Thanks guys i fly on the recreation field sometimes get a foot ball match on sundays but genrally its fairly clear. ive got a rad 6.0 and 3.0 the 3.0 is just abit to quick for the buggy especially is its windy so i tend to use the 6.0 usally i think the main problem is that there is trees on 2 sides of the field and the building on the other there is only about 2 good patches were wind can get in with out dieing. thanks again more advice is welcome