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    Flexifoil Sabre 9.5M

    I must admit that i personnal think Flexifoil are over-rated. Read my post about the Bullet. So why did i buy another Flexi product. They got the buggy right and with a new price of £535 i as suckered into buying a Sabre 9.5 Had to sell my Sammy 5.0 to get the extra cash so it had better be a fantastic kite.

    A little background into my de-power experiance, i also fly LEI, Wipika core and Cabrihan Nitro. So on with the review.

    SETUP
    Lines colour coded, easy to attach.

    SAFETY
    Primary and secandary release systems. Easy to find and pull.

    KITE
    What can i say, seem what you would expect for the money. Good materials and construction. Added benifits of side velcro to empty out sand and other stuff that get's in from the open leading edge. The leading edge is open pritty much all the way the edge's. Didn't like the graphics to start with, but there growing on me.

    BAR
    (I buggy and Landboard). Bar seems too long for the kite size, the inserts play havoc with my grip, and i was let down by another Flexi quality control problem....the power cleat had a hole in it. Told my dealer, and after a few days wait(6), got a new cleat that i had to fit myself. So i pay £535 and have to repair a brand new kite myself...Flexi wanna sack ALL there QA team and hire monkeys. This bar has become the standard fit across the Flexi de-power range. Commanality of parts shows a company with serious cost issues. Making one bar fit the whole range is gonna throw up problems, and for me it just seems too long.

    BAG
    Still feel its too small. If your packing away in nice calm condition and can get the kite down to that all important bag filling size...well thats just great, but in the real world when your just happy to get your pride and joy packed into anything that will hold it, a few extra inches wouldnt go a-miss.

    IN THE AIR
    Absolutly fantastic. Its gotta have the biggest de-power range of any kite i've ever used. Was playing with it today in my buggy in 5mph winds. Making good speed and cracking power slides. Lift-oh-plenty, turns have to be well timed in a buggy or you will end up in the air. On a board jumps are very floaty, with a very good fleel of when your gonna head upwards. Did i mention the de-power range at the bar?! It real is good.

    The cross over kit is now fitted standard(as opposed to Blade's) which improves the turn rate, but the bridal system is compicated. There are pully's plus the cross-over kite, i hope after the sea and sand getts to it they dont start creaking.

    RE-LAUNCH (when upside down)
    Simply pull on the 'landing' line attachment and it flips over without any fuss.

    FINAL THOUGHTS!
    The bar is crap and it only comes in two colour options. The bag is too small and the bridal system is compicated, BUT the results are fantastic. This is my new best toy, I can put up with the bar being too long and the bag being too small because the kite makes me happy. The de-power range is fantastic. Power can be scrubed off easily and the safety systems are top rate. The turn rate is about normal for a kite of its size, lift is very floaty and progressive. I've never had a problen with the tips folding in and landing it is a easy.

    Cap in had, Flexi have done a great job on the Sabre. Now the prices are coming down i see loads of Frenzy's for sale on the Flexi forum...I wounder why?!

    I would recommend this kite to anyone above beginner, this cover kite ranges from 4-9 depending on your lardy ass.

    By : Husky_joe

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    tyeaiden1600949553

    Posted

    Well all i can say is i that i have all the sabres because i had the 9.5 first then after i flew it for a few weeks i just had to fetch the other two.But i must admit the bag is abit small.The bar comes in to sizes.And it wouldent ov hurt for flex to have 3 colours as they have 3 sizes.But as for the kites no probs at all they fly nice as sead above its the only kite that i feel safe with even in hi winds as the kite gives you time to do as you like.Had the 7.0m up in 33 mph the 9.5m up in 27 and yet to have the 11.5m up in hi winds going to try to put it up in 20 to 25 well hoping any way.Put it this way ave got my buggy in the air at last and love it.So all iam saying is if you want to feel safe with a big kite try a sabre its good fun c u later keith

    Jerry1600949551

    Posted

    A few thoughts on this review, but this one in particular: 'Commanality of parts shows a company with serious cost issues'. Please explain.

    ArcAngel

    Posted

    What is 'crap' about the bar? I am very happy with mine, although the line grips on the ends could be slightly deeper. The bar is shorter for the 7m version by the way, and afaik, Flexi's other depowerables (their LEI range) use a completely different bar.

