grant965 Posted July 14, 2008 Report Posted July 14, 2008 hi, ive got a buggy and thought about getting a harness, but a few questions first, what benefits and drawbacks are there and how do you secure yourself to the buggy to do jumps? thanks, Grant Quote
windjammer1599968715 Posted July 14, 2008 Report Posted July 14, 2008 if you want to go buggy jumping then get a climbing harness, if you want to race and cruze around then maybe the libre seat harness Quote
CeeJay Posted July 14, 2008 Report Posted July 14, 2008 how do you secure yourself to the buggy to do jumps? thanks, Grant with a seat belt similar to the belt-in fairground rides Quote
pete9586 Posted July 14, 2008 Report Posted July 14, 2008 benefits of a harness are that you can buggy for hours without your arms getting tired. but if you have an OBE, then you have to unhook quickly and thats not always easy if you're getting dragged down the beach/field. once you get used to it, you'll wonder why you didn't use it earlier. you can strap into the buggy with a belt across your tighs from one side rail to the other. Quote
Badger Posted July 14, 2008 Report Posted July 14, 2008 hi, ive got a buggy and thought about getting a harness, but a few questions first, what benefits and drawbacks are there and how do you secure yourself to the buggy to do jumps? thanks, GrantCan you do 180's in both directions, up on two wheels both sides without even thinking about what you are doing etc etc? It is good preparation to handle the enormous number of ways that you may find yourself landing when you start to learn to jump. I'm a bit sketchy on some of those still so I'm leaving jumping for a bit. The harness is more to do with holding down power without using your arms, and with a lower centre of gravity. Remember that there is no option to let go if it all goes wrong and you start getting lofted or dragged by your kite. Finally, I see that you have a Radsail buggy, so you need to be very confident of light landings, which does not fit well with learning to jump in the first place. Steve. Quote
Guest appo Posted July 14, 2008 Report Posted July 14, 2008 how long have you been flying?? what landbased moves can you already do?? before even thinking of wearing a harness you need a good lot of experience. things like this should not be taken lightly. its becoming more and more alarming how many newcomers to the sport are just strapping themselves in and trying to jump. yes it looks great and yes its quite a buzz, but its also VERY dangerous and things CAN and WILL go wrong!!! even when you have experience and do this on a regular basis, things DO go wrong and people get hurt, and not just the rider!! i also see that you use a radsail buggy, dont even try and jump it as it will probably end up collapsing and bending around you on impact. TAKE CARE!!!! Quote
speedymadr6 Posted July 15, 2008 Report Posted July 15, 2008 If you do get a harness at first I would only hook in if you are flying with others just in case something happens. However if you need to bail let go of the handles and grab the brake lines, will work the same as a kite killer. Quote
Gmandaflyer Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 Once you get used to flying the kite on a harness you then need to get strapped onto the buggy. At first it felt really wrong but now i can't fly without being hooked in. I use a seprate three point belt attachment on a quick release. When I crash, its ditch the buggy first then sort the kite out. Its tricky at first but after a few crashies you get used to it. If you really want to jump get a flexi bug. Rad Sail is made out of micky mouse metal and will fold like a pipe cleaner if you land heavy, and you will land heavy. More so if you fly inland, the gusty chunky winds can lift you and then leave your kite depowered and falling 10 -15ft leads to some hefty landings. A good way to learn basic jumping skills is do do lots of static jumps concentrating on keeping the kite powered up for floaty solf landings. Lift is easy but its the hang time after the initial lift thats hard to maintain. Learn where the kite needs to be in the window and what direction it needs to be pointing at the different times of the jump sequence and then try it out in the buggy. Its about practice and confidence both in your skill and your equipment. Quote
Guest appo Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 Once you get used to flying the kite on a harness you then need to get strapped onto the buggy. STRONGLY DISAGREE. all ground work and moves, backwards, 180's, 360's, powerslides, 2 wheels, etc...imho, All need mastering with you eyes closed before going onto getting strapped in to a buggy, and that should only be for the intention of Jumping the buggy. There is absolutley no reason anyone should need to be strapped in for general riding, and if your being lifted out of the buggy in general riding then your flying over powered or in dangerous conditions. apart from jumping a buggy there is, imho no need what so ever and to suggest such, especialy to newcomers to the sport is just wrong and dagerous. Quote
Icarus Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 i could do 2 wheels.360s both ways and ride backwards b4 i thought about a seat belt or harness please don't try and jump the rad buggy it just wont take it! Quote
Guest appo Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 there speaks a man of experience http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM65h6aEusY&feature=related Quote
andyst Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 If you want a harness buy a hook spreader bar type seat harness - make sure can nail all of the ground tricks with out thinking about it before going for a captive system - then get used to that system before belting yourself in. Practising two wheels will give you experience in coming out of the buggy but its alot scarier when belted in. I learnt all the ground tricks first and i did not belt myself in for 18 months. Safe flying Quote
grant965 Posted July 18, 2008 Author Report Posted July 18, 2008 what kind of ground tricks can u do? n how do u do them? Quote
GrolschUK Posted July 18, 2008 Report Posted July 18, 2008 Fowards, Backwards, 180's, 360's, 2 wheels on both sides, 2 wheels going backwards, 2 wheels into a 180, and other combos of the above... As when you land, you have no idea which way you will be facing, or which wheels will make contact with the ground. Quote
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