woodsy

woodsy's are obviousl natural kiteboarders..... different chap i'm afraid by about 200 miles! flx could be the one by the sounds of things. problem is i love the JP but i just wonder if the grass could be greener at the bottom end....

anyone have any suggestions for one board to suit my 11m sonic? i ride a 2004 jaime pro 127x37 at the mo, but i reckon that something that gets going early and can still be held down when really lively would be better. maybe 130ish in length by 38-39? in fact i want the board equivalent of a bow if you know what i mean! have seen a 132 underground flx - any good? 85 kgs intermediate. cheers

fair point! i think a demo is an absolute must. just for the record, and my credibility, i can get to weston in the evening in the summer months. so only a weekend warrior during the winter! hence why the 16m gets the most use. cheers for your opinions. i'm not sure i have got any further, but a test flight it seems is the only way forward. woods

excellent, i shall mug him next time i am there! npeac - i was thinking exactly the same thing, but i approach differently in that i like to ride only one board, my 128. so i have a 16/12/9 at the mo. i virtually never sail the 9 as i work a 9 to 5 and am therefore a "weekend warrior"! ideally i would one bow to cover the 12 and 16 but am nervous that the 14 will not suffice from a bottom end point of view as i use the 16m more than anything. i could then keep the 9 for the days that are howling. alternatively, keep the 16 and buy a bow 11 to cover the 12 and 9 which i am sure it would. but then i use the 16 most so would feel like a waste of money! anyway, balls to this. i clearly think too much whilst at work. easterlies this weekend so off to the south coast. anyone in south devon got one of these i could have a butchers at?

have been reading this and other threads with interest. sorry to flog this point, but it seems to me that someone is talking arse. unfortunately i don't know who. is a 12(ish) bow kite a one kite quivver? colin seems to think that it is all hype and that his 12 is no more grunty than his normal 12. sunset thinks his 15 doesn't get fun until around 12 knots. airjam seem to think that 12-30 knots is realistic. shem seems to think that 12-30 knots is realistic. of course the latter two are sailing a sonic rather than a nova but the difference is surely minimal. what's going on chaps? do you mean you might be able to get out of the water in 12 knots with a surf board or do you mean that you can actually kitesurf, as in go upwind and jump? if the former then it is NOT a one kite quivver. a C shape 16 would have you upwind and jumping in that wind on any board. i get the impression that in this coutry a 14/15 bow would sort a 13 stone male for 90% wind ie everything other than howling. the 11/12 would leave you underpowered in what we all sail in often 12-15 knots. correct? i can't try one as no one has them at weston super mare before you ask.

from reading various threads i reckon a 16/9 quivver would be mint. i would rather spend so that i am comfortable when its howling and not having to work it in the light stuff. haven't actually sailed one so maybe one is sufficient but i will stick with my 9/12/16 C kite combo until these bows get cheaper in a few seasons i reckon. also, i have sailed plenty of newer arcs. whilst the arcs are good and do depower more than C kites, i would be dissapointed if the bow kites only depower as much as they do. no way would you have a one kite quivver if that's the case. not starting a fight, just a comment.

but to confirm, you reckon you would need two right?

i'm wounded! drove straight past porthcawl and on to swansea bay on saturday. was 16m weather at swansea but i had never sailed there before and discovered that when the tide is pushing in its quite hard to get upwind unless well powered. unfortunately i got there at low tide so it was a bit of pain all afternoon until the tide settled....... and then i had to go home. bugger! i thought coney was a flat water spot too. also, can you sail on all states of tide? cheers

....???? what happens in tarifa in november? any wind? if not tarifa then where? needs to be europe on price basis! anyone got a good recommendation for that time of year. by good recommendation i mean guaranteed wind (if there is such a thing!) any help well appreciated. cheers

"extreme" depends upon your interpretation, because for me a kite loop on water, although more powered, will never be as "extreme" as a kite loop on land because if it goes wrong on land you are absolutely screwed. as for ali b: he is just making the point that on his definition of "extreme" you can't be as extreme on land and do proper powered loops. i don't think anone would disagree on his definition of extreme. i used to land board but gave up as it scares the poo poo out of me whereas water doesn't..... those who kite loop at any time: respect. as for vari: he got big spuds.

mine snapped earlier in the year. i would have thought that your local shop will sort you a new one for around a tenner. bristol kite store sorted mine, but powerkiteshop certainly do a universal one.

in fact feedback on any of these flat things would be good. i have heard loads of different opinions...... some really bad. actually i should demo them i guess. my main issue is the safety..... i want to be able to let go of the bar and it not fall out of the sky! in high wind you would want the bar to sit on the stopper sheeted out as much as possible without having to hold on tight wouldn't you? it seems too safe to be practical or have i got the wrong end of the stick?

i believe the ozzy's prefer the expression "fag flags" for kites. i think that npeac was right..... surely this thread is about the ebay equipped suicide mob rather than newbs. i tried my first "board on" this weekend in attempt to show off to my girlfriend. didn't go too well...... landed in one inch of water on my arse. but just imagine how beautiful i would have become had i landed it? eveyone show's off sometimes..... for example some people who clearly are suffering form a self security complex decide to post pictures of themselves doing kiteloops. its not arrogance. its just that it adds to the rush of kiting.

he's quite good isn't he.

mate definitely use one before you buy if you are going to cross over. the g13 will be v different to your 13 fuel. the g will not be as good for ksurfing as the fuel. turns slower, the bottom end is pony and not as good upwind as sits deeper in the window. advantages are super stable - ideal for inland and auto zenith.... frankly i saw this as no benefit whatsoever when learning on my g but that's obviouslty because i was a kiting god. arcs are wicked in land, the best i have used as they feel safe in comparison with the speed and agression of lei's. seriously, i loved my g13 and it did me proud however i have sacked it off in favour of lei kites. the reason being that i don't do land stuff anymore. a true crossover kite would be a venom which turns on a sixpence and seems yo have a better low end (although i have only ever personally used one in good wind). apparently these flysurfers are good too but render you bankrupt. try before you fly is the motto here.