kiteingcolin Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 This came a shock to the system and I’m surprised that no one has mentioned it on here, the fact that Whitstable windsurfing is offering for sale on e bay; Naish kites, "OLD" v4, and x4 kites for sale any size complete with shift bar and warranty, any size up to 30 mtr down to 10 mtr on the v4 for a shocking £299 complete any size, this has helped to send the second hand market into free fall, who wants £350 for their old kite, think again , and I have been watching the price of second hand kit on e bay, it’s going for nothing, Is everybody thinking bow this year or minimum 5 line kite?, looks like it, off loading unfashionable gear might well be heart breaking this year if it falls under the description of 4 line and classic shaped, Quote
Skullfish Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 Free-fall? Try free-fell. Its not just kitesurf kit either. Quote
Antigrav Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 They'v had the cheap kites on their site 4 about 2 months now and i was as surprised as u 2 c them on there.I for one am plannin on taking advantage of the low 2nd hand prices,especially if people are going 5th line or bow.I just enjoy flying my kites,no matter what shape they are or even if they're out of date!!!I think there's no point having a brand spanking kite if i can have the same amount of fun with an old one.Of course its nice 2 have new kit but if like me ur on a budget then the cheap 2nd hand kites are great news!!! Quote
Vertigo1599968637 Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 People like me are reeping the rewards tho. Hoping to get into the water this year just picked up a 17m & 13m Strike 1 for next to nothing great condition. The chap selling them had just got a Sonic. Mind you boards are still holding good money not found one of thoese dirt cheep..... yet! Quote
kiteingcolin Posted March 8, 2006 Author Report Posted March 8, 2006 i have sold 4 boards in the last 12 weeks, all went for £145 each, one was 10 mth old, Quote
spooky Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 Yes it will have a big effect, very simular to what happened to windsurfing some timeback? Funny thing is, it is all contrabuting to crowded beaches and novices just "having a go" and the fall out? And to think on another forum us land kiters were getting all the blame? Yet some deaicated kitesurf shops are piling them high selling cheap?? NB Not accusing any one particular shop, just an observation Jon Quote
doc Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 Well, don't think that its a total freefall just yet. Foils are still selling incredibly well. Sold me sabre last week for £270 (paid 425 just over a year ago). Sold me airush flow kite for 210 inc pp. i paid £585 for it about 18months ago. So a total of 480 back with 1000 spent. 50% is standard for second hand goods of all types. And yes, i've put it toward a 9m Waroo. (Selling my Naish board also at the moment on ebay.) Quote
coupe-se Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 The company that distributes Neil Pryde gear has shed all but 2 of their sales team because sales are so poor and its the worst its been for years apparently. A friend of mine has worked there for years and loved his job, but has been made redundant because of this. It seems that all manufacturers of water based sports equipment are suffering. Quote
Stupid Dave Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 not these foils dude i cant shift mine! and i wouldnt say there were up for a bad price?(see my sig) Quote
simbil Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 i thought inverti-bows were falling out of favour in the US? i've seen posts of people trying bows and going back to LEIs. the market is well hyped at the moment, but maybe the market is just maturing to the point where kites can be made quite cheaply. Quote
Filthy Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 Good old whitstable...Got a 6m and a 25m..Ordered yesterday arrived today. Why buy second hand when you can get "Last years ish" for £300! Cracking deal..Cheers Mark! EDIT....But not 05 slingys.................. Quote
kev6800 Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 thanks to the bow kites there are some wicked bargains to be had on new and second hand kit .when i see people on the water with bow kites, 5th line set ups ,or traditional 4 line they all seem to have a smile on there face from the feel good factor . i think what im trying to say is dont believe the hype ! buy to your budget and skill level and enjoy :D Quote
