HelldogBE

gonne get me a 7&12m quiver

any links to reviews/pictures would be appreciated! cheers!

think the 5th line is pointless because relaunching a Ckite is a fair bit different than a bow. because of the bridles it will go on its back automatically when the wind catches a tip unlike Ckites (well not as easily at least) ^^

guess i'll have to try a 13m for real to make my mind up. because I want to enjoy myself starting around 15-16knots (read: not constantly pumping)

sorry to bring this old topic up but I'm interested in a quiver fuel 08's. I'm 65kg's and my boards are: -twintip 128x39 for freestyle (carved popper xt) (90-95% of the time) -5'11" waveboard (slingshot srt) use it 5-10% of the time (can't carry this along me with all the time, for example when I travel I never take it with me) -nobile skimboard also for lightwinds I was wondering what quiver I should go for?? I'm planning on keeping my 14m waroo '06 for the really light summer breezes, but whenever its 4-5bft (meaning when I can start doing real jumps and tricks I want to be on my fuels). Options would be: -7/9/13 the 13 depowers nice and should close in perfect on the 9. I'm just afraid it will be a little too slow for kiteloops etc. for size however I think it will be perfect for lowend (comparable to a 12bow). Is it slower than a 12m say... vegas or torch??? -7/11/15 the 15 will probably bore me and make my waroo useless. I don't think i'll have much benefit by buying such a big C-kite?? -7/9/11 will be one hell of a quiver for tricks, but I'll probably miss the lowend and I think the 9 and 11 will be very close! -> nice for kiteloops and tricks but i'll probably always think for damn I should have rigged the smaller of bigger size up so not get optimal use out of my kites because they are so close together?? am I making sense?? basically my biggest decision is between the 11 and 13m and then I should go for the 13m obviously because of the extra lowend I'm just scared it will be too slow for serious tricks.

yer sux if you take it easy, chillin' with the mates etc and by the time u get back on for a second session the wind is gone... or: you're absolutely going for it, doing a 3hour session. U come off, take a shower and find the wind has just gotten even better but you're completely broken so no more surfing 4 yoo

pretty tight short underneat. I don't like to have my thing dangling in all kinds of positions, tried it once without and I felt very uncomfortable :s

people who fly their kite at Zenith more than anywhere else... HTFU! people that don't dare to go beyond a few hundred metres into the sea... HTFU!! no wonder the spots get too crowded

ion2 in 5lines is sweet imo. I'd dare to say more radical than a torch3...

Go for a bow or hybrid if you're starting out on the water just now Ckites offer more performance for the diehard wakestyle kiters ,but hybrids (like the ion and atom) offer an experience very close to it, but with all the advantages of bowkites (simple relaunch, extra lowend, extra highend, much depower on the fly) Pure bowkites usually lack a bit of punch in the turns (and only start generating the real power when they fly in a straight line) so u don't get as much power in kiteloops or transitions where u turn the kite a lot. I really can't think of a way to go through the pain to start out on an old Ckite anymore, newer Ckites offer good depower aswell but still lack the extra range on lowend and topend. I think you'll get most bang for the buck from a 1 or 2 kite hybrid-quiver. depending on the wind u want to go out on the water, I'd say take a 12-12.5 atom or ion2 to start out!! u can always add a 7-8meter later on for the high winds. I suspect u don't want an extreme lowend since u landboard?? a 12 flat kite will get u going nicely in about 14Knots. I started on a flysurfer speed 10m with little depower, could plane but rarely go upwind (after about 2 months practice). The wind was rarely fit for practise, always too much or too little. Bought myself a 9 and 14meter waroo and from the first ride I could plane upwind and I could go out in way higher winds without ever having trouble of not being able to stay on the beach because the wind had increased by a few knots etc. I've heard similar stories from people switching over to Bowkites from their C's. And most people that bought old Ckites for a few bucks can't get rid of them anymore and spend their money on bows a bit later anyhow.

is it worth getting one of those huge-ass kites being 11stone?? I've got a 14m bow (waroo) and am switching down to a 12m bow on water. For landboarding the 14 pulls too much like a truck and whenever it flies steadily I find it too much of a handfull for landboarding (but then again I've only tried to landboard a few times, it's not really for me. rather wait for it to be more wind so i can rock on the water) The problem with those huge Ckites is u will only gain a few mph, and even at the lowend they will be very sensitive to lulls or riding a bit downwind toward them. Why not look at say a big foil?? it will stay up better in ultralightwind, and they don't blow to pieces when they fall out of the sky and hit sharp things leading edge first

It is!!! (from my experiences with the 06 14m, the guys on the best forum say the new 13m replaces the 14m) I ride my 14meter '06 almost exclusively in the summer. Used it 5 times maximum september till now !!! but then again what do u define as light wind... I grab my surfboard and 9m 16kts and over. While best states u can hold it upto 24knots, it really is a HUGE kite! (feels and looks like a 16meter in the air) so I don't think its fun in 20knots (while still safe to get to shore for sure!). It has lots of grunt at 12-14knots, but it becomes sensitive to backstalling under 12knots. I think the 07 is less sensitive due to the rear V-bridle?? But then again the 10meter bullaroo starts really early, and I'd dare to say... get the 15meter and only use it for really light wind!! it will pull like a friggin' truck though if u want to landboard in 10knots go for the 13meter, if u want to kite in 10knots go for the 15meter!!

I'd get it... could be stolen goods though

Go for the 7 mate. The 07 waroos got extra gunt so it'll be more like an 8 and a 12. I got a mate that rides a mutant on 7 and 12 waroo 06 and I've never heard him complain eventhough he's a lot heavier than me. The 9 is too close!! (imho) and the 7 will allow u to go out in stormy weather. The 9meter is just too big of a kite in stormy weather (since its near a 12Ckite in terms of power)

it's not just a mistake on the website... He phoned them up asking if it really was the correct price before he put down the money on the table. To me it sounds like there was a verbal agreement on the price !