their pull. Very lifty very powerful, but just wait for it to flop and drop into the window. Fly all mine with a three line system on a bar, and this is ideal for beginners. Mike
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When flying this weekend we got the breaklines just right, overall lift became almost friendly, but very strong. Simple swinging the kite across the top of the window would lift me off the floor. Full pendulum jumps lifted us 10 to 15 feet high with 10 seconds slow hang time. Wind approximately 5 to 10 mph. The kite does need careful setting up. No breaks to fly but it needs to be easy to add just a bit to keep the kite where needed. We tried a bit of body dragging, the kite easily pulled us out of the water. Excellent fun just don't let it get into the water
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This was purchased on Saturday 23rd April from Air Born Kites in Blue Water, with the intention of getting a very low wind kite, very!! I have a quiver of kites of all sizes but no foils above 6m so I am often frustrated by the limp back syndrome in 5 mph of wind. Down to the field on Sunday, with the wind blowing at an unsteady 10 to 20mph it was a day for buggying and the new kite staying in its bag. The lines were checked and adjusted for length and the handles attached. The kite stayed in its Flexifoil bag. (A big improvement in quality over the balde II bag.) Eventually the wind dropped a bit, down to 5 to 7 mph and an enthusiastic group surround the test flyer. Rich took the kite, launched it, the kite filled slowly gently rose through the air visibly filling the kite. A shortish scud pulled Rich as the kite reached the zenith and hung there. Pendulum jumps followed with the kite high in the sky, easy floaty and long, 6 to 7 feet high and 30 feet long were regular. The queue of the old foagies then started. As a jumping kite this is a monster. It is very powerful, very slow, which means no surprises, and above all very big. It flew in a stable controlled manner, over flying slightly but not collapsing, just falling back into the window. No one had the courage (stupidity) to try it in a buggy, or a landboard, but further tests will follow. The quality of the kite is up to usual flexifoil standard and allows us to feel great confidence in hanging underneath this monster. This is probably the most social kite I own with everyone wanting to try it. If you buy one it will probably rarely come out of the bag, but when it does, you will be the centre of attention. I am looking forward to trying this in the sea, the high lift and slow speed should make good for body dragging and general fun. Overall this is a kite for the experienced and stupid, it is great fun providing lift in less than 5 mph, enough to lift 14 stone of me with no great effort, smoothly and gently. Fantastic fun. By : Tele Player
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I bought this kite as a starter to learn to use depower systems and get into kite surfing. The kite is made of a white tarpaulin material, very tough but very heavy with 5 infaltable ribs. It is not the prettiest kitesurfing kite in the world. It was bought second hand for £150 and came with a Peter Lynn Bar and depower kit and a set of lines. No instructions were provided so a great deal of experimentation was needed to work out how to set the kite up properly. The LTR can be used in 4 and 2 line mode, so a lot of time was wasted before unrolling the kite properly and finding the additional tabs for the extra depower lines. Being used to normal foils the kite was intially rigged up with the power lines to the end of the bar and the depower to the centre resulting an a backwards flying kite! Eventually the lines were attached stretched, equalised, tied to the right bits, the kite pumped up properly and ready to go. The first flight was carried out in a field in Norfolk with a steady 10 mph wind, but with a very low fog rolling in. The kite flew well, pulling evenly and steadily across the wind window, responding to the bar for direction and pull. The low aspect ration of the kite gave a strange view to the flier, a grey square with three ribs. The pull was constant and very predictable, with no major surprises. Subsequent flying in winds of up to 25 mph have confirmed this behaviour with a very enjoyable kite. Body dragging with the kite is a great hoot and good fun I will relaunch given enough wind and no waves, or more skill, but the predictablity stearability and low speed mean this is a rare necessity £150 good buy Mike By : Tele Player
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These are water relaunchable foils, with sealed valves which stop water and anything else getting in. All sizes are nearly semicircular in shape, made from fairly thin ripstop, with a full crossover bridle. I have only flown them on a bar with a three line set up, two power lines to the fron and a single killer on the brakes. A large bar is used and the break line is kept fairly slack. Inflating. The kites all need manual (pump) inflation, until they are virtually full they fly like a carrier bag, and are comp[letely rubbish. I bought mine second hand a very cheaplybecause people said they were awful and would fly. Once inflated though, the change in character. They have a thick profile need a huge volume of air for their size. Flying. Once up and flying they are normally well behaved kites, very stable with a constant pull throughout the window. Very lifty and strong pulling for the size. The 3.6 is slightly stronger than my 4m Blade II. Flight is very straight with the bar flat and responds to input very easily. A big bar is needed as these are quite big kites, a crossover might help but has not been tried. Landing. Pulling the brake line causes the kite to reverse and land very very neatly on its trailing edge and ready for action. Relaunching from this position is very simple with the kite taking off. Speed can be controlled with the brakes limitting pull until ready. If unside down the breaks will reverse the kite easily for relaunch both on and off water. If the kite lands leading edge first it very quickly rolls over and relaunches which can catch unawares, but the brakes will keep that under controlled. Downside. Gusts this is normally no problem as the kite rides gust well, but if the kite luffs it has a tendency to fold drop unpowered into the middle of the widow and power up violently. As long as tension is kept on the lines this shouldn't happen. Upside. Body dragging throught the surf with these is brilliant fun, you can dump them in the water and they relaunch 100% of the time. They are good for beginning to mountain board, slow stable and strong pulling. Leaving alone. These need staking down with a good pull on the brakes, They then sit quite happily fully inflated for ages. A short fly for top up the air and bang they are off again All in all a bit quirky, but a good kite. My youngest daughter flies the smallest and apart from the inflation time prefers it to here 2.1 little devil. By : Tele Player