the_lone_wolf Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 this is simply the manufacturers shooting themselves in the foot - how to do it: 1. produce a good kite in 2004 2. make masses more than can be sold leaving retailers with huge stock to clear when you... 3. produce a slightly better kite in 2005 4. wonder why people aren't buying kites new at hugely inflated (lol) prices and are instead buying kites super cheap from dealers desperate to clear stock or from a saturated 2nd hand market where it's a buyers dream 5. rinse and repeat for 2006 hence your shiny new 2006 kite will be worth nothing in 8 months time, it's not rocket, the smart thing to do would be to produce only enough kites to fill the number of orders, but afaik there's only one manufacturer doing that, and their 2nd hand market is one of if not the strongest of them all;) Quote
northern jim Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 Nail on the head there Mark. this is simply the manufacturers shooting themselves in the foot - how to do it: 1. produce a good kite in 2004 2. make masses more than can be sold leaving retailers with huge stock to clear when you... 3. produce a slightly better kite in 2005 4. wonder why people aren't buying kites new at hugely inflated (lol) prices and are instead buying kites super cheap from dealers desperate to clear stock or from a saturated 2nd hand market where it's a buyers dream 5. rinse and repeat for 2006 hence your shiny new 2006 kite will be worth nothing in 8 months time, it's not rocket, the smart thing to do would be to produce only enough kites to fill the number of orders, but afaik there's only one manufacturer doing that, and their 2nd hand market is one of if not the strongest of them all;) Quote
Marky G Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 the smart thing to do would be to produce only enough kites to fill the number of orders, but afaik there's only one manufacturer doing that, and their 2nd hand market is one of if not the strongest of them all;) might that be the mighty surfer thats flys? they truly are great kites if a lil truck like in old guise. can anyone tell me how to make a 12.5 titan tuen faster? M Quote
the_lone_wolf Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 might that be the mighty surfer thats flys? they truly are great kites if a lil truck like in old guise. can anyone tell me how to make a 12.5 titan tuen faster? hey there... don't forget you're flying a piece of history there my man, that kite's pretty old now and certainly isn't the most nimble;) - but to answer your question probably not, you could try messing with the bridle and try to turn it into something like the modern 3:1 jobs, but you'd be far better selling it and saving for a newer kite, cause each generation of FS is getting better by a good margin, making it worthwhile selling your year old kit to buy newer stuff:) Quote
Marky G Posted March 9, 2006 Report Posted March 9, 2006 it is up for sale and has been for the last month or so. havent had much luck tho. if i were to mess with it would some of the vio mods work or am i goin too far with it? M Quote
Howard Marks Posted March 9, 2006 Report Posted March 9, 2006 The second hand market kite prices being so low will hopefully bring into the sport some new tallent. The problem we have is that the 16-21 year olds are the ones who bust all the new moves and have most of the style but untill now could not afford to get into the sport. Quote
kiteingcolin Posted March 9, 2006 Author Report Posted March 9, 2006 my tip to selling is sell it silly cheap or your stuck with kit your partner/ wife will give you loads of grief for if you ask for new kit and if you have a shed full of "old" kit you have a lost argument, only the same thing when she wants a new party frock, isold my 18 mtr gaastra in 3 hours on e bay this week, £170, and now i have the 14 mtr on e bay, see below!! at that price i will very soon have no kites left, then when i complain i need to buy a full set of warroos, the ony things i will need to sell are my brand new 06 naish ravens, offers anyone??? Quote
just do it Posted March 10, 2006 Report Posted March 10, 2006 might that be the mighty surfer thats flys? they truly are great kites if a lil truck like in old guise. can anyone tell me how to make a 12.5 titan tuen faster? M Put it on 4 lines instaed of three and it will turn faster. Quote
alastairy2k Posted March 10, 2006 Report Posted March 10, 2006 what are bow kites? http://vidangesdudiable.blogspirit.com/images/medium_head-in-sand.jpg Quote
muppetdude1 Posted March 10, 2006 Report Posted March 10, 2006 classic alistairy totally classic Quote
enterusername Posted March 10, 2006 Report Posted March 10, 2006 what are bow kites?http://www.hora-kites.de/media/DIR_45956/Chess~kite.jpg this my friend is a bow kite!! Quote
the_lone_wolf Posted March 10, 2006 Report Posted March 10, 2006 no that's box kite this is a bow kite: http://members.aol.com/woinem2/bilder/iluilu.jpg The "u l i - u l i", a musical kite-bow from Sumatra Quote
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