jellis

I apologize if this thread got out of hand and if I upset anyone. No excuses just the old man syndrome. I use one Libre Hardcore XS with 150 or 160 axle depending on the conditions with a 3" drop down stem with adjustable fork rake device, cnc billet al rims and switch between a suspension fork and standard fork. I use 40lb of weight attachments for this buggy at times. The second Hardcore XS has the 150 axle with 3" rail extensions, 9" drop down stem made from 3"x1 1/2" tubing, using the Libre front suspension fork, moonlight tires, extra cross brace on the rails, drop down plates at rear of the rails and both buggies use the camber and caster axle adjustment devices. I use the extra small Hardcores because of the rails, as they are wide in the front and narrow down at the top of the sides where it gives me a snug but comfortable seat. I also drop the seat down until the back side strap is at the end and it is as low in the rails as it can go. I also like using a seat belt that makes jumping off stuff in the bigfoot a lot more fun. I realize there are some great custom made buggies out there but for the price point and availability in the States I chose the Hardcore. I fly Libre Vampir Race Pro 2.4 thru 6.6 meter and JoJo RM+ 2 thru 16 meter using power handles I developed. I do enjoy Jon's BUGGYBAG products, wish I had some of those RC Guards. At my age of 62, Eli, Bison, Big John and Luk still see me as a threat. If Jason Furness is still around tell him his old Hi 100 I got from him when he was he at one of the world cups in the mid 90s, was passed down to a deserving buggier some time ago and I still see it from time to time. Hey Burgy and Gram come back and race with Big John and us again sometime as we sure enjoyed your company. Best Regards Jon Ellis

Ok you bunch of queens don't get you crumpets bunched up. What a sensitive bunch of product bashing ******s. By the way how are the Falkland Islands doing now days?

redbull is better for you anyway, it has wings jellis

LMAO jellis

Why would I have to explain anything to a tea eating tosser jellis

Hey Hopewell Just wondering how you knew so much about what Libre will do? jellis

Hi .Joel since when did buggy manufacturers make buggies for tree ramming? Maybe you could get one of each (lynn, flexi, xx, libre, etc etc) model and tree test them for us? That makes as much sense as 19 year old Hopewell does.... LMAO jellis

Hey joel since when did buggy manufacturer's start making buggies for tree ramming? Lynns, Flexi's, xxracers, etc etc could be tested for tree crashes also. Why don't you buy one of each and test them for us? It makes as much sence as 19 year old hopewell does. jellis

Aids, let me get this staight, you say yaks are fast and the pilots that fly them are brainless? Besides doesn't YAK sound like what a cat does when he hacks up a hair ball? jellis the yanks are coming, so move out of the way......................................

Why Simon you are quite welcome for the tip as by your comment I knew you were at a loss. I believe the same people flying the yaks were on the Libre team before they were handsomely paid to fly the excuses (yaks) and even then, I heard they rebrided the foils and told everyone they were factory set-ups, so the foil you bought was not the same foil they flew. It sounds like your foils do not come tuned very well either if you have to rebridle them. Chris b when will you get into Las Vegas for NABX so you can see what JoJo's do in my hands........ Burgy, Yes we are still fly the JoJo & Libre flags because I haven't seen any speeds faster than 72.8 mph yet. LOL Luk has bigger cahonas than we do so he will hang on to that speed record for a while I guess. We have been using the new pulley handles with great success, better upwind and quicker turning etc etc. We sure had a great time when you guys came over to NABX, but you never came back. Was it something Eli said? LOL Take care and hopefully we will see you at the worlds cup this year. jellis PS all in fun boys.......................................................

Simon I am eagerly awaiting your arrival and have my stock factory JoJoRM+'s ready. Upwind or down, broad reach or beam reach. I really don't want your kites when you lose to the great upwind performance and the exceptional fast deep beams of the JoJo RM+ with the greatest stability. If you are concerned about initial speed at the start try moving the foil to generate power? jellis