morleyman200 Posted April 12, 2007 Report Posted April 12, 2007 after a seesion on the weekend i got my kite up and i noticed that the kite is wanting to turn to the right all the time. got the bar and lines out yesterday and i noticed the rear lines (red and grey) are the same length. but the power lines (white ones) are different lengths to each other the leesh one is the longest, even eith the leesh of it. and they are different to the red and grey ones. but on my other bar its exactly the same but it flew fine. but i thaught that all the lines are the same lenght. and you cant adjust the lenght of them what do i do. Quote
spiky_dave Posted April 12, 2007 Report Posted April 12, 2007 after a seesion on the weekend i got my kite up and i noticed that the kite is wanting to turn to the right all the time. got the bar and lines out yesterday and i noticed the rear lines (red and grey) are the same length. but the power lines (white ones) are different lengths to each other the leesh one is the longest, even eith the leesh of it. and they are different to the red and grey ones. but on my other bar its exactly the same but it flew fine. but i thaught that all the lines are the same lenght. and you cant adjust the lenght of them what do i do. How much different are the front lines? If its just a few cm - compensate on the kite pigtails as a quick solution. And again with the difference front to back - as long as its not very much, going on the basis that with stock pigtails, and a stock bar ( bar sheeted all the way in, adjuster all the way out - ie fullest power), you want equal lines, you can compensate with the pigtails for that too. DAve Quote
BIG Posted April 12, 2007 Report Posted April 12, 2007 after a seesion on the weekend i got my kite up and i noticed that the kite is wanting to turn to the right all the time. got the bar and lines out yesterday and i noticed the rear lines (red and grey) are the same length. but the power lines (white ones) are different lengths to each other the leesh one is the longest, even eith the leesh of it. and they are different to the red and grey ones. but on my other bar its exactly the same but it flew fine. but i thaught that all the lines are the same lenght. and you cant adjust the lenght of them what do i do. Try flying the kite on your other bar to see if it is a problem with your bar / lines or the kite. I suspect that one or more of the lines have streched. It doesnt take much with respect to line length to make a big difference to kite control. BIG Quote
Joe2003 Posted April 12, 2007 Report Posted April 12, 2007 swap the lines around. Put the power lines where the rear lines go, and the rear lines where the powerlines where. Then use the leaderer lines on the bar to reduce the any line difference. Quote
kitesurfa Posted April 12, 2007 Report Posted April 12, 2007 I suspect that one or more of the lines have streched. It doesnt take much with respect to line length to make a big difference to kite control. BIG Very true ... as little as half inch difference on the front lines will effect how you ARC flies. @ morleyman200 - what do you mean you cant adjust them ? Sewn loops can be unstitched and readjusted before re stitching. I have done it on my PL lines.... Check my Setup FAQ about adjusting your lines Quote
morleyman200 Posted April 12, 2007 Author Report Posted April 12, 2007 oh. how do you stich them up tho. @ dave. the front lines are about 12 cm in lenght difference. but it is the same on the other bar. but it seems to fly ok. ill get my mum to stich it as im **** lol. Quote
morleyman200 Posted April 13, 2007 Author Report Posted April 13, 2007 so all you lot are saying that the front lines should be the same length and when the kite is fully powered up the rear and the front lines should be the same lenght. Quote
spiky_dave Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 oh. how do you stich them up tho. @ dave. the front lines are about 12 cm in lenght difference. but it is the same on the other bar. but it seems to fly ok. ill get my mum to stich it as im **** lol. so all you lot are saying that the front lines should be the same length and when the kite is fully powered up the rear and the front lines should be the same lenght. 12cm different?!?! no wonder it always wants to turn. I can feel the difference from a cm or 2, 12cm it a lot different. yes to the fully powered up all lines equal, but that assumes your pigtails are right. Mx5Alan's arc rigging guide is pretty awesome for checking that kind of thing: http://www.kite-fantastic.co.uk/articles/mx5alan/peter-lynn-arc-setup-faq.html Dave Quote
morleyman200 Posted April 14, 2007 Author Report Posted April 14, 2007 if i unstich them and then just tie a knot in them like other lines are done will that work. Quote
BIG Posted April 14, 2007 Report Posted April 14, 2007 if i unstich them and then just tie a knot in them like other lines are done will that work. If you are going to tie a knot in them they need to be sleeved. If you just tie a knot in a line without a sleeve it will probably snap. If you look on the FF website there are some pictures and steps on changing line lengths BIG Quote
morleyman200 Posted April 14, 2007 Author Report Posted April 14, 2007 whats the ff website??? i think they are sleaved. there is a fabric over the actual line at the end where the loops are Quote
BIG Posted April 14, 2007 Report Posted April 14, 2007 whats the ff website??? i think they are sleaved. there is a fabric over the actual line at the end where the loops are FF website = Flexifoil website - www.flexifoil.com However they seem to have gotten rid of this section, it was called tips but its gone so sorry about that. If you have a sleeve at the end of your lines then this is not a problem then All you need to do is undo the knot or stiching on the line that needs shorteneing slide the sleeve up the line so the line is the same as the other lines and then tie a knot as befor but making sure that the knot is on the sleeve with the line inside. I hope that is clear BIG Quote
morleyman200 Posted April 15, 2007 Author Report Posted April 15, 2007 yea thenks mate. i will sort it out today. so if i put the power strap to fully powered and then put the bar at powered up all the lengths should be the same??? tom Quote
BIG Posted April 16, 2007 Report Posted April 16, 2007 yea thenks mate. i will sort it out today. so if i put the power strap to fully powered and then put the bar at powered up all the lengths should be the same??? tom Yes thats right Quote
morleyman200 Posted April 17, 2007 Author Report Posted April 17, 2007 thanks alot i have sorted it now such an im provment!!! thnaks again Quote
faster4_tec Posted April 17, 2007 Report Posted April 17, 2007 so what was the problem??? I managed to get a knot in one of my rear PL lines, was about 3" in a loose loop, made kite unflyable, nad whilst on beach couldn't figure out what it was. so packed up, went home, and several days later, after drying, I figured what it was:rolleyes: Quote
morleyman200 Posted April 17, 2007 Author Report Posted April 17, 2007 my lines had streched basicly. and i didn't know the lengths f them so thats why i asked. the rear ones were the same but the power ones were way out. now it flys like a dream!!! thanks again for all the help guys!!! Quote
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