THE SPASM Posted November 26, 2006 Report Posted November 26, 2006 Right. I can pull jumps, ride toeside, stay upwind etc so i figured my next step is to try some grabs. However whether I am weak as pussy or have lack of skill, I cant pull a jump with only one hand on the bar. Im currenty tryin it with 2 fingers either side of the depower rope but I dont seem to have the power to redirect the kite with my first 2 fingers. Anyone else have this problem. Im using a waroo. Ive ordered a chin up bar as I expect my arms are just feeble. Has anyone got any tips in the meantime? Quote
northern jim Posted November 26, 2006 Report Posted November 26, 2006 just keep front hand on bar to the side of the depower strop. Quote
maxlevens Posted November 26, 2006 Report Posted November 26, 2006 yeh, the act of pulling the bar in redirects the kite. Quote
THE SPASM Posted November 26, 2006 Author Report Posted November 26, 2006 Cheers, but if I have my front hand on one side of the bar how do I pull the kite over my head in the first place? Do you start off with both hands then let go of one? Quote
SkintMonkey Posted November 26, 2006 Report Posted November 26, 2006 Direct the kite for the jump with both hands. Release the bar with your trailing hand when you need to begin the redirect and have your leading hand in the place described above:) Quote
Westwood Posted November 27, 2006 Report Posted November 27, 2006 ride as always - one hand on either side of the depower rope, send the kite back, then remove trailing hand and grab with it. the remaining hand will keep the bar held down so you get a nice floaty jump, and also redirect the kite. in lower winds you might want to move your hands a bit further away from the centre of the bar. Quote
THE SPASM Posted November 27, 2006 Author Report Posted November 27, 2006 That seems easier but Doesn't that mean that I only make the grab when I am on the way down? or should I be able to hold the kite behind me with my front arm on the front of the bar? Does anyone pull the entire jump with just one hand? Quote
KermitStu Posted November 27, 2006 Report Posted November 27, 2006 going right to left start the jump then place your hand on the left side of the bar to redirect but only just by the rope this will cause the kite to redirect slowly giving you more hangtime to try your move at this point release either your trailing or leading hand to grab this is how i do it Quote
THE SPASM Posted November 27, 2006 Author Report Posted November 27, 2006 Gotya. Ok I can see how i can use my trailing hand to grab. but how do i use my leading hand to grab? doesnt this surely its difficult to redirect without a hand on the leading side of the bar? Quote
SkintMonkey Posted November 27, 2006 Report Posted November 27, 2006 Easy...put your trailing hand on the leading side of the bar to redirect after having used it on the trailing side of the bar to prepare for the jump. Your leading hand is therefore free to do as it pleases...grab what ever;) Best bet...reading doesnt work too well...go and try it:) Quote
THE SPASM Posted November 27, 2006 Author Report Posted November 27, 2006 Cheers skintmonkey. i take it grabbing with your trailing hand is easier then? so ind basically have to slide my trailing hand beside my leading hand on the leading side of the bar then take my leading hand off so that I can keep the bar pulled in. Sounds akward. I have been trying it loads but ive been using 2 fingers either side of the rope and 2 fingers doesnt seem enough to redirect the kite Quote
SkintMonkey Posted November 27, 2006 Report Posted November 27, 2006 yeah i guess you could. What about using the stopper ball on the depower line by bringing it further down:confused:That would stop the bar shooting upwards too much. That way you don't have to do a two hand shuffle and only really have to use one hand for controlling the kite. Guessing here now...didnt have any problems when i did em on my phantoms:) Quote
Ted Posted November 27, 2006 Report Posted November 27, 2006 For starters try this - redirect the kite as you take off and go for a tail grab as soon as you can with your trailing hand. It helps to pull the tail of your board up to your hand. You can't go for the grab soon enough. Your jump doesn't have to be huge. You can do grabs only a couple feet off the water or less. The trick is to start them early. Tail grab is most natural because you naturally redirect with the lead hand. Have fun. Quote
