Nato Posted January 8, 2008 Report Posted January 8, 2008 has anyone ever flown a JN kite from italy and if so what did you think? they look good and also sound quite good as im lookng at buying one from italy Quote
schultzie Posted January 8, 2008 Report Posted January 8, 2008 never heard of them put a link up, why don't u buy one locally? Quote
Jason Posted January 9, 2008 Report Posted January 9, 2008 I have flown them. There were a couple in the country about 3 years ago now but nobody took them on. I remember the Wild Thing wasn't too friendly in gusty winds. Chris was on JN last year and they seemed better but he is once again in the Slingshot Team. Is there a specific reason your interested in them????? Quote
Jason Posted January 9, 2008 Report Posted January 9, 2008 Here tis Shultzie- http://www.jn-kites.com/ Quote
Nato Posted January 9, 2008 Author Report Posted January 9, 2008 just was looking at them as im in austria at the moment and the factory is only an hour away and a lot of people seem to fly them here. so there not so much chop then? i was speaking with some austrians and they said the prima donna2 was great Quote
Jason Posted January 10, 2008 Report Posted January 10, 2008 Yes the Prima Donna 2 was the pick of the bunch. Good freestyle kite but still doesn't compare to a Torch Quote
Nato Posted January 10, 2008 Author Report Posted January 10, 2008 well what other kites should i be looking for at 12-14m mark for best all round kite? the more info i can get the better informed i will be when i go to buy. my other kites include a slingshot link 9m ozone frenzy 10m acess 6m and a samari2 3m Quote
sinbad Posted January 10, 2008 Report Posted January 10, 2008 They are also here in Australia too , martin bone i think is the agent. There about $1400 complete here in Australia. http://www.jn-kites.com.au/JN/Welcome.html Quote
tino Posted January 13, 2008 Report Posted January 13, 2008 That is correct, I am the Australian rep for JN Kites and we have a brand new web site (worth a look) we have kite and board special offers at the moment. As with most kite companies we are not all about massive profit s, our prices are negotionable, just email me. I'm keep to get the kites out into the market but at the same time what to keep the numbers down as they are the Rolls Royce of kites. Previously I was riding for Naish in the UK and the Prima Donna2 is one of the best freestyle/wave kites on the market. Don't just take my word for it tho. Quote
Steve Posted January 13, 2008 Report Posted January 13, 2008 KItepower was approached by JN in 2004, we got some samples in but they were just too exxy, and not outstanding in any area IMO. Can't comment on the latest versions, but I would recommend against getting anything that is not supported widely, if you have issues with it you will be without local support and can lose kite time getting it sorted. All kites can have issues. However we just placed our order for the Ozone 08 Instincts and will have stock here within the next 2 weeks. New pricing for the whole range, very competitive, PM me for a great deal. More details tomorrow in a separate thread. Quote
JKS Posted January 13, 2008 Report Posted January 13, 2008 Can't comment on the latest versions, but I would recommend against getting anything that is not supported widely, if you have issues with it you will be without local support and can lose kite time getting it sorted. Have to disagree there Steve .... I bought a widely supported brand from a shop in Oz and I cant even get a response to 'if or when' I might see any sort of replacements. I have contacted the 'said' shop many many times since the start of November and NO NEWS .... I understand your point ... buy locally , increase the odds of support .... but I assure you, you can get just as crap service buying locally..... at the end of the day there is risk buying anything from anywhere as far as loosing kite time goes (so it has now been 10 WEEKS ). I'm just lucky I'm a clever bugger and I fix things myself. Happy Days P.S. I am just venting Quote
Steve Posted January 13, 2008 Report Posted January 13, 2008 Fair enough, and it would seem that is really crap service by that shop. There can be issues with supply of parts for some older models and brands, but if you are not being kept informed thats just poor service, maybe change shop? Quote
tino Posted January 14, 2008 Report Posted January 14, 2008 Thats why JN are employing me, as their go too man if any customers need anything, bladders, lines, spares, warrentee..... anything. You could almost say I'm the Hudson version of Cabrinha but for JN! Quote
