buggy12 Posted January 10, 2004 Report Posted January 10, 2004 hi im looking to buy a new kite to buggy with. i want to but a bullet but dont know if i should get a 2.5 or a 3.5. can anyone out there please help. David . email me asap. Quote
Muttley Posted January 11, 2004 Report Posted January 11, 2004 the 2.5m will get you moving properly in approx. 20-30mph winds, the 3.5m in approx. 15-25mph winds so the larger one would probably be the better option it is also better to fly overpowered in the buggy plus the smaller one may be a bit twitchy for learning with Quote
Mal1599968600 Posted January 11, 2004 Report Posted January 11, 2004 Yep agree completely. You will get far more days of use with the3.5, plus the power is much smoother and the turn speed is slower. Quote
brenski Posted January 11, 2004 Report Posted January 11, 2004 agree with the above mid range kite will get you going in the buggy in most wind speeds............3.5m bullet great kite! Quote
Sky-Blu Posted January 11, 2004 Report Posted January 11, 2004 depends on what you've already got (if anything) as you dont want too much of an overlap, best to maximise your wind range. if you've got things smaller than the 3.5 then go for that but if you've got things larger than the 2.5 i'd go for that, but then it does depend on what else is in your quiver. but overall the 3.5 is the better of the two, as the others have said Quote
MadAndy71 Posted January 12, 2004 Report Posted January 12, 2004 Please think about the lines that are supplied with these. They are only 300lb mains. If you will be throwing a heavish buggy around and you are not light, it wont take much to snap the lines. When purchasing, if new, it may we worth asking for a line upgrade to the 500lb set. Quote
rjw Posted January 12, 2004 Report Posted January 12, 2004 wise words MadAndy. in the light of current debates on whether or not 300lb standard line are suitable for high wind kites? what was that debate again?!? rjw Quote
simon_london Posted January 12, 2004 Report Posted January 12, 2004 The Blade III 3.0 is much better than either bullet. Quote
TheFish Posted January 12, 2004 Report Posted January 12, 2004 Originally posted by simon_london The Blade III 3.0 is much better than either bullet. For a beginner in a buggy Quote
Muttley Posted January 12, 2004 Report Posted January 12, 2004 i do not agree that the blade is better than the bullet - they are very different kites the bullet produces less lift & so is the better kite for learning to buggy with the bIII would be a better choice for boarding & probably static flying neither kite will be sufficient in the summer so start saving for a 7m now Quote
simon_london Posted January 12, 2004 Report Posted January 12, 2004 The blade is more stable, more predicatable, more fun and just as easy to fly. All kites produce lift if you fly them in windy enough conditions. i would say that the 3.0 blade is safer than the bullet., because its power is more progressive and controllable. its a lovely kite. The 4.9 Blade can be more of a handful, but again if its not to windy it is fine. i have heard that nobody who works for flexifoil uses bullets, but blades. However i expect lots of bullet owners will disagree. Iys your money ! i learned to buggy with a blade 4.9. simon . Quote
Muttley Posted January 12, 2004 Report Posted January 12, 2004 [cough] most of the flexifoil sponsored buggiers use bullets! i'm not a huge fan of them to be honest but the original question was which of the 2 size bullets would be better [edit] read the comments of 2 team flexi riders HERE Quote
simon_london Posted January 12, 2004 Report Posted January 12, 2004 Ah ha. Mutley why are you not a huge fan of bullets ? is it because they are in fact HORRIBLE ? simon Quote
Muttley Posted January 12, 2004 Report Posted January 12, 2004 erm... no... because i prefer my race kites for the sheer grunt & upwind performance they produce (they are 3 times the price tho) Quote
Guest Flexi Moderator #1 Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 I generally use Bullets when buggying... Does that count? Quote
8015 Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 Most of the people working for Flexi are not buggy beginners, the bullet is a good stable beginners kite. The blade is better for freestyling - the freestylers prefer blades. The racers use blades because they are as close to race kites as Flexi make, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see flexi start a range of race kites in the future, although some of the lads are getting fantastic results on blades. Bullets are good learning kites, and good as high wind backups, but otherwise peopel will grow out of them. Maybe the solution is to form clubs and get kites like Bullets/Busters/LDs that beginners can learn with so that they can outgrow them before forking out for their own kites. Another way is simply to pass them round the club or group of matessecond hand as new people come along and need a starter kite. Simply dissing the kite because it doesn't have the grunt a more experienced buggy pilot looks for is just arrogant and unhelpful. If the sport is to expand in a safe way kites like these are essential for the lower ranks. Mind you, I find the bullets a bit unruly in high winds and would prefer an LD JIM Quote
Muttley Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 have you read the thread from the beginning i was not dissing the kites because they dont have the grunt of my raptors, i was sticking up for them & recommending the 3.5m as a good all round beginners buggy kite (in preference to the 3m bIII ) if they're good enough for the flexi moderator, they're good enough for me Quote
acehigh Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 Have to agree with Muttley! Own both kites and much prefer the bullet's when in the buggy. Have been out in some strong winds with the Bullet's and they produce very little up lift. As for stability I dont see how the blade 3 is more stable than the Bullet, the bullet is Rock stable. I dont know about flexi producing a race kite in the future I dont see whats wrong with the Bullet give me a 7m..... Quote
bosen Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 Originally posted by Muttley i was not dissing the kites because they dont have the grunt of my raptors, i was sticking up for them & recommending the 3.5m as a good all round beginners buggy kite (in preference to the 3m bIII ) if they're good enough for the flexi moderator, they're good enough for me You just have to look at Muttleys sig to see he is a serious racer type!! for him to recommend the bullet must say something?? I love my bullets they do exactly what it says on the tin!! yes its true you may out grow them as you progress but by no means a bad choice as a kite! Yes you may want to move up to the Raptor/Razor etc., but you can always sell them, but would never sell mine sometimes its just nice to have a kite that's just well you know fun? easy? Quote
8015 Posted January 14, 2004 Report Posted January 14, 2004 Muttley, it wasn't your comments I was replying to! Reading between the lines I get the impression you think the bullet is good for what it's for - it's not your choice as a racer, and I wouldn't buy another bullet style kite as I am getting into racing, but other people seem to have missed the point of the bullet. Most of us are on the same wavelength. JIM Quote
Mubster Posted January 14, 2004 Report Posted January 14, 2004 Going back to the original question by buggy12… It’s gotta be the 3.5… My first kite for bugging was a 2.4 Radsail witch really didn’t work, as I weight in at just under 15 stones, when I bought myself a 3.5 bullet my bugging came together very quickly, and I still prefer using the bullet to other kites. But hey… that’s just ma 2 cents worth… Hope you make the right choice dude Martie ___________________________ Radsail 2.4m Bullet 3.5m Flexi Buggy III BIG YELLOW FRENZY 9.5m.. Flexi deck (on loan… cheers Mr Powers) And an orange and blue shiny thing!!! www.mubster.co.uk http://www.aopn16.dsl.pipex.com/emailsig/emailsig.gif ____________________________ "Computer games don't affect kids. I mean if Pac man affected us as kids, we’d all be running around in a darkened room, munching pills and listening to repetitive music." ____________________________ Sex is like a game of bridge... If you don’t have a good partner, you need a strong hand” ___________________________ Quote
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