Mechhead

dude, thats was shocking fast!

would one possible solution to this budget problem be to come up with a core, like the kite surf board, like the nobile 666 has a honeycomb core, and is not toatly CF, or like the core 16, where there is a core, and then a body wrapped round it you would produce a core, with a CF body, and as long as you retain the flex and stability, you could have a sound product?

any chance of a carbon long board btw?

the POV i look at is that in a wind tunnel, or i=on a stress machine or what ever, you are testing it to breaking, but in the real world those limits can drop down, so an obejct that will break at a stress of 100, may break at a stress of 100 or 90 in the hands of an expert handling it well, but it might break at 50 for some one who is not as skilled take watches, i am a SCUBA diver, and you see wrist watches that say, water proof to 100m. This is a static test, they are pressure tested to 100m, but they are not moving when these tests are done, and so when you move your watch at 30m (for example) the pressure acting on the watch can compremise it. Thats a difference of 70M! you would be peed if you landed your deck, and it snapped if you have been told pro riders ride them all the time....... PS i ride an mbs Core16 *drool* cos for me its solid, stable, work horse, can jump (rather well for me) and has some pop, but not to much, i will look at a carbon deck, when i think i can afford to spend 300 notes on deck, and would get my money back from it...... I think that is a sensible suggestion, Ive been lookin into the idea of a carbon deck simply to pimp my kitedeck but worried my lardy arse 17 stone will be too much for them, a carbon deck which is cheap and indestructable may be a good direction to go for beginners. There seem to be a few precision carbon decks out there aimed at experts so perhaps theres a niche here? I would be happy to test some prototypes with myself and some likeminded (extremely awful) landboarders! Good luck with the venture, it would be interesting to see what you come up with. Theres another company that got missed out in the list, Howla (google them), they are new, but expensive and more for downhilling i think. Russ

i know it sounds stupid, but somtimes you want to get unskilled riders on your new prop. skilled riders will be able to asses a products limits, and abilities much faster, and somtimes will not push prototypes that hard, or will not push the deck as hard as you like. A total beginner may be better positioned to actually hard core the test, by not knowing how to get the best out of it, and not knowing exactly how to land really well to make sure the board does not get hammered.... also you might want to think about those riders who do not like to jump, but love to powerslide, as this puts lots of stress into the deck, and you dont want to send out a board that beginners will buy cos they think it will makethem better, and be getting snapped and damagedones back... its basically down to makeing sure you cover the whole market, not just the pros, and good riders. I take this view from the circus skills stuff i do, where like kiting you dont look after your gear, and you basically take stuff out and abuse it all thetime, dropping stuff, throwing it around and so on, so remeber to make sure you talk to some ppl who can only just ride a deck, so you get a full overview of your product...... laterdays

my lady has just got back from the shop, she says its pretty much woems sizes left, and only that, there is an XL mens left, that would loosly fit a L, thats 150 down to 44, but thats about it they are all summer suits, and all at good prices, but with the show coming up, if you are looking for an outsianding suit and a bragin price, it might be better going there..... thanks for the heads up though cheers matt