Venom2 16m V's Pulse 10m

[marman]

pooroos

 

PMSLMAO ... could that be any worse...

 

Pyspoo III anyone? lol

[sym170]

i reccommend you delete this thread, the only info you need, is that the more you try them, the closer you will be to having a clue as to what kite you're gonna get.

pimpage is just not worth it, and flysurfer flyers are some of the worst pimp star to$$ers in kiting:D:D:D:D:D (dont hit me, i speaketh the truth:D, only kidding )

 

Only thing is the i aint no PIMP!!!!!!!!!! all i am saying is my honest opinion on what kite out of the 2 i prefere! this is getting like the whole lid thing people post up a thread a few people reply saying there honest opinions then you get loads of people moaning because of what they have said...

 

I have not once said BUY A FLYSUFER PULSE they are the best kite in the world and are way better than the Venom ALL I HAVE SAID IS in my honest opinion for what sad pander wants the kite for he will be better of with the pulse!

 

As i have said BEFORE it is all down to personal preference some people prefere venoms and some people prefere pulses all depends what you want the kite for!....there is nothing wrong with flysurfer flyers!!!

 

If it was any other 2 kites and some people prefered one and some people prefered the other one then it would all come down to what they want the kite for! different kites have different flying styles and different people want different things from there kites!

 

Rich

 

1. i was joking (people who pimp, always in denial:D)

2. maybe i wasnt refering to you dude, chill ya beans:)

[AIR-S]

 

Only thing is the i aint no PIMP!!!!!!!!!! all i am saying is my honest opinion on what kite out of the 2 i prefere! this is getting like the whole lid thing people post up a thread a few people reply saying there honest opinions then you get loads of people moaning because of what they have said...

 

I have not once said BUY A FLYSUFER PULSE they are the best kite in the world and are way better than the Venom ALL I HAVE SAID IS in my honest opinion for what sad pander wants the kite for he will be better of with the pulse!

 

As i have said BEFORE it is all down to personal preference some people prefere venoms and some people prefere pulses all depends what you want the kite for!....there is nothing wrong with flysurfer flyers!!!

 

If it was any other 2 kites and some people prefered one and some people prefered the other one then it would all come down to what they want the kite for! different kites have different flying styles and different people want different things from there kites!

 

Rich

 

1. i was joking (people who pimp, always in denial:D)

2. maybe i wasnt refering to you dude, chill ya beans:)

 

Im not getting angry lol... i just dont wanna upset anyone or affend anyone... just saying that its all down to personal preference... and people saying there personal opinions..... dont want anyone to get angry with me lol

 

Rich

[Sad Pander]

Thanks for your feed back guys, all good stuff.. looking forward to flying Mr Br d's pulse again today.. Gathered so far that both kites are well worth having.. Pulse safe - Venom more hard core?

 

Hope to try with the board as well.. That always provides some entertainment for all around!

 

The missus has ageed to authourise payment for one or the other for Xmas so not long to go now!

[the_lone_wolf]

Thanks for your feed back guys, all good stuff.. looking forward to flying Mr Br d's pulse again today.. Gathered so far that both kites are well worth having.. Pulse safe - Venom more hard core?

 

if you're to believe the girls that ride them yeah, but for them eating something on it's expiry date is hardcore

 

http://www.happynowhere.net/images/hardcore.gif

[Dragon Danny]

Get a Frenzy??

[AIR-S]

Get a Frenzy??

 

Why would he want to do that ?? lol:p

[Skullfish]

i have a pulse 10m and seriousely dislike it cos it keeps over flying and dosn't fill me with much confidence. i hear there is something you can do with the bridle so can someone help me. the kite keeps over flying in a little gusty winds. wat do i do. who would accept money for it to be posted to them to sort it out. if it dosn't do what i want after that then i'm getting a phantom!!!