Steve Posted January 14, 2008 Report Posted January 14, 2008 Thats why JN are employing me, as their go too man if any customers need anything, bladders, lines, spares, warrentee..... anything. You could almost say I'm the Hudson version of Cabrinha but for JN! You would be doiing an amazing job if you were truly emulating Hudson, but sorry Tino and you and JN are not the formidable team of Neil Pryde (Industry leading manufacturer of many brands, maybe even JN?), the top 10 retailers in Australia, and of course Hudson. Hudson in turn is backed up by a team of staff in Hawaii and HK, and there are many protocols in place so that everyone tends to know what everyone else is doing, and can lend a hand if need be. The point I was making, was just that a person, perhaps not unlike yourself?, running a part time business, is not possibly going to be able to provide the same level of service as a team like the efficient and highly effective NeilPryde/Cabrinha network. Wishing you well in your business venture. Quote
.Joel Posted January 14, 2008 Report Posted January 14, 2008 Tino, All the best with JN Kites. In my experience "widely available" does not mean "widely supported." To the point that there are still products on the market from these "widely supported" brands that you can buy off the shelf and have it fail 2 sessions later. Secondly, this whole "huge to be successful" is further milarky. If you purchase a Flexifoil water kite it most likely comes from Karve, you purchase an Ozone kite it most likely comes from either Kamikaze Kites or Kitepower. The support is only as good as what the local distributor makes it. Nearly all businesses are started part-time on the side, unless you have an existing business that funds the new startup. Regards, .Joel Quote
Steve Posted January 14, 2008 Report Posted January 14, 2008 Tino, All the best with JN Kites. In my experience "widely available" does not * mean "widely supported." To the point that there are still products on the market from these "widely supported" brands that you can buy off the shelf and have it fail 2 sessions later. You need to insert ALWAYS, where I placed an asterisk in your quote. Anything from any company, in any industry, can fail Joel. How that issue is handled is what is important, and is the point I was making. Secondly, this whole "huge to be successful" is further milarky. If you purchase a Flexifoil water kite it most likely comes from Karve, you purchase an Ozone kite it most likely comes from either Kamikaze Kites or Kitepower. The support is only as good as what the local distributor makes it. Nearly all businesses are started part-time on the side, unless you have an existing business that funds the new startup. Regards, .Joel Success has never been defined by size or finances, noy by intelligent and sane people at least! Karve is a distributor, not a retailer. If people buy Ozone or Flexi kites they buy them from retailers, hand picked by the distributors of those brands. Kamikaze Kites is no longer a distributor of Ozone kites in Australia. Ozone has decided to change distribution in Australia, more details will be posted as needed. Kitepower Australia is a distributor, and news about other distributors will be released, in time. http://www.smallbiztrends.com/2005/07/business-failure-rates-highest-in.html As you can see, most small businesses fail. It is not true that most businesses start up from a part time operation, and in fact that is one of the reasons for the high failure rate os new business ventures! Trying to do two things at once, almost always means that someone is doing two things less efficiently, than if they were to focus on one thing and concentrate their energies and passions there. Quote
.Joel Posted January 14, 2008 Report Posted January 14, 2008 As you can see, most small businesses fail. Yup, and if you do a stats search you will find just how high that failure rate is. Added into that of the 20% - 25% that pass the first couple of years, over 70% of those fail in the next 5 years. These stats change depending on which book, magazine, brw or whatever else you read, but are generally in the same ball park. It is not true that most businesses start up from a part time operation, and in fact that is one of the reasons for the high failure rate os new business ventures! This is where you are wrong. The determining failure rate of startup businesses is not the time, it is the available startup capital. Where part time businesses grow, their owners are subsidised by their secondary income. When a company is born by the finance of an existing company the likelihood of success is increased by their available to capital to take hits over the first few years. Jim's Mowing ? More franchises subsidised by customers of the first focus. Start up a roofing service, market to your already existing contact list of home owners who you are mowing their lawns. Keep the company a float until it becomes profitable through funds of your first business. Fast food outlets do this all the time. I won't name the store, otherwise I name the regional rep. However there is a conglomerate of 5 fast food stores in Melbourne's outer eastern suburbs. Of these 5 only 2 are currently profitable, and keep the other 3 afloat. Has been like this for the past 4 years. Anyway, this is all off-topic. If you would like to continue this create a new topic. Regards, .Joel Quote
