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Hi Stu, Only at the end when I collected Graham Wass' prize for him as he had to return home to his sick wife and children. Otherwise I'm not in it at all. The stars are the pilots. Troy www.buggymania.co.uk

Mainly centred on the UK team the film shows plenty of buggy action throughout the week with close ups of many pilots as well as some nice panoramic views of the whole fleet. There's a complete listing of all pilots finishing with names/photos and points/places of every entrant, including young Dan Brazier who finished above some of the higher ranking UK pilots. Enjoy!

During November 2003 the top 10 UK pilots took on the rest of Europe in the European Kite Buggy Championships. Exclusive coverage of the event and the UK team is now available on DVD, visit... http://www.buggymania.co.uk ...to order you copy. Troy

Agger, We're all expecting you to show up at Westward Ho! at the weekend...? Troy

Mick Parsons is currently negotiating access to Pembrey The PKA comitee want to ensure that racing is organised this year Me plus a few others want to see blanket access to all locations by the summer Don't know how many members there are but I'm providing a work around for this The EGM was called by the secretary and he's the secretary and he decides where these things are - he's stepping down If yo don't join then your insurance is valid so long as you have access - that's not the point though as you will need as a minimum of associate memberhsip to use any site with a club in power by the end of the season Don't know about Lytham, we're working up a support group and looking for feedback before I go to the PKA with proposals Over the winter the PKA secured access to the same number of locations that the BBC did i.e. none - that's why I'm doing this, becasue with the help of a few others, includign yourself if you want in, we're going to make sure we get what we want. We're doing it by doing it though rather than just talking about it. That's the difference If you want to help contact me offline tvinson@hotmail.com 07939 021205

There's a concensus on ATB. Anything else? Publicity Safety Insurance Other types of events Sponsorship Licensing Information availability Cmon guys, give us soem more ideas...mail your friends and ask them too???

That's exactly what the thread is about. Increasing the scope of activities and service offered by the PKA. ATB testing will be on the agenda and sure as I'm represented here in a textual way, if the PKA don;t want to hear about it then we'll be looking to the BBC. We've now got sufficient people power and backing in principal to push for all of these things. What else do people want to see?

There is a class system in place that covers land yachts - mtbs. A great deal of effort has gone into setting this lot up already, no need to change it because it can and does work. The matters of local/national/international representation are up for consideration and change...and the best (current) way to force some change is though the crumbling PKA. IT can be rebuilt to have a wider scope and offer real benefits to it's membership, rather than just organising races. How about "Pembrey summer MTB freestylin event" We had a show of 50 last year for an unorganised event that took some organisation and it was good. We want to do it again, and I'm sure you do too. We're also working on the information thing and making the sport visible to participants by improving communication.

Land access may become a problem for you sooner than you think, if it does hooly then drop me a line and see if I got it sorted for you.

Class 7 requires representation and should be combined into class 8 in terms of events and administration. Competence with class 8 machines is demonstrable through taking a class 8 test. The same should apply to class 7, albeit to a different formula. Staged or incremental testing will go some way to assure local clubs that teh associate membership requested by an outsider/organisation will be executed in a proficient way. If I turn up at a real nice club with great beach and I am able to demonstrate that I have achieved a basic level of competence then the club surely won't have a problem with my associate membership, this has previously been called day sailing under a different set of agreements that the LYA have. Boarders need to be affiliated with the FED to get in on the back this. I just like to reiterate that there is no point in building a new organisation and we are using the PKA as a vehicle to achieve a goal, as it is in a stae of dissarray and therefore offers itself as a prime opportunity to embrace change. If the BBC were in a similar situation then we could use that, however, it isn't so we can't. A great deal of good will come from this, but it will require work. Who has some work to offer?

Sure as hell the boarders are actually class 7 lad yachts...and are covered under the same rules as the speed sails. Chriss Moore from Wind and Wheels will kick me if I'm wrong! I say that the class 7 gang can't race cos boards ain't fast, they're groovy and built for freestylin...so...we get a non-competitive event sorted out at Pembrey for them through an associate membership to the local club there and hey presto you get an airing! Having spoken to the yocal who's getting access to Pembrey sorted it's unlikley that an associate membership will be available through the BBC since the BBC offer no method of certification for their members, i.e. the BBC can't say that a member is competent or safe - it's the current climate that brings this on - not me! I've so far received loads of positive feedback from participant acrosss the UK and with Mark's help and the help of others this will be compiled and presented, and feedback will be given. As far as the membership.administration thing is concerned, John Cherry is looking at the problem and solving it with an online interactive resource where you guys will be able to register interest and get loads of info about clubs across the UK. However, this all takes time. Are you in or out?

I'm not in the current camp of the PKA and I don't race. However, in order to continuously improve the equipment available to the sport and its participants there is a need for racing. Racing provides inovation, everyday users provide revenue, equipment improves and filters through to the general user. The current BBC position, as far as I can see from their advertising, is that no further action is being taken until the sport is classified as a national sport. The BBC predict re-opening negotiation early next year. I'm planning to pull some friends and acquaintences together in order to make soem positive moves in the kite worls for all users. I hope to pull this off with the help of the community at large. There's plenty of resistance to change in the PKA already, no further resistance is required. What is required is positive action and encouragement from the community. There is a meetign at Weston Super Mare on March 8th at 7pm, come on down if you're genuinely interested in securing safe and insured land access.

Thanks, I appreciate the sentiment, please consider teh 2 questions below: 1. Can you tell me which sites the BBC has secured access to on behalf of the membership? 2. What schemes do the BBC have for assessing competence in buggy pilots Without 1 the value of the BBC is for insurance only With 2, it is more likely that clubs would allow associate membership through affiliation.

Link, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kitebuggy/

Hi, I'm not sure how many of you are aware that it will be unlikely that Pembrey will be a feasible location this summer. There are a number of reasons for this although generally it's one of land access that will put the dampers on such unorganised weekends as we had last year and the year before. To rectify this I'm putting a proposal together with the help of a few others and taking it to the PKA EGM at Weston Super Mare on Sat 8th March 7pm. There will be a number of issues being raised. In brief they are: 1.Improve the services on offer 2.Increase membership base 3.Increase the scope of the service 4.Build valuable trusting relationships with local councils 5.Maintain valuable relationships with clubs at all levels 6.Increasing revenue for the Land yacht association 7.Make fundamental changes in administration and operation These ponts will be relevant to the following: 1.Racing and competitive events 2.Non competitive events 3.Recreational participation 4.Training I'm now collecting as much information from buggiers and kite boarders across the UK in order to make a valid case to the PKA. To help with this task, a poll has been put up at the yahoo Kitebuggy forum. I'd really appreciate it if you guys and gals would take time out to look at the poll there and answer as many questions as you see fit. It's gonna be a big job to pull off buth there is hope that the PKA can repair it's poor public image and do soem real good for the people that count. Thank you Troy