Guess they speak for themselves
http://webdisk.berkeley.edu/dav_53d2d5c6_oq8psgiqe1/PICT0021.JPG
also at
http://storage.msn.com/x1pGg9EMswqL-_lumBTnVoRF1uTVQaP_WMLfLnuLA6h_5V8tqM-H-R1RTiPtVLmjYdg7EVUGaP9tmiTbThmXJHB99dsg4tgSdAmofh-yI8EUbXykWN0v1zvbA
http://webdisk.berkeley.edu/dav_53d2d5c6_oq8psgiqe1/DSCN2164.JPG
also at
http://storage.msn.com/x1pGg9EMswqL-_lumBTnVoRF1uTVQaP_WMLfLnuLA6h_5VYgZ9OG545crhiunq8Gp9hsKUsHgRF8TSHSSjeNp3kw__zCoWdqGZ_aKF4pnjikrE0wQzX4W7nug
These were both at a beach North of Bodega Bay, California, Called Salmon Creek Beach. We're Flying a 7.8 in some decent winds.
later