 

help me please

 

OK, useful bit on information on this thread. Pulses are very stable when set up crectly, but the lines stretch over time. Looks for the mixer test on foilzone of the flysurfer support page online. Try that out (5 mins tops) and it should fly perfectly, theres also mods detailed on flysurfer so you can adjust the kite from maximum efficiency/agression through to maximum stability. (kinda a reverse engineered WAC mod)

[andy kite king]

well i had a flight today to make sure it was actually ding it (i hadn't flown it for a while) and well wat can i say...... appaulling kept over flying the window anywhere in there. i may just sell it and get a phantom. it so frustrating. i almost got killed!!!!!! i don't want to fly things that but life in danger.

[daZZa-S]

well i had a flight today to make sure it was actually ding it (i hadn't flown it for a while) and well wat can i say...... appaulling kept over flying the window anywhere in there. i may just sell it and get a phantom. it so frustrating. i almost got killed!!!!!! i don't want to fly things that but life in danger.

 

Got to say this mate.. mine was "Exactly the same" when set to factory defaults. Putting the mod on it was a totally different kite and is near to the stability of my venom. To me I get the feeling that flysurfer didn't do enough R&D before they sent it out. How can they sell a kite that is so unstable until a mod is done... and why do some need the mod and others don't?? Work experience teens on the production line maybe or have they imported a load of people in from Taiwan again. They must of been about when they produced my kite

 

But absolutly fine now and got to say it is one of the best kites I have flown. But the mod I did wasn't just to make a good kite a little better. I flew the kite and was told that the speed system needs renewing. The kite flew perfectly but before changing I did the mixer test and saw 2 lines were seriously shorter than the others.

 

So being logical (and not knowing about the mod) I thought that I had stretch and the kite is going to fly so much better when at factory standards. WRONG BIG TIME.

 

The kite was so unstable compared to what it was before. Twitching all over the place and luffing. At one point I was ready to chuck it in the bin. After a few goes in verying conditions I found out about the mod. Started doing the mod and the instability vanished and so did the tip tucks. My kite was back to the norm.

 

what I want to know is why the hell do you have to do a mod when a kite is that unstable? Shouldn't "factory standard" be "most stable"?? I lost hope in the kite until I did the mod. My P2 is rock solid and it was more stable than the pulse until now.

 

Now the kite is fixed I know it's defently the kite for me.

 

I can understand a little mod to make something that is good - better... but this to me made a crap kite into the best kite in my quiver... god damn ridiculous... I spend out alot of money for my flysurfers (well, not exactly but if I bought it from normal off the shelf lines I would of)... I don't expect to do a mod to fix a problem that should of been fixed at the start.

 

Got to say this...the way I feel at the moment though its the best kite iv'e flown in it's tweaked form.... it has put me right off buying any of the new models of flysurfer.

[Tone]

right for starters i completely agree with what is being said about buying a kite that you should NOT have to play with to get it to fly right. it is unacceptable, and it is being looked into.

 

making a kite that is so high tech ( on jumps everyone about how simple they are) takes quite alot of time and effort, you get a design through maybe 10-15 prototype stages with many tweaks on the way and have a finished kite that is sent off with measurements to the manufactures (sp?) and thousands of units are made. out of those thousands unfortunatly a few slip through that are not quite right. its ****ty but it happens.

 

if you have a kite that you think is not flying right then all you have to do is contact Sven @ oceanside, myself, Phil72 or Rich D aka Air-s and we will do our best to get it sorted for you.

 

i for one HATE fiddling with string and understand that when you spend nigh on a grand for a kite then that kite should damn well fly properly.

 

the 13 i received flew to one side... damn i was ****** ab0out it, called up sven and litrally 5 mins later the kite flew better than i ever thought a kite would fly.

 

FS kites are finely tuned animals, i shortend the B bridle on the right hand side of my kite by 1cm on each attachment point and this was enough to make the kite feel like the other three i have. nice turning speed, amazing pop and hangtime and HUGE depower.

 

if someone has a problem and i can get to them, then i will, otherwise they can have my phone numbner, i will call them and talk them through how to fix it.

