king_of_the_sky Posted January 8, 2004 Report Posted January 8, 2004 Hi im thinking about makinf my self a suspension rear axel for my Libre Special, its for my DT AS project i was looking at doing independant suspension, (not like the square metre things) ive seen to designs so far and there from the PL race buggy which is very basic but the ideas sound and the other is from the B1 buggy project which is belive is better and not to complicated. Im doing some drawings on my CAD program at the moment for both designs to ill post some pics of my ideas soon. But i need any other ways of setting up suspension i need about 5 - 10 diffrent setups if possable. Thanks for your Help KOTS PS my friend is making an adjustable buggy rack (like the one coastguard do) but it will be adjustable to take just about any buggy. Quote
Marcus Edwards Posted January 8, 2004 Report Posted January 8, 2004 Sujest you look a bit harder at the German sceen they have all sorts of set ups. Libre do there own as well. If you need 5-10 why have you left out our Powerspring, V-flex1 and V-flex2? but included the PL!!! We made ours because we think the PL doesn't work right as it allows body roll. Have you seen the rubber block idea (like trailers use) or the Carbon fibre axle? Be interested to see what you come up with, fresh thinking always welcome. Quote
king_of_the_sky Posted January 8, 2004 Author Report Posted January 8, 2004 Sorry dark water i didnt mean to put your things down but i was just looking more specificly at independant suspension, the v-flex2 suspension looks incredible but for what i need its possable a little complicated, ill post a pic of one of my ideas in the next hour. Thanks Quote
8015 Posted January 8, 2004 Report Posted January 8, 2004 The V-flex suspension may be beyond your project, but for goodness sake brainstorm it and then reject it wit h good reasons for why it's beyond your project. A large number of marks come from evaluating what you could or couldn't have done! Also as Darkwater said, look at trailer and bike and car suspension for some technical input. The principle is to keep the wheels in contact with the ground to maintain the side forces, rather than to make it more comfy! JIM Quote
Boffy Posted January 8, 2004 Report Posted January 8, 2004 Hows the back Jim. Side forces being the order of the day! Quote
8015 Posted January 8, 2004 Report Posted January 8, 2004 Better thanks to my Osteopath. Have some way to go yet but I'm really optimistic this time! Cheers for the concern frenzy boy! JIM Quote
ray mitchell Posted January 8, 2004 Report Posted January 8, 2004 the power spring from square metre looks the dogs dangly bits; to fit the libre special it al cost ya 170 squid just for the back axle have to start saving. :cool: Quote
king_of_the_sky Posted January 8, 2004 Author Report Posted January 8, 2004 As good as the square metre back axel looks i dont think the examinor will give me very high marks for buying something, and the whole reason im doing this is for the DT course work. Quote
king_of_the_sky Posted January 8, 2004 Author Report Posted January 8, 2004 ok ive been too busy doing my designs so i wont be able to post them tonite ill do it tomorrow. Quote
king_of_the_sky Posted January 9, 2004 Author Report Posted January 9, 2004 I would love to make that but its a little out of my price range i tnk ill still put it in tho. Quote
steveP Posted January 9, 2004 Report Posted January 9, 2004 The quality of these pics are not of the best quality as I had to reduce them to post them. If you would like the originals let me know and I'll e-mail them to you. Quote
stonemonkey Posted January 9, 2004 Report Posted January 9, 2004 you could have a bash at this type of set up !!! http://www.buggywielen.nl/images/products/buggy%20ad%20300.jpg I will try and find the proper site for ya , It was roger melly who post the site this buggy was on :-) SM Quote
king_of_the_sky Posted January 9, 2004 Author Report Posted January 9, 2004 I think that that is a back axel from the B1 buggy project Quote
stonemonkey Posted January 9, 2004 Report Posted January 9, 2004 found it http://www.home.zonnet.nl/buggy-bag/images/achter1.jpg or here http://www.flexifoil.com/community/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25931 Quote
king_of_the_sky Posted January 9, 2004 Author Report Posted January 9, 2004 Ok heres some of my ideas the one below is basicly a copy of the B1 thinghy but no where near as good. http://www.ascm39.dsl.pipex.com/Full1.jpg http://www.ascm39.dsl.pipex.com/PL%20Idea.jpg http://www.ascm39.dsl.pipex.com/Swingarm.jpg More to come soon. Quote
Marcus Edwards Posted January 9, 2004 Report Posted January 9, 2004 Don't forget that all those sharp corners will need padding if you intend going racing with it! Perhaps go for a simple design but make it scrutineer friendly Quote
king_of_the_sky Posted January 9, 2004 Author Report Posted January 9, 2004 i didnt bother chamfering or rounding any of the sharp bits but you get the genral idea of the design! Quote
king_of_the_sky Posted January 12, 2004 Author Report Posted January 12, 2004 Here are some more designs and a CAd version of Darkwaters Suspension http://www.ascm39.dsl.pipex.com/darkwatersus.jpg The shock absorber is in the box section here. http://www.ascm39.dsl.pipex.com/insidesus.jpg This is very Basic suspension provided by a rubber insert http://www.ascm39.dsl.pipex.com/rubbersus.jpg This is just a little thing that would change the camber with more pressurehttp://www.ascm39.dsl.pipex.com/varicamber.jpg All of these are animated in little mivies if youd like to see them just send me a PM KOTS Quote
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