broraboyan Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 I have used a leash from the start of my kite surfing hobbie and not once have I had it come back and hit me, I have never lost my board once, I've had a few epic situations on a loch where I know for a fact I would have lost my board if I didn't have a leash(trying to concentrate on a relaunch) . I use an oceanus recoil type. what are the pros on having one.... You don't ever loose your board, no body dragging(I'm a lazy bastard...... I like) Cons, after using it for 3 years is attaching it when your self launching, not a problem if you have a kite buddy, you get alot of slagging of for having one but they haven't used the new type since 2003. So where does this end, we'll it doesn't really as when my oceanus gives up the ghost, I'll be buying a brand new one and not a new board.... SIMPLES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 Well, someone is going to post that picture of a can of worms. Ive used a leash for 3 yrs and the only time Ive been hit was when I didn't have the leash. A wave hit me. On shore wind and the board caught the wave and clouted me. Everybody bleats on about using a leash but no ones actually seen anyone hit. At Hunny, a board will travel with the incoming or outgoing tide even against the wind at speeds up to 5 mph. If you sail offshore, in deep water, on your own, by yourself then I most certainly would. And for a noob learning. My goodness, does it save the struggle of worrying about your board. Maybe, this should have been posted in KITESURFING for maximum effect. Expect the word TROLL to be also deployed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyrus Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Have been pondering this for a while, was out the other day with The Geoff, now that i am up and running, managed to get into deep water, dropped the kite and had to body drag to shore,the board was away. Hand signals to The Geoff and we were re united. Bottom line is one just ordered from e bay. Happy days. JUST DONT TELL HIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broraboyan Posted July 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 We won't , it's when you are in deep water and you are struggling to relaunch it becomes a problem you loose site of the board and that's that. I have been hit by the board but it was the surf board without the leash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedatwgs Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 agreed i wear a leash as esturary takes board away. I have been clipped a few times when board landed behind me, but leash or no leash would have made no differece, it was a wave that did it. The least was hardly extended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupey Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Do you guys wear a helmet when you leash? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broraboyan Posted July 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Yeh but I don't wear it because I have leash it's because I kitesurf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Crazily enough I do when its very sunny. Figure that one. This is what they say coupey. Wear a helmet if you wear a leash but mainly I do not. I spose I will when I get a good clonk. In hindsight I will say I will be from then on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupey Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Yeah, I wear a helmet when I leash, but I like to go bareback when I can. Then I take off the leash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garc Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 You use one until something really bad happens. It'll only happen once but you'll ditch it immediately. And then regret getting rid of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 I'm off to Cuba again in 3 weeks. There'll be no one to rescue me, land or launch me or recover my board. Imagine a couple of weeks away and you lose your board first day. Tragedy !!!!! I will say tho. Normal cruising about on flat water doesnt seem to pose much of a danger BUT I can see how cocking up a high jump could cause problems. Not so much a clout but an extra bit of something to go round, thro or tangle with if you bail or land badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 You use one until something really bad happens. It'll only happen once but you'll ditch it immediately. And then regret getting rid of it. Sorry Garc, explain mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garc Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Sorry Garc, explain mate. No idea Mick. Full of Carling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 No idea Mick. Full of Carling! Respect bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyrus Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 The Geoff says that i have re launched of the water more in one afternoon than he has in the past 6 years, paints a picture for you, so yeah in deep water, it will be one less thing to think about, as far as a helmet, i wear one all the time, bald head and sun makes for an interesting pattern, Darth Moll im told Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 On a sort of similar subject. I've just changed my footpads and its actually quite rare that my feet come out of the straps now even after a bad wipeout. I notice the pads compress and then expand thus keeping my feet in quite tight pressure against the straps. Thats in bare feet, It was even more noticeable when I was wearing boots earlier in the year. It might be worth checking the pads or at least discussing the merits of better pads and straps on another thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Geoff Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 (edited) Hello Yeah, I'm no leash fan. I've never used one and I'm still using the same board (straps, not bindings) that I've used from day one about a decade ago. I've had to body drag in a few times and wait for the board to get washed in, but that was usually when the wind was borderline at the low end and I was having trouble dragging upwind. In your normal shore break you don't even need to get upwind, just stay more upwind than the board is. Zephyrus' situation is interesting - bit of a newbie, but getting there quickly. (Like he said, he relaunched a 14.5m Ion III about 10 times in one session a few weeks back, he kept crashing it because the wind was marginal anyway, frankly I'm impressed he managed it so regularly, especially for a big, heavy, wet kite in low wind - low enough that the only way to relaunch was directly downwind, none of your sliding to the edge stuff.) A leash will certainly make things easier for him, the only question I have is with the safety aspect. He's far less likely to be seriously powered up and/or messing about in big waves, so the chances of getting big forces involved are smaller, but at the same time he's also more likely to lose control of the kite and have it start looping when he's not ready for it. Six of one, half a dozen of the other. Either way, he's a helmet type and I'm generally there to either fetch his board for him or drag his broken, bleeding body from the water and feed it to his (rather lovely) dogs. He's a grownup, he's done his risk assessment, and he's bigger than me. Edited July 12, 2014 by The Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Geoff Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Have been pondering this for a while, was out the other day with The Geoff, now that i am up and running, managed to get into deep water, dropped the kite and had to body drag to shore,the board was away. Hand signals to The Geoff and we were re united. Bottom line is one just ordered from e bay. Happy days. JUST DONT TELL HIM You know you're a proper kitesurfer when you surf over to somebody with their board the first time - I kind of enjoy doing it, it's like having a big warm bath in karma - all part of the looking-after-each-other ethos that's so important in a sport like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 On the kitesurf section theres a vid posted from Norfolkshire. Now these are proper kitesurfers in my opinion and if its good enough for them...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulie_amoose Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Those guys are riding in overhead plus surf so leash use is an understandable evil but I bet my left testicle that none of them use a leash on a twin tip in normal freeride Mick conditions... In 95% of the conditions people ride in there is no valid reason to use a leash, it's just additional risk for no extra gain.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broraboyan Posted July 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 You need to try the new recoil leashes moose, get some one to give you a free demo, I'd love to read that review Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jugglerjon Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Kiteboard lease accident, right arm injury on Vimeo some evidence for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broraboyan Posted July 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Interesting as I have my leash set up when I'm on my board at 2 o'clock yours is at the 10 o'clock position . Plus what are the chances of you doing that same thing again, I'll take my chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jugglerjon Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Not me! just some evidence I found... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jugglerjon Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 If it were me, the chances of me repeating that accident would be pretty close to zero as I usually try to learn from mistakes /nearmisses and change whatever I did wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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