 

having a problem with 1% of kites is bad, its how you deal with it that counts and thats why there are people like me to help out.

 

Tony

[daZZa-S]

That is one thing I have to say about flysurfer... The support is fantastic the best support I have had with a kite. Word out to Tone and Sven. Sven was the one that told me about the mod and true enough it sorted the problem and Tone has given out so much useful help and info.

 

I'm glad i'm not the only one that think it's unacceptable.

[andy kite king]

so where can i find this mod. i'll give it one more chance if it is un acceptable at that stage i will sell it. anyone got any info on the mod i have to do. did someoen say it only takes 5 minutes. anyone know wat pl bombas r like?

[sw67]

I have been using flysurfers for 2 years and wanting one for much longer but i dont think i will have another for 2 reasons ( but i will keep the ones i have )

 

1. price - they are getting even more expensive and resale is falling

 

2. I read alot about flysurfers on various forums and the quality control is

falling in my eyes - Look at the stitching issues with the pulse and the

issues with the p3. I wonder what issues there will be with the speed 2

 

Flysurfers should last for years and my P2 is still going strong but i wonder how many new generation flysurfers will be in use 3-5 years from now

 

Stephen

[Tone]

bombas? hahaha they are ****e compared to the new PL kites and the Pulse.

 

i will get the link for you now.

[Tone]

http://www.foilzone.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=5411

 

there you go.

 

if you have any more problems please call me, PM me for number.

[Bertie]

whats the pulse like for lift? i heard it had a bit, but just how powerful is it?

[Tone]

it has plenty o'lift

[Skullfish]

whats the pulse like for lift? i heard it had a bit, but just how powerful is it?

 

Maybe not quite the same size for size with something like a frenzy, but with the depower you can fly in much higher winds, dump the power and speed up the wing for the send then grab it all back in when powering up, quite a wierd kite to jump with, especially my 7m. Go damn high though. Don't try letting the bar out mid jump though...

 

*crash*

[Bertie]

i nearly crashed into you flying your 7 at the ho the other weekend! short blonde dude flying a phantom?

 

i know it wont compare to my phantom, but how good for freestyle. it is £100 cheaper then the P3, which is very tempting!

[Tone]

the p3 is a much more full on kite.

 

jumps higher, turns in a nicer arc, i prefer to loop the p3 over the pulse, dont mean to say the pulse don't loop though

 

i was out on the 17 p3 yesterday on the water and it looped much better than i thought it would!

 

Tony

[marman]

i nearly crashed into you flying your 7 at the ho the other weekend! short blonde dude flying a phantom?

 

i know it wont compare to my phantom, but how good for freestyle. it is £100 cheaper then the P3, which is very tempting!

 

if your going to spend a silly amount of money on a kite what is an extra £100 to get the best in the range for freestyle

[just do it]

whats the pulse like for lift? i heard it had a bit, but just how powerful is it?

 

More lift than you'll ever need but don't be surprised when you go a little higher than expected like I did in the video clip below and make sure to steer your kite in the right dircetion.

 

http://www.kiteforum.tv/index.php?option=com_videos&task=show&id=499&Itemid=6

[andy kite king]

ok some questions about this mod. ahem.... 1) which pulleys do i do it on?

2) do i move the knots up or down for more stability.

3)why do i even need to do this mod?

 

i really want to get this kite to work cos i spent alot on it and by the sounds of it, it is bloody awsome!!!

[Little an Large]

imho anyone who spends nearly a grand on a kite and then has to do a mod on it and accepts it is a nutter, id send the bugger back and make sure u get a full refund and return postage paid for you, (or if you want ask for an exchange, but it doesnt put much faith in a company that suggests a mod for a faulty product rather than collecting it and exchanging or sorting)

 

after all you wouldnt get a letter from mr...ferrari for example saying oh by the way we have accidentally set the valve clearances etc wrong but heres how you sort it, it wont effect you warranty honest gov