keyrb101 Posted October 20, 2006 Report Posted October 20, 2006 i've been riding the psycho 3 on the water abit now but haven't dunked it yet, the instruction manual makes it sound straight forward for relaunching but when i've tried it on land it hasn't been so easy, Does anyone have any tips for relaunching from the drink, especially if the kite folds up a bit. Thanks Quote
aworm Posted October 20, 2006 Report Posted October 20, 2006 Have a look on Foilzone.com for top tips on FS kit Quote
T42 Posted October 21, 2006 Report Posted October 21, 2006 As a FS flyer and indeed for any kite surley it is prudent to practice all the various relaunch methods before taking it out on the water. I have not heard of people having relaunch problems with the P3. But I have seen on foilzone that they do tend to tug thier tips slightly when new but after they have bedded in ( fairly quickly ) this little snag is completely eliminated. As previously mentioned, ask on foilzone you will get loads of great advice. Quote
the_lone_wolf Posted October 21, 2006 Report Posted October 21, 2006 if it's face down pull both OS handles HARD!!! you need to backstall the kite off the water, once it's ~a wingspan off the water release one and let it spin round, then let go of the other and if needs be tug the centre lines a bit to get it flying again if it gets folded it's pot luck really, don't put too much pressure on the lines and it can sort itself out, but you may have to swim for it a couple of times, as with tangles on any kite Quote
keyrb101 Posted October 21, 2006 Author Report Posted October 21, 2006 went out today, i can't seem to inflate the kite fully so when it launches it flys all over the wind window with the tips in then suddenly fills up and shoots to the zenith, it's so F###ING dangerous i'm almost considering getting rid of it. Quote
the_lone_wolf Posted October 21, 2006 Report Posted October 21, 2006 just sand one tip then hold each vent up into the wind and it'll inflate in seconds, once there's air in it up til the last couple of feet at the upwind tip it'll launch without a problem, not dangerous at all... Quote
keyrb101 Posted October 21, 2006 Author Report Posted October 21, 2006 not what happens to mine, i'll sit for ages holding the vents at the wind and it just flys up then back into the window with massive tip collapse. any ideas? pull the bar in or be fully powered up??? thanks for the help so far. Quote
the_lone_wolf Posted October 21, 2006 Report Posted October 21, 2006 i haven't flown the P3 but if it's anything like older models pulling the bar in sightly just so the lines tension will make it take shape much quicker than leaving the bar right out, presumably you're side launching? Quote
AIR-S Posted October 21, 2006 Report Posted October 21, 2006 went out today, i can't seem to inflate the kite fully so when it launches it flys all over the wind window with the tips in then suddenly fills up and shoots to the zenith, it's so F###ING dangerous i'm almost considering getting rid of it. Hey there, how are you laying your kite out ?? straight down wind or weighing one tip down ? ? ... if your weighing the tip down try holding the air intakes up into the wind and this helps loads for inflating... if your laying it out straight down wind then just lift the leading edge into the wind a bit just pull the leading edge up into the wind so that the air can get into the intakes easier... Rich:cool: Quote
Tone Posted October 21, 2006 Report Posted October 21, 2006 kev gimmi a call on 07815 144496. will give as much help as i can. Quote
keyrb101 Posted October 21, 2006 Author Report Posted October 21, 2006 thanks for all the help guys, If i launch downwind with abit of pre-inflating in low winds its ok, as it justs flys up to the zenith and sits there for a bit then fills up. BUT, if i launch at the side of the window (venom style) with as much pre-inflation as the kite can handle then it goes wrong big time and today was very windy so went to 5th line which resulted in the mother of tangles which i'll spend all of tomorrow sorting. At the moment im half depowering the kite for bigger winds on the trimmer and i don't think i pulled the bar in so that might help to fill it quicker.... Quote
