Proteam 8' v Super 10'

[jedi]

Hi y'all,

 

I know i've been going on and on about these darned kites but I just gotta find out the answers to all my questions before i go ahead and upset my bank manager!

 

I want a Flexi but need to know the differences between a Proteam 8' and Super 10'. Now I realise the 10' is 2 foot longer, therefore will cause more pull on the old arms, but, what is the difference in performance? i.e. speed through the air, speed of turns, enjoyment of flying, ease of use.

 

From what I gather the 10' is sluggish compared to an 8' and this is sluggish compared to a 6'. But the bigger they are, the more pwerful they are. But are they as fast?

 

Cheers to anyone who has helped/replied to my questions over the past week, you've all been really helpful.

[Mark Dewick]

Buy a 4m blade and be done with it. You will be bored with anything less.... I promise it will be worth the extra money.

 

Mark

[HD462]

Or get a 2m Firebee just for starting out. Much more power than the Super 10, and still flies fast if that's what you want. You can fly it just like a 2 liner, then start using the brakes when you feel ready.

 

You'll find something like that much more versatile than the Stacker range.....cheaper too.

[nojjypoos]

the stackers (6,8 & 10) fly about the same speed, its just in turning that they seem to differ. If they flew at different speeds then you would be strugggling to fly them when they are stacked.

 

if it were me, i'd buy a 10 if you feel that you need to get one of them otherwise you'd feel as though you have wasted your money after you master it and want more power. Kiting is like hard drugs, you have a little bit and it takes more to get you off the next time.

 

So in my humble opinion get a super 10, ive had mine for ages and its still good fun, even after owning a blade 7.2 the 10 is fun.

 

John

[jedi]

I think with a blade attached to my arms (probably with lots and lots of gaffer tape) i'd probably be Ireland quicker than than i'd prefer. Although being in Ireland aint such a bad thing - Guiness!

 

I have to think of my budget and quite frankly the Blade scares me silly -i've seen the pics on the gallery!

[jedi]

I've checked around and the cheapest Super 10' i've found is £130 from Kempston Kites (website - http://www.kempstonkites.co.uk )

 

In the gallery there is a dude being lifted off the ground about 6' by a two line kite with padded straps, do you think this is a flexi dual line or a converted blade-type?

[mee]

jedi: the other kite in your price range would be a Symphony 3.3. You can fly it on two lines like the Super 10 or later fly it on four, although its much more fun on two lines. Packs away to a very small package, no spar to break, easy to launch, unlike a super 10 and very, very strong. Pull is quotes as about twice that of a super ten but it depends on the wind. It does not have any over head lift so feels very safe to fly. As for jumping, well that is foolish on any kite under 3m.I went from a pro team 8 to a Symphony 3.3. The Symphony also looks like a proper kite. What I do not miss about the pro team 8 was how difficult these kites with there leading edge spar are to launch. If you are looking to buy more in the future and stack these kites, then a soft foil is not for you.

[matty_cross]

For £130 get a 4m fireebee or if you want a faster kite get a 2m or 3m bee, they rock... and are cheap as chips...

 

I got board after 2 weeks of my Super 10 only use it now when the wind goes over 35 mph.

[Mal1599968600]

jedi

I honestly think a small four line kite would be more useful in the long run and they cost about the same as the large stacker. They real are not hard to learn to fly neary everybody can pick up all the basics in a couple of hours.

 

Stackers are great if your mates have them as well because you can build stacks. If you realy want one you can pick them up second hand very easily at great prices. You can often get a couple of them for the price of one.

 

Dont worry about the apparent power of four liners especialy the small ones as long as you are sensible about wind speeds it is not a problem. I have seen plenty of ten year olds get the hang of flying them very quickley .

 

Also it can be tricky to master launching them on your own some people just never get the hang of it. For this reason alone I would think about a different four or even two line foil as a first or only kite.

[Skydude]

Jedi,

I've said it before and I'll say it again, pop up to Royston one evening and have a chat and a play. Everyone is very helpful and friendly and have a great selection of toys between us. I know you are champing at the bit to get a kite and dont want to feel you have wasted your money on something you'll get tired with very quickly so come up and see us. We're up on the heath most evenings but check this thread for any last minute details.

 

http://www.flexifoil.com/community/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16602

 

I'm sure there are details of how to get there on the thread but if not PM me,

Hope to see you soon...

[Mouthwash]

I have three 8's and a Little Devil 2.1 (also 5m Peel but that's so new to me Ihaven't flown it yet).

 

What I can say is that the 8's are top fun either one on it's own or two or all three. Power increases as you build the stack. They are great fun and look good too. However I recently got the LD2.1 and I must say that £'s per unit of fun the LD wins hands down.

 

Three eights produce a lot less power, at £70 each 2nd hand that's £210 and I paid £239 for all three. The LD was £160.

 

The LD is easier to launch, more controllable and if you do hit the deck, much easier to re-launch. The LD is top quality and not too scary for a 'proper' traction kite.

 

So, basically, I recommend starting out with a 2-3m 4-line. If cash is an issue I suggest you shop aound but others on this thread have recommended Firebees and Symphony's which are good value.

 

I don't regret the Stackers and they won't leave my kite bag but if you are short on wonga get a small foil. Easier to launch/fly and more powerful. Of course (like me) even the small foil will be too small for you eventually - it's a 'drug' thing!!! Sooo much fun:D

 

Chris:cool:

[lazydog]

Originally posted by jedi

From what I gather the 10' is sluggish compared to an 8' and this is sluggish compared to a 6'. But the bigger they are, the more pwerful they are.

 

Whichever kite you get you'll soon get used to its turn rate and speed so I wouldn't worry too much about this.

 

If you want power go for the 10. But in the long run you might be better off with a foil as others have suggested.

[Jofski]

jedi: very similiar situation to you recently. Got given a stacker 6 - then it was pinched within weeks (along with my sound system!).

 

as I was hooked instantly, I went and bought a Super 10 two weeks ago. Since then, it was only this last weekend that we have had any decent wind (S Wales). In the meantime, a couple of really nice kiters whom I met on the beach gave me a go on:-

 

Slingshot (dont know the name - v small) - it was awesome - pulled my 13stone in a very light breeze. I have heard bad things about this kite, but I thought it was wicked.

 

Ozone - WOW - very stable and a very nice constant power.

 

Razor - SHEESH -I wish I could afford one. Took me 150 meters within seconds. Probably something for down the line...

 

Blade II 4.9 - I bit of a letdown after all the hype from my research. Only because it was more difficult to turn than I imagined. Having said that, I am a (fast learning) beginner. And I am saving up for...A Blade 4.9 !!!

 

My advice - pick up a cheap super 10 or Proteam 8 second hand- both great fun - but be prepared to be bored quickly as soon as someone gives you a go of their traction kite whilst out on a lovely summer's day !