    Husky_joe1600949552

    Posted

    The bar is the standard fit on all flexi de-power kites for 2005. Comminality of parts, it cheaper to make one bar to fit all models than it would be to create a bar for every kite. I've used a strike2(11,15) and the firestrom(15,18.5), same bar. The Stike like inserts into the bar seem to be rolling off.

    Jerry1600949551

    Posted

    Well if you consider common parts to be a bad thing you're in for further disapointment. Modern 'Engineering' of production techniques show that 'standardisation' is a re kindled key factor to controlling costs from all directions. It means simpler ordering, quality control, production and after sales procedures and controls which manifests itself as better products at reduced cost for the customer. You'll find a number of standardised parts on most kites simply because the demand for competitively priced product is enormous, and you put across yourself that it was the price that attracted you to, or in your words 'suckered into', the kite yet you're complaining about part of the means that allowed Flexifoil to make this possible. Stating that the Flexifoil have 'serious cost issues' in the manner in which you have implies a negative thing, it's not. Well done Flexifoil for demonstrating a modern and wholly appropriate manufacturing tool for reducing the cost to you!

    Husky_joe1600949552

    Posted

    I did have a huge post about how comminality of parts is not a good thing for the consumer. I've work in motor manufacturing for 13 years, its great for the producer, cost down...but this leads to problems for us. Quality of parts driven by cost is always gonna be shabby. Okay cloth and lines can be used across the board, but control gear is specific to one product.. I dont want flexi to be driven by cost. Quality will always get more custom. As for the price. Yes i bought it

    ArcAngel

    Posted

    The Strike and Firestorm use the shorter CBX50 bar (50cm), the Sabres use a 55cm and 65cm bar for the different sizes, which have a different leash setup to- there is NOT oen bar for all the kites. They AREsimilar designs and use most of the same parts- but on an item like this, is it a bad thing? Not really in my opinion....

    justmax

    Posted

    this is a kite i would really like to get my paws on it sounds like the kind of kite that goes well with with a buggy ( owner say that 9 out 10 buggies prefer them according to other reviews) and as im quite new to buggying and have seen a couple of the sabres they not only look good but seem to be the business in all kinds of conditions so thank you for a great review

    Guest Rich Newflyer

    Posted

    andy161uk - it would appear that you have logged on to the wrong forum!

    Guest MarcP

    Posted

    I have one and think the bar is spot on, the 7m has a shorter bar which i'm not too keen on. I find the bag is perfectly big enough, I do admitt I've only flown once so far in high winds. Not too sure about using it in a buggy, but I have seen people doing it. A great kite and not a bad review.

    be as the cloud

    Posted

    The bars will never be for one for all kites as the safety is COMPLETLY different Hence if you to have LEI's and foils you spend most of the time meesing about with the safety and hence why they dont do it.

    redwine

    Posted

    Comtemplating either the sabre or the flysurfer cool, as you've flown both whats your thoughts ?. (It's either the 9M Cool or 9.5M Sabre).

    Perry1600949558

    Posted

    I love my 7 and 9.5 sabre, got to agree about the size of the bag! Unless the kite is rolled up nice and neat, it just doesn't fit! I fly in a Parastorm Typhoon and don't find the bar on either a problem. People seem to be put off by the bridles, my tip is don't mess with them. Unwind your lines and stake down, unpack the kite and just shake the kite gently all of the bridles untangle, jobs a good un!

    mook

    Posted

    You are the first person to write a review that is slightly negative. Im thinking of buying a 7m...Still going for it as it looks an awesome kite. cheers

    1boardy

    Posted

    I want to get my big arse of the ground and float. I want a kite that will pull me in all conditions and I cant afford more than one. I have a 3m Blade 2 and struggle to get of the ground in less than 20mph then it drops me like a stone. Im trying to learn to land board and there is not enough power. Should I buy a 9.5m or a 11.5m somebody tell me.

    ArcAngel

    Posted

    It would fly, but if you crash a Sabre on water it'll fill up and sink as the cells are open, giving you a nice sea anchor - not reccomened! :(

    BoonDock Saint

    Posted

    OK, I bought a 9.5 Sabre, that everyone loves...not I fly mostly fixed bridle kites and going to a depower you do gain wind range but loose out on control and definitely speed. IMHO I will stick to fixed bridles alas a Sabre for sale.... Cheers



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