doggy Posted October 21, 2006 Report Posted October 21, 2006 this video shows how to side of the window lauch with sand on the tip http://www.flysurfer.com/Gallery/v/videos/Anleitungsvideos/Starten_mit_Sand.avi.html when inflating my P2s i sand a wingtip so the kite is flagged out then hold open each of the air intakes one at a time facing into the wind so the wind flows staight into them and fills the kite up very quick, expecially in strong winds. i always launch with the trimmer all the way in unless it is very weak winds. If you give the bar a few tugs while the kite is making its way to the zenith it does help it fully inflate quicker Quote
keyrb101 Posted October 21, 2006 Author Report Posted October 21, 2006 i'm going to try pulling in the bar a bit next time and i'll inflate it even more, i have that vid on dvd it came with my kite, my kite launching is nothing like that. i've flown it for probaly 4hours so far maybe it needs bedding in a bit more. anyone going to be around soton tomorrow who knows their flysurfers? Quote
Titan Posted October 22, 2006 Report Posted October 22, 2006 I never had problems with my p3 8&10m-launchin or re from water.I sand the wing tip folded to the first vent and put as much shingle or sand foreward of the kite as possible(leading edge)NEVER pull the trimmer even an inch.When you launch keep pressure on the bar...dont just stay there and hope for the best-maybe half way and feel the kite.If the tips fold i just shake the kite hard steering on the bar left-right. As in the water is easy-normally folds in half or is in a big ball shape but she opens up leading edge down...pull o-**** handles hard and as it goes backwards up steer with one(remember to keep the bar and handles the RIGHT way) Quote
Tone Posted October 22, 2006 Report Posted October 22, 2006 btw, the o'Sh!t handles are not for relaunching off water, there are little white marks on the leader lines that are marked so you know where to grab the lines. pull both lines at the same time and the kite will take off backwards. let one go and the kite will spin around and take off. hope that helps. Quote
d0dgey Posted October 22, 2006 Report Posted October 22, 2006 while on the subject of flysurfers amd sorry in advance for hijacking with my rookie when i release the chicken loop and let go it pull the safety right but as the kite is stalling towards earth it spins upside down and takes off again is theis meant to happen or is there something wrong Quote
keyrb101 Posted October 22, 2006 Author Report Posted October 22, 2006 @dodgy - check your line lengths. Quote
keyrb101 Posted October 22, 2006 Author Report Posted October 22, 2006 someone has just put up a new mixertest for curing this problem on foilzoe, anyone else had a go with it? Quote
scots_flyer Posted October 22, 2006 Report Posted October 22, 2006 Yeh, I'd say throw it in the bin and upgrade to Venom 2's. On the other hand you could hold off and see what PL brings out as his 07 kite, its got to be good whatever it is... good luck anyway went out today, i can't seem to inflate the kite fully so when it launches it flys all over the wind window with the tips in then suddenly fills up and shoots to the zenith, it's so F###ING dangerous i'm almost considering getting rid of it. Quote
just do it Posted October 22, 2006 Report Posted October 22, 2006 Go to this link and have a good read through it. It is just a question of setting the kite up the right way and to make sure that it isn't too depowered on launch and that it is properly pre-inflated. It describes all of this in the manual but most people either don't read it or don't understand it, so I hope that this link makes it a little more clear. http://www.oceanside.co.uk/posts.php?ID=1&bid=2&tid=295 Quote
Mr X Posted October 23, 2006 Report Posted October 23, 2006 Check out this thread on foilzone for how to sort out wingtip tucking. (I've had serious issues with my wingtips tucking at launch and am hoping this will sort it) http://www.foilzone.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=6739&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight= Quote
sw67 Posted October 23, 2006 Report Posted October 23, 2006 while on the subject of flysurfers amd sorry in advance for hijacking with my rookie when i release the chicken loop and let go it pull the safety right but as the kite is stalling towards earth it spins upside down and takes off again is theis meant to happen or is there something wrong That is my old rookie 2 and it did that from new - i never used the safety unless i was in trouble To land pull the rear lines and unhook when it touches down if you do pull the safety and it starts to spin dont fight it , run towards the kite and it will come down Stephen Quote
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