reduce the pressure

[kiteingcolin]

I might sound like a wimp saying this but if there is one thing that can really spoil a good windy wavy day it’s BAR PRESURE

Its even worse on a bumpy sea with chop and swell as your arms need to be fresh and alive to cope with the quick trimming that needs to be done, if your arms are numb and sore then you loose control so easily, so you have to raise your kite and slow down swinging arms around like a monkey to get some feeling back,

The new stoppers on the power lines and north’s mini loop are useless on big seas or strong gusty winds as you end up being a puppet on a string out of control with legs about to burst,

And if you sail regularly with big bar pressure then you get a constant horrible pain that really spoils the game, (like tennis elbow I suppose)

You only really know how heavy bar pressure can effect your sailing when you try a “light bar” and you can sail on one tack forever, your legs giving in first

I know two kiters who have used two different 07 kites and complained about the killer bar pressure, (both guys eat 3 Weetabix)

I vote for lighter bar pressure, (not that light that the kite disappears if your not looking at it)

It is worrying that two major brands have 07 kites that are so" bar heavy "

[s29feb]

Gloves don't help but no one should be in gloves now?

 

Noticed it on 06 Naish Shockwave which was supposed to be really heavy on the bar but not too much of a problem - work on those chin ups the weetabix are not magic

[paulie_amoose]

Only the weak complain about bar pressure.....

[Kite Kid]

yea if only u had a c

[madadz]

3 weetabix won't do squat! It's supposed to be Shredded wheat! try switching over and see if that helps...

[madmarkymark]

I was out in Tarifa over Easter and was suffering from the 'kiting elbow' syndrome. I thought it was just me being week - but it would appear that there are others who are suffering ...

 

Anyone else experienced 'kiting elbow' ??

 

Fly safe - Madmarkymark

[CoyoteBoy]

I used to like heavy bar pressure when I was learning, My Cs and arcs provided that well - but now I'm happier with a light bar pressure, though it does take getting used to - before I could use the bar to "steady" myself in freaky conditions, now "steadying" ends in all sorts of kite movements and problems lol. Still, i think it teaches good technique.

[Steiner]

35 mins on a rowing machine everyday, bar pressure then becomes a matter of preference and not of endurance.

[kevob]

i thought bar pressure on the elbows was from standing proppng it up all night

[Bob Monkhouse]

Colin, You should try the new 07 Ozone Instincts if you haven't already.

The bar pressure is very light.

In fact too light for me, I've been pulling the back lines in a bit up until now but am going to try and get used to it lighter.

 

The rear line adjusters at the bar ends allow you to do this on the fly

 

chris@surface-tension.co.uk (uk dist) should be able to sort you out with a demo in NW

[CoyoteBoy]

35 mins on a rowing machine everyday, bar pressure then becomes a matter of preference and not of endurance.

 

Certainly helps to do this, but whats the point? You're basically building up your arms to cope with bar pressure - whereas those with light-bar kites dont have to waste 35 minutes a day!

[paulie_amoose]

It's a subjective thing, I personaly like posistive bar pressure. When I first started flying Rebel's I found I was getting "kiters elbow" after a couple of hours but after 3-4 sessions this was gone. I can now ride indefiniately without any problem's, I do do some weights though, although not purely for kiteing.

 

I tried a Blade Vertigo not long ago, this had loads less bar pressure than the Rebel, I had to keep looking at the kite and was consistantly over directing when jumping.

 

I now have Ozone's, but yet to have a proper session. I know they have light bar pressure so I'll have see how I get on

 

Bar pressure is like woman, chunky or light.. It's all good..

[CoyoteBoy]

Bar pressure is like woman, chunky or light.. It's all good..

 

[Steiner]

35 mins on a rowing machine everyday, bar pressure then becomes a matter of preference and not of endurance.

 

Certainly helps to do this, but whats the point? You're basically building up your arms to cope with bar pressure - whereas those with light-bar kites dont have to waste 35 minutes a day!

 

Builds up strength in arms, shoulders abs, lats, lower back. Also seriously builds fitness, and endurance and energy levels.

 

More fitness and endurance = spend longer on the water = more fun = more smiles.

 

Plus you can shed a few pounds = boost higher!

 

Also if you have better fitness, and endurance then you are in better shape to cope if the **** hits the fan! => safer kiting!

[CoyoteBoy]

I'm assuming most people have a fairly decent level of fitness and strength, since it takes that to kite to any reasonable level, but i know where your'e coming from.

 

I've taken to riding 100 miles a week and the difference in fitness and energy is amazing, makes a noticable difference when you get on the water too.

 

I dont find I use my upper body at all when kiting, it never feels stressed unlike my legs. Stomach does to some extent if its been a while.

[elgordo]

We have an 11m Ozone Sport on demo at Ainsdale,it is with Nick

Chris

[paulie_amoose]

 

More fitness and endurance = spend longer on the water = more fun = more smiles.

 

Totally agree, I run 3 times a week, do weights ect and it really really helps. A decent level of fitness and bar pressure is not an issue.

 

Also helps massively once you start to unhook...

[andysurferdude]

Yeah a few years back I spent all day working a 15m airush lift in light winds, 2 days later the tennis elbow kicked in and didnt leave me for 18months - not pleasant !

 

No problems these days with the superlight bar pressure of Waroos

[doc]

yep, i agree. i like some bar pressure and i like to work out a bitas it were. But as u get older then the kite choice in terms of bar pressure has to reflect that.

 

Simply put though given equivalent kites then they pull u along at the same tensional force.

 

So a lighter bar pressure simply transfers more "tension" to th frontlines whereas a heavy bar has more on the backend so to speak -or is it the other way around - nevermind u cath my drift.

 

 

So its the distribution of forces out there.

 

There are light bar pressure kites

 

nova2 comes to mind - ooooh expensive but flawless quality

 

and the new kiddie on the block

 

bladekite vertigo -ooooooh - and cheap as chips too.

 

Waroo's are not the heaviest but nor are they the lightest. In fact the 14m can be downright hard work on times.

 

Still its a good workout after a month of no puff - i'm like spongebob at the mo.

[sw1]

going from a ozone 06 to my mates 07 rhino was hell

 

im just not macho enuff for the bar pressure, instinct that day i was able to unhook 1 hand (wasnt windy) rhino i unhooked and got me arms yanked....

 

but i'd still say its a good kite, just i prefer a managable style more worring about my riding less about the kite haulin my ass!