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Everyones got a new kite out..........but who needs Flixifiol or Odzone.:D

 

Here's my latest kite.....called the NUFAN 6m on it's very first flight. Designed using SurfPlan and once again many thanks to Dave Aberdeen for his brilliant program and help.

 

Very little wind yesterday just what I wanted............well chuffed

 

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/DiggerDan/P1010048Cropped6x4.jpg

 

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/DiggerDan/P1010046Cropped6x4.jpg

 

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/DiggerDan/P1010038cropCropped6x4.jpg

 

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/DiggerDan/P1010042Cropped6x4.jpg

 

 

 

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Funny you should mention a Samurai :rolleyes:

 

Probably has about 15m of ripstop @ £3.00 a metre and about £6 of other bits. Bridle lines approx £25. Probably about £80 in total...................and I nearly forgot the most expensive bit about 3 weeks work from plan design to finish. :eek:

 

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Just had a look at the programme!!!! Looks very good. Few questions for you, if that's ok?

 

-was the full programme very expensive?

-Did you get the data from somewhere (I wont tell anyone, honest!) or was it trial and error type stuff?

-did you have to become a seamstress to finish the job?

 

 

I'd quite like to have a go at this methinks!

 

Bit bored at the mo as not workin much and weather is rubbish!

 

Thanks in advance!

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@ gandhi you can download SurfPlan for free as long as you are not going to use it commercially. It comes with a huge selection of aerofoils some of which I don't think would ever fly.

 

There are some plans around. There is a group on Yahoo who build kites and people up load their plans to it.

 

I basically pick up on a shape, choose an aerofoil and enter the details in Surfplan, you can view the 3D plan on screen. When your happy with your design (no guarentee that it will fly) make sure you have plenty of paper in your printer and print away, Dave Aberdeen has put a limit on the number of times you can print.

You then get about 300 A4 sheets :eek: that you then join together in panels for each cell eg one rib, one top skin and one bottom skin.

I then stick these down onto hardboard sheets, cheapest material around.

You then have half a kite in wood:D

Then lay each template on your ripstop and cut around it using a seam allowance...........I use a soldering iron to cut theripstop....it cuts and seals the edge.

Then get the sewing machine out and practice joining three pieces of material together with opposite curves.

Sew in your tabs for the bridle....make up the bridle,,Surfplan gives you the sizes and away you go.

 

This kite is my sixth. The one in my avatar is a 3m that has been used alot lately.

 

Have a good think....you certainly start to understand why they cot the money they do.

 

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have had a bit of a fiddle with surfplan now....some of the stuff is a bit beyond my ken at the moment. The version I downloaded is limited in so far as it won't let you alter the graphical makeup of the kite and there are no foil plans :(!!!

 

Did you take any measurements off of the foil design you were trying to copy?

 

I'll have a hunt for that group on yahoo I guess.

sorry about al the questions, perhaps i should be asking DAve!!!

I'd feel a bit cheeky asking you to share your hardwork!!!!

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version 4.40,0,1

 

I worked out the rough area of the kite I wanted..you can enter this into size and shape on the tool bar. You then need to work out the aspect ratio this kite is about 3.3. The smaller the A/R the faster the kite will be have a look at some race kites, the bigger the number the more stable they are.

 

Have a look at some manufactures for data they often tell you flat span, flat area, aspect ratio, projected area and projected span. Since the canopy will have a curve to it the projected area is always smaller than the flatarea.

 

when you choose a profile get something simple there are a couple of "blade" profiles which work well

 

Fix the number of cells more cells better the kite but the more cutting out and sticking. Again have a look at some manufacturers.

 

It's best to have a plan of a kite loaded up then you can mess with it and see the effects.

 

Bridling is difficult to explain you need to try the program.

 

Not to confuse but there is a similar program called Foilmaker which has a pdf manual with it

 

www.foilmaker.co.uk

 

F/O Kite

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@ little john

 

The worst bit is the start and finish. On a kite with a curved leading edge you have to manage the curve of the ribs together with the curve of the upper and lower skins of adjacent cells.

 

I found that stitching adjacent skins together first and then stiching in the rib after makes it easier. Twice the stitching and I'm not sure if it weakens the fabric. When you get to the middle it's great. I recon about 2 hours per cell!!!

 

@ kiterboy

 

The different colours are joined by stitching. If you mark the coloured panels out on the templates they tend to match up reasonably well............with a small amount of adjusting. Most of them are done as straight lines...but ifact it's not difficult to have two matching curves, one concave and the other convex and seam these together.

Since you have to produce two of everything, having a template to draw round speeds things up and makes sure they are the same shape, The template is the exact panel size. I then have a 10mm wide washer that rolls around the template with the soldering iron bit in the centre....i get an outline of the panel with an exact 10mm seam allowance.

 

Have a search for Roy Menage he did a great article in PK magazine. I believe its on line somewhere. He also has plans for Firecrest kites done using Foilmaker.

 

here's a link to my 2m Lil' Boster

 

http://www.flexifoil.com/community/forums/showpost.php?p=581175&postcount=11

http://www.flexifoil.com/community/forums/showpost.php?p=581251&postcount=13

 

 

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For ripstop I use either Keith "Chalkie" White at Kiteworks http://www.kiteworks.co.uk/

 

Or Highwayman kites

 

It works out at about £3.50 a linear metre usually 150 cm wide. It comes in different weights

 

http://www.highwaymen.demon.co.uk/

 

How do you know it's going to work?..................haven't worked that out yet. I'm not sure hat work means does it work as well as the equivalent size Bullet..probably not. Does it work at pulling me along the beach....Oh Yes.

 

F/O Kite

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@ Kiterboy you probably need a plan to load up into Surfplan. Then when you go to print preview you'll see what I mean. The whole shape, every rib and every cell (top and bottom) is printed on A4 sheets. You have to stick them together to make up the template.

 

Not sure about the "pockets" either?

 

F/O Kite

 

I will send you a plan that you can load up into SurfPlan if I can

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Everyones got a new kite out..........but who needs Flixifiol or Odzone.:D

 

Here's my latest kite.....called the NUFAN 6m on it's very first flight. Designed using SurfPlan and once again many thanks to Dave Aberdeen for his brilliant program and help.

 

Very little wind yesterday just what I wanted............well chuffed

 

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/DiggerDan/P1010048Cropped6x4.jpg

 

 

F/O Kite

 

F/O Kite please please could I use the plans for one of these if you still have them or if you have something around the 2m/3m mark might be better i'll pm you my email address for the plans.

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It's a 2m^2

 

I have made a 3m^2...it's the one in my avatar.

 

Had plans to build a 4m^2.

 

In Foilmaker, enter the new area on the toolbar, then right click in the plan window and it should resize.

In SurfPlan click the "size and shape" to enter a new area.

 

F/O Kite

 

BTW you must use polyester thread to sew it, NOT cotton as this will rot.

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