Luke Posted January 14, 2008 Report Posted January 14, 2008 Kamikaze Kites is no longer a distributor of Ozone kites in Australia. Ozone has decided to change distribution in Australia, more details will be posted as needed. More information needed! edit, I just made a phone call, Kamikaze are unaware that they are not distributing Ozone anymore, Ima get me more popcorn sit back and watch this unfold, yay gossip Quote
JKS Posted January 14, 2008 Report Posted January 14, 2008 So ..... is anyone flying JN kites ? Quote
Baggsy Posted January 14, 2008 Report Posted January 14, 2008 :read:what was the thread about again?? Quote
MilesMan Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 KItepower was approached by JN in 2004, we got some samples in but they were just too exxy, and not outstanding in any area IMO. Can't comment on the latest versions, but I would recommend against getting anything that is not supported widely, if you have issues with it you will be without local support and can lose kite time getting it sorted. All kites can have issues. However we just placed our order for the Ozone 08 Instincts and will have stock here within the next 2 weeks. New pricing for the whole range, very competitive, PM me for a great deal. More details tomorrow in a separate thread. 1st post. Aside from your rhetorical pimping throughout the online world, jn kites from their inception have been nothing short of the highest quality kites on the market. So in 2004 you took to distribute best over jn, that says a lot about your judgement. I have been riding jn for three seasons and have not had a single failure on my kites. It would be nice to see you stop spreading mistruths about products you simply dont sell or are uninformed on. Quote
Steve Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 1st post. Aside from your rhetorical pimping throughout the online world, jn kites from their inception have been nothing short of the highest quality kites on the market. So in 2004 you took to distribute best over jn, that says a lot about your judgement. I have been riding jn for three seasons and have not had a single failure on my kites. It would be nice to see you stop spreading mistruths about products you simply dont sell or are uninformed on. Would have preferred to reply privately, but thats not possible with you for some reason?? Aside from your realyy gross exagerration about my dominance of the online world, JN kites were at best average when I looked into importing and distributing them in Australia. It was not just me who thought that either, we had a couple of kites to test, many locals tried them, and none really took to them. The graphics at the time were outstanding though for sure. They are made in one of the same few factories in China, using the same materials as most other brands. I will not comment on their construction and materials now because I have not seen one, send me a demo, I will give it a fair review! My decision to go with Best, was a good one in hindsight now, to imply otherwise would be foolish to say the least. I have not spread any mistruths about JN, nor any other brands. I do tell it how it is, if I have direct experience with something. I've been flying, selling, servicing, teaching, helping and mcgyvering kites for nearly 17 years, give me a break Milesman! Good luck with your busines venture and new anonymous forum username (hope you don't have multiple names or sign ins, thats a no-no!) Quote
MilesMan Posted January 17, 2008 Report Posted January 17, 2008 Please don't flatter yourself in your own gross exaggeration of dominance, it is a distant mile (pun) from pimping. You have displayed complete unprofessionalism on your part by your remarks towards JN and Tino. I have no business venture and work happily here in SA privately. Make yourself an appearance here at Easter and I will be more then happy to introduce myself and give you a fly of a real JN kite, not the fairy tale stuff you talk about above. Quote
Jason Posted January 17, 2008 Report Posted January 17, 2008 OK, I think we have taken our eye off the ball ppl. Lets get back to the fun stuff!!! Quote
Exarch Posted January 17, 2008 Report Posted January 17, 2008 yeah take a deep breath ladies and let go of each other's hair...... (if we wait long enough all kat fights end up with two girls kissing) Quote
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