kiterMD Posted November 27, 2006 Report Posted November 27, 2006 If you're doing boosting grabs, just keep the kite at 12 while you're grabbing with either hand. You shouldn't need to redirect until you're about to land and have let go of the board. Quote
THE SPASM Posted November 27, 2006 Author Report Posted November 27, 2006 ok cheers. good advice. il give that a go. so do any of you jump with two fingers either side of the rope or is it just preference? Quote
KermitStu Posted November 28, 2006 Report Posted November 28, 2006 i cross my trailing hand over the the over side of the bar but only just over the other side or i end up kite looping it Quote
THE SPASM Posted November 28, 2006 Author Report Posted November 28, 2006 does that mean that at some point in the jump you have no hands on the bar? do you fly bows? Quote
KermitStu Posted November 28, 2006 Report Posted November 28, 2006 i fly a nova so i cant let go of the bar i cant explain it it happens to fast but what i guess happens is going right to left kite at 10 swing over to 1 and pull in the bar kepping your leading hand on the bar move your other hand onto the left hand side close to the depower rope when your hand is secure take your left hand of and do a grab , foot out what ever then when foot out is over with put hand back on the bar then move over hand accros its hard to explain as i just do it so try that just give it ago you may find an easyr way for you most of the time my hadn will still be on the left hand side when i land then i put my other hand on as i ride away Quote
THE SPASM Posted November 28, 2006 Author Report Posted November 28, 2006 Cheers Kermit Stu. That makes sence. Think il try grabs with my trailing hand first. Quote
THE SPASM Posted December 9, 2006 Author Report Posted December 9, 2006 That was easy! cant believe ive been messing about with 2 fingers either side of the rope. Ok whats the next one after grabs? backloop? Quote
KermitStu Posted December 9, 2006 Report Posted December 9, 2006 go for a foot out or try some 360 but 360 at first keep both hands onthhen start doing a grab with them good on you keep practising Quote
lewiss Posted December 9, 2006 Report Posted December 9, 2006 well i did aerial 180's once I'd learnt. then i did transitions. 180 transitions grabbed 180 transition. then i learnt foot out and then 360's and after that 540's. (but that's just how i learnt my tricks) different people learn tricks in different orders, so just go for what you feel like. but i would say transitions with stuff thrown in during the transition like 180's etc..... Quote
THE SPASM Posted December 10, 2006 Author Report Posted December 10, 2006 Cheers all. Just been out. grabs are fine now. and today ive managed to do a few back 360's. Only a foot off the water though. That the best way to learn? How do transitions work? cant figure it out. currently i either flip toeside and carve out or slide. dont know how to jump at the end of a run then go back the other way. any suggestions? Quote
paulie_amoose Posted December 10, 2006 Report Posted December 10, 2006 Jump transistion, Come in, scrub some speed off by edging, send the kite as a normal jump. The secret is to ensure you have scrubbed most of your speed off. Instead of going on your front hand as normal, look the other way and pull on your back hand (new front hand). Land and ride off in the new direction. Backloops, easiest way to learn is to approach some small chop at moderate speed, keep the kite fairly high in the window and your hands near the centre of the bar. As you hit the chop carve hard upwind and throw you head back over your shoulder. You will roate and as you come around spot your landing, extend your legs and pull on the front hand if required. Once you have mastered it with chop, try it on the flat using pop. Quote
THE SPASM Posted December 11, 2006 Author Report Posted December 11, 2006 Jump transistion, Come in, scrub some speed off by edging, send the kite as a normal jump. The secret is to ensure you have scrubbed most of your speed off. Instead of going on your front hand as normal, look the other way and pull on your back hand (new front hand). Land and ride off in the new direction. quote] Wont i just teabag into the sea? do i need to hold the kite at zenith for a sec before sending it low again